NEED FEEDBACK - Getting started IV dope

[tommy_407]

I've been using dope for about 2 years. First year was once every 2 week, once a week, then this past November through March was every day. I've kicked cold turkey 7 times. I've been successfully chipping now since March. Once a week, twice a week, 3x etc

I work out like a fiend, I take SUST 350 and have had a 7 years and counting RX for Adderall - incase you're wondering how I don't get bad withdrawals now that I'm chipping like I am.

I'm becoming fed up with Chicago heroine. Really it's nothing compared to the small amount of money I had to spend in NY/NJ to nod out for hours. It costs so much more here for lower quality.

I've been hellbent on trying I.V. Don't ask me why. I'm also at the point where relatively soon I'm going to stop for at least a while. Yesterday I filled up a 25g needle 3cc with a dime of powder and started poking. Couldn't get the vein and I contemplated doing the big one on my elbow - but that needle is big as its been used for steroids and I sterylyzed it and it's a bit dull, so I pussied out and plugged it which I completely screwed up and wasted it.

I feel like I won't be satisfied until I bang. I know I won't be ready to stop until I bang. Is it that much better? what does it feel like? If I miss will I still feel it? And I'm sure many of you will be warning me not to. I just need to discuss this with someone

 

[crazybinc]

Using a IV with dope is a very effective method
And you get the most out of it. When the user can't get
That 'first hit' feeling anymore or has built a tolerance
Which is very common with the 'frequent user' the
IV is usually a fiends last option due to the many risk
Factors and health factors. It feels like the first time
'Rush' again. But 10x stronger. And 100x faster. You
Get the rush shooting there your vein of choice coursing through your body. The reason people
Get so addicted to this method is for a different better
Feeling 'for most' but of course a better feeling, more
Conservative, way stronger, faster high comes with a price. Tracks, collapsed veins, stroke,heart attack,sudden death, or you simply miss causing
Very bad side effects. Or you decide to share with your
Buddy or a random junkie being desprite
And not caring. Even tho they swear to be clean
From any STD. You risk it and get
HIV or any other many diseases. Some that lab
Tests won't even detect for a very
long time...what I'm trying to say which I'm sure
You know. All great things come with a price.
Seems the greater the thing, the more consequences.
Anyway to your 'if I miss will I still feel it' of
Corse! Very much and very painful and
Very noticeable and very unhealthy and will need
Medical attention very quick to reduce lots of
Bad out comes. Thats why most users
Once they have reach what they believe is
There targeted vein, slowly pull back and
See blood rush inside to verify. Then plunge
Away. Another thing you need to rember
Is air bubbles. You need to get ANY air
Out of your device. If you forget and a tiny air
Bubble gets in your veins it could lead to
Either stroke,heart attack, SDS (Sudden death syndrome) mental retardation by interrupting
The brains blood functions, heart problems.
Or if your very lucky and this happens
Rare. Either it could do barley anything and
Go into a less important priority part
Of the body and not do much damage.
Or cause harm slowly and slow enough
Go get to a hospital for professional care.
Once you bang its hard to quit honestly.
More so then regular. So I hope (doing whatever your going to do) you really have read what I took
My time to write very accurately and cafully.
To either let it be and decide maybe banging
It won't benefit your life and could honestly
Be the thing that kills you or ruins your life.
Or if you do decide, be very careful. Use good
Judgment. And take some safety seriously.
After all it's only your one and only life as
We know. (PS: not trying to lecture you about
Safety, rather inform you. This method of
Administration is very serious due to
All the risks. A new time user might
Not know all this of corse and might
Just save or help someone)
Hope I helped. I would love feed back
On my answer. I know its long but
What do you think gave me the energy to
Right this all (;

 

[pbuilder]

