Need advice on serious opiate withdrawal

[TheGame985]

Hi guys, I was a percocet user for about 2 years off and on. When the percs stopped working and started becoming a little harder to come by, I was struggling to stave off withdrawal and I started using H a little bit. Not longterm, but I did use it for a couple of weeks. I haven't touched pills in a while, but I find myself using 1-3 bags of H per day and now because of reality slapping me in the face financially among other things, I have to get away from the opiates.

I wanted some advice from people who've gone through it before. I've gone through withdrawal in the past from percs. I've been off of them for as long as a month to a month and a half, but that wasn't done with the idea that I'm going to be done with them forever. This time I'm withdrawing with the idea in mind that I'll never be picking up an opiate again in my life. Can anyone give me some advice on some of the things that I can do to take the edge off? I have a horrible home life and it's partly my fault and partly not-my-fault as me and my mother get into these ridiculous fights over the smallest things and that is going to be a huge challenge for me. I just don't want to be a raging lunatic one minute and then the next be so depressed that I can barely move. I understand that lack of energy is going to be a huge problem, so I went to the store and grabbed some vitamin B and some multivitamins. Then I grabbed some reading material on recovery and things like that. I feel like I've done what I know I can do, but now I want to ask some of you guys what you think I can do to help myself with this situation.

As much as I like video games, I find it hard to even enjoy a video game when I'm going through withdrawals. The simplest little things become a pain in the ass to do. I don't have to tell you guys that though, everyone knows withdrawal sucks and that's why I wish I never started doing this stuff, but here I am. Any advice you guys can give me I'll consider and I deeply appreciate, thanks.

 

[lordnate93]

my advice from being in and out of heroin addiction/ 12 step programs for my entire adult life,, go to rehab/detox if you can afford it. and after that try moving into a sober living environment, stopping dope doesnt mean you just stop, for the majority of us dope fiends. you cant do it alone, if u have to buy a half o of bud or somthing and smoke that shit if u cant get into rehab/detox or while waiting possibly. suboxone is a hell of an effective drug as well but i had better luck copping dope 1hr+ from the city then finding suboxone. and lastly go for a 12 step group, its gunna have its ups and down. i didnt think id make it thru today without shooting some dope but so far im still here and still clean. god bless you i have been there and still can feel that hopeless sort of pain feeling that you have, so i have empathy for your situation , best of luck too you my friend

 

[mrflowers00]

NA/AA meetings can be very helpful

 

[TheGame985]

my advice from being in and out of heroin addiction/ 12 step programs for my entire adult life,, go to rehab/detox if you can afford it. and after that try moving into a sober living environment, stopping dope doesnt mean you just stop, for the majority of us dope fiends. you cant do it alone, if u have to buy a half o of bud or somthing and smoke that shit if u cant get into rehab/detox or while waiting possibly. suboxone is a hell of an effective drug as well but i had better luck copping dope 1hr+ from the city then finding suboxone. and lastly go for a 12 step group, its gunna have its ups and down. i didnt think id make it thru today without shooting some dope but so far im still here and still clean. god bless you i have been there and still can feel that hopeless sort of pain feeling that you have, so i have empathy for your situation , best of luck too you my friend

Thank you so much for the kind words. Today was the first half of a day without anything, tomorrow will be the first real day without anything. I'm fully committed and have no choice but to see this through. In the past I have not always felt this way. I always kind of left an "out" for myself in case I got weak and decided I wanted to go buy something. Now it's not like that, and I can't fully put my finger on why other than the fact that I have more or less hit my bottom. No I haven't physically harmed anyone, and no I'm not in any legal trouble. But I can see my problem for what it is.

I have gone to a few meetings and I will continue to go to them. Right now, I am more concerned with getting through the withdrawal process. If anyone has advice on what I can do to get through this withdrawal process, I would really appreciate it. I don't have the money for detox/sober living and suboxone, as you said, is far too hard to find out there.

 

[lordnate93]

detox is a bitch, i have done it cold turkey at a free detox place around my area, twice in the last few months. this last time while on the waiting list i robo tripped, had some bud and several kpins, and after 4 days of that i slept half a night on the fifth day and almost a full night the next, most sober houses u can get into and have about 2 weeks to get a job, give or take. some need cash upfront as well. and since u said ud been to some meetings, definetly keep going, get some phone numbers, call them, and make some new friends, they will save your life. look for the happy people laughing and joking, get there early and stay late. u can get a LOT from meetings its really the bread and butter of sobriety. and for whatever reason your stopping and have hit bottom, dont deny your bottom, you have decided enough to be enough it sounds like. but know it can and will suck u down worse and quicker then before. good luck to you, theres a gorilla on your back but he will tire soon enough i promise you that

 