Using a IV with dope is a very effective method
And you get the most out of it. When the user can't get
That 'first hit' feeling anymore or has built a tolerance
Which is very common with the 'frequent user' the
IV is usually a fiends last option due to the many risk
Factors and health factors. It feels like the first time
'Rush' again. But 10x stronger. And 100x faster. You
Get the rush shooting there your vein of choice coursing through your body. The reason people
Get so addicted to this method is for a different better
Feeling 'for most' but of course a better feeling, more
Conservative, way stronger, faster high comes with a price. Tracks, collapsed veins, stroke,heart attack,sudden death, or you simply miss causing
Very bad side effects. Or you decide to share with your
Buddy or a random junkie being desprite
And not caring. Even tho they swear to be clean
From any STD. You risk it and get
HIV or any other many diseases. Some that lab
Tests won't even detect for a very
long time...what I'm trying to say which I'm sure
You know. All great things come with a price.
Seems the greater the thing, the more consequences.
Anyway to your 'if I miss will I still feel it' of
Corse! Very much and very painful and
Very noticeable and very unhealthy and will need
Medical attention very quick to reduce lots of
Bad out comes. Thats why most users
Once they have reach what they believe is
There targeted vein, slowly pull back and
See blood rush inside to verify. Then plunge
Away. Another thing you need to rember
Is air bubbles. You need to get ANY air
Out of your device. If you forget and a tiny air
Bubble gets in your veins it could lead to
Either stroke,heart attack, SDS (Sudden death syndrome) mental retardation by interrupting
The brains blood functions, heart problems.
Or if your very lucky and this happens
Rare. Either it could do barley anything and
Go into a less important priority part
Of the body and not do much damage.
Or cause harm slowly and slow enough
Go get to a hospital for professional care.
Once you bang its hard to quit honestly.
More so then regular. So I hope (doing whatever your going to do) you really have read what I took
My time to write very accurately and cafully.
To either let it be and decide maybe banging
It won't benefit your life and could honestly
Be the thing that kills you or ruins your life.
Or if you do decide, be very careful. Use good
Judgment. And take some safety seriously.
After all it's only your one and only life as
We know. (PS: not trying to lecture you about
Safety, rather inform you. This method of
Administration is very serious due to
All the risks. A new time user might
Not know all this of corse and might
Just save or help someone)
Hope I helped. I would love feed back
On my answer. I know its long but
What do you think gave me the energy to
Right this all (;

The air bubble thing is a myth and not dangerous.

 

[crazybinc]

Don't know where you got that but you are incorrect.
It's called a, air embolism. I even pulled up a page
With everything about it. I only post info on here that
I know either from swims experience or verified
By professionals with some evidence.

www.healthline.com/health/air-embolism

 

[DarkStarCrashes]

Is there any use trying to plead with you to give up H and consider being on some sort of bupe or methadone maintenance program instead? I have only used a dozen or so times in the last 5 years but prior to that I was a brick (50 bag) a day IV user for a few years. It seems that your mind is made up, but please give some thought to stopping your use of heroin entirely.

With that being said, first you need to go buy some U100 insulin syringes - which hopefully are legal in your area. Before you concern yourself with the proper method to use IV you need to get a source for NEW and CORRECT GAUGE needles first. I prefer 1cc over 1/2cc needles. Look for a consistent source, hopefully a pharmacy, and stock up. Otherwise you are increasing your overall level of risk by using dull, inappropriately sized, or sharing with another IV drug user.

I am not sure what kind of heroin is available to you, but I live in the tri state area you mentioned - and our dope hear is all #4, meaning it dissolves readily in cold water. To prepare the heroin for injection you must add water to the dope and squirt in an adequate amount of water to dissolve it. Stir using the plunger or cap of the needle. After that place in a small piece of cotton from the end of a q-tip, and insert the needle into the cotton and draw it all back.

After that flick the needle and push the plunger up slightly, but a little air in the needle is not as big a risk as most people claim it is - and can actually be helpful for observing the draw of blood into the needle. After the needle is prepared use a tourniquet to tie off your arm several inches above the vein you are trying to hit. Next, wipe down the area with an alcohol swab to prep it for injection. Finding your vein successfully takes some practice, but remember the needle is supposed to be inserted at an angle much closer to parallel with your arm rather than perpendicular to it. Try making the initial point of insertion a little ways off from the vein and slightly and carefully angle into it. While you are doing this you should have drawn back the plunger on the rig so that you can observe when blood comes into it. Once blood begins to readily flow into the needle you will know you are in a vein and begin the process of pushing the plunger down. Be careful to push the plunger slowly, and to be sure you are not missing the vein draw back again about halfway through to insure blood is still flowing into the set. If it is not you will need to try again, which is where an air bubble may be especially helpful since there is already blood in the needle.