[TheGame985]

detox is a bitch, i have done it cold turkey at a free detox place around my area, twice in the last few months. this last time while on the waiting list i robo tripped, had some bud and several kpins, and after 4 days of that i slept half a night on the fifth day and almost a full night the next, most sober houses u can get into and have about 2 weeks to get a job, give or take. some need cash upfront as well. and since u said ud been to some meetings, definetly keep going, get some phone numbers, call them, and make some new friends, they will save your life. look for the happy people laughing and joking, get there early and stay late. u can get a LOT from meetings its really the bread and butter of sobriety. and for whatever reason your stopping and have hit bottom, dont deny your bottom, you have decided enough to be enough it sounds like. but know it can and will suck u down worse and quicker then before. good luck to you, theres a gorilla on your back but he will tire soon enough i promise you that

I get the demons that pop into my head from time to time but when you say dont deny your bottom, I believe I'm doing what I need to do to keep my mindset in the right place which is to remember how it feels to be here and what decisions brought me here in the first place. I have a support group, but I've tired them out because I've been back and forth and I'm tired of doing that to them and to myself. I hate this feeling of detoxing and I'm doing it cold turkey. My biggest thing is going to be getting some sleep and still somehow leading a productive life in the meantime.

If you or anybody knows some things I can do to help myself out during the detox process, I'm all ears. More drugs isn't an option because I don't have any money nor do I have any medical insurance to go see someone to get a prescription for something. Right now I'm taking vitamins and that's about it but if anybody has more advice I'm all ears.

 

[TheGame985]

Another thing is that I get the weirdest f'kin emotions ever. Especially in the morning it seems like. At night my body is sweating and my legs don't stop kicking and it is the worst. When I wake up in the morning I start thinking about the weirdest shit like how only 3 short years ago I was finishing with my masters degree and my family was so proud of me. Now it seems like I am the black sheep and nobody wants anything to do with me. I just don't know what I can do to help myself get through this detox process and do so with my brain intact.

 

[lordnate93]

dont feel a burden to those who will help you, i dont care how many times uve relapsed, and by denying your bottom im talking about comparing your bottom to others, just cause u havent (idn) sucked dick for drugs doesnt mean you arent an addict or arent bad enough to find sobriety, and as most addicts are, you must be smart having graduated college, and to even maintain a drug habit that takes some manipulation on a wholenother level. just remember nothings permanent, i cant tell u too much besides drink water, i would chain smoke and walk in circles like i was in a jail cell at 3am, but that helped, for me it was easier to not try to sleep during the night but give it a shot in the day if applicable

 

[TheGame985]

dont feel a burden to those who will help you, i dont care how many times uve relapsed, and by denying your bottom im talking about comparing your bottom to others, just cause u havent (idn) sucked dick for drugs doesnt mean you arent an addict or arent bad enough to find sobriety, and as most addicts are, you must be smart having graduated college, and to even maintain a drug habit that takes some manipulation on a wholenother level. just remember nothings permanent, i cant tell u too much besides drink water, i would chain smoke and walk in circles like i was in a jail cell at 3am, but that helped, for me it was easier to not try to sleep during the night but give it a shot in the day if applicable

I have actually done that (sleeping during the day because at night it's impossible). The thing is, everybody in my house thinks I'm a useless loser who doesn't want to work and blah blah blah. Outside of one person who has gone through a very minor withdrawal (and I'm not trying to compare people's miseries), nobody knows exactly what it's like to feel like you're going to jump out of your skin at night when you try to go to sleep and during the day you can barely get the energy up to go take a shower. Those types of things are the worst. I know the first few days are the hardest, but the days after that aren't exactly a picnic because you're still dealing with the mental stuff of --(a) how am I going to function knowing that I'm done with drugs forever---because like they have said in NA, when you relapse, you hit go back into your hole 2x as fast and the hole is 2x as deep. It's brutal on so many levels, as I don't need to tell you obviously. Anyways, I'm in this for the long haul. I just don't want to hate life every day. I try to read and play video games and put the negatives out of my head for a while (financial problems I have that aren't going away yet) and anything that is too stressful--not to sound like a bitch. I've also made it my goal to not complain about it as much as humanly possible. Nobody wants to hear it, they've seen me go through it for a week and then go back, so I don't want them to think I'm putting on another act to get their guard down, just so I can do the same thing over again.

 

[dmtmate]

ibogaine will stop your withdrawl systems and possibly give your soul peace so you can quit. doesn't work for everyone but for those who study it and want to quit it will work. downside is its pricey and you have to go to Mexico or Canada. the usa doesn't want people to get clean on a miracle drug that grows naturally.

 

[Effuzion]

Meetings help but only if you really believe in it. I think that whole thing is bullshit and I can't stand to do it, but if it helps you more power to you. It's worth a shot if you've never tried it before.

Best thing you can do for the lack of energy is to get up and go do things. You're gonna have those couple days where you don't wanna leave your bed and that's fine, but as soon as you start feeling a little better get out and go for a walk. Then another walk. And another. Walks are kick ass when you're in withdrawals.

As for not getting in fights with your mom, try telling her what you're going through and ask for help. If that's not gonna go over well (and it probably won't with most moms), then try and arrange it so you don't have to deal with her at least until you start getting your brain back. Last thing you need is something setting you off when you're detoxing.

Good luck.