Once you have finished your shot you obviously remove the tourniquet right away, and clean the injection site again with an alcohol swab. It is important to use a brand new needle every time and also make sure you dispose of your needles in the safest manner possible. Should you ever choose to reuse the same needle, make sure you thoroughly clean the needle out between uses. Should you ever be stupid enough to share a needle with another junkie, make sure you rinse it out several times with bleach first followed by water.

Also remember what a more powerful ROA IV use is, and start with a dose much smaller than the one that you would from when you were sniffing your dope.

To reiterate the beginning of this post, please reconsider beginning this method of using as well as using at all. No high is worth your life, and heroin claims the lives of even the most experienced and educated drug users. IV heroin ruined my life, landed me in jail and prison, in rehabs, and cost me the relationships of my family and friends alike while bringing me to lows that I never considered possible. The rate which I progressed this downward spiral increased at an exponential rate once I switched to IV use.

Be safe.

 

[DarkStarCrashes]

Don't know where you got that but you are incorrect.
It's called a, air embolism. I even pulled up a page
With everything about it. I only post info on here that
I know either from swims experience or verified
By professionals with some evidence.
www.healthline.com/health/air-embolism

Wrong. Please do more fact checking before you continue to spread false information. From wiki:

"The potential danger of an air embolism is often greatly overestimated by IV users; up to three CCs of air can be injected intravenously without causing complications, and time spent meticulously getting every minute air bubble out of the syringe would often be better spent ensuring clean conditions in general."

There is literally ZERO chance you will ever inject a volume of air even close to 3cc's using any syringe that is commonly used for IV drug use. Especially being that the average size of a syringe ranges from 0.5cc's to 1.0cc's - you would literally need to fill 3 "large sized" syringes with ENTIRELY air and inject them all AND THEN SOME into the veins one after another.

 

[crazybinc]

Thank you for correcting my info. Most of it is through experience. Always read about air embolisms causing
Very bad things to happen. I have always used the iv
Carefully enough to not get much in. (Any I thought till now) I guess it doesn't matter if your getting the dope in. And a quick question. When you use the word dope
And powder. You are referring to china?girl?glass?
Jw because swims done all.and was wondering what your trying to first time slam.

 

[manboychef]

To reiterate the beginning of this post, please reconsider beginning this method of using as well as using at all. No high is worth your life, and heroin claims the lives of even the most experienced and educated drug users. IV heroin ruined my life, landed me in jail and prison, in rehabs, and cost me the relationships of my family and friends alike while bringing me to lows that I never considered possible. The rate which I progressed this downward spiral increased at an exponential rate once I switched to IV use.

This.

Also, do you have a friend that uses IV? It is generally best to have someone show you in person, because they can monitor how much you put in your shot, and make sure you don't experience any complications from missing, or poking yourself over and over.

Above all else be clean when doing it.

You may say that you will only do this once and quit, but believe me, it is very easy to slip into a daily use pattern once you can hit with a needle, and you will use any drugs you can this way.

Take cocaine for instance, its a completely different drug, IVd.
goodluck

 

[MadMike17]

Yes, it is a lot better for the rush and feeling. In the long run your going to start going into some serious withdrawals. It's an intense rush, you feel warm, happy. And if you do a lot it will take your breath away, make your vision blurry, nausous, etc...
If you miss? Yes you will feel it probably after about 20-30 mins. But it will feel like you just taken it orally. And you will usually know when you miss, when pushing it in, watch for your skin to rise. If it does, STOP! And when your in pull the plunger back and if you see blood your in. If it burns, STOP!
If you have any other questions feel free to PM me...

Oh yea, that air bubble thing they're arguing over? I've shot atleast 30 units on many occasions and nothing. Not saying something wont happen but it takes alot of air to hurt you..

Be safe man

 

[manboychef]

Also, switch injection sites frequently so you don't burn your veins out. Heroin is fairly easy on the veins, but the cuts can be bad. Watch out for IV coke and meth. Those will jack your veins right up.

Make sure you read the IV/complications megathread before you do it. The best HR is knowledge.