Infinitblastoff
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I've been using some kind of opiate via IV for the last 3 years, sometimes switching to suboxone and sometimes switching back to dope. Lately for the last month I've been using dope which I suspect contains mostly but not only fentanyl. I want to stop but the withdrawals are so extreme for me that I cannot mentally will myself through them no matter how hard I seem to try. I really do however want to stop and have been sober for years at a time in the past.
All this being said I'm looking to do a fast taper to reduce the hard edge of withdrawals. I need help deciding which one of these two methods makes the most physiological and pharmacological sense to do.
Method 1: I pick a dosage lower than my normal dosage by a decent amount, I wait say 6 hours until withdrawal kicks in and I do my small dose. I'm not 100% better but I'm 40% or so better. I repeat this process every 6 hours until finally my body adjusts to this dosage and I stop experiencing the worst of the withdrawals and then I decrease again and repeat. Each cycle I make significant decreases.
Method 2: I do two bigger doses a day but with a longer duration between them, I'm still doing less than normal, still experiencing withdrawal, still never completely getting rid of symptoms but twice a day I get myself off deaths door step part of the way. This method would use the same amount as method 1 but instead of doing 4 doses a day at 6 hour spaces, I'll do 2 larger ones at 12 intervals. Does the time between doses matter as much as dose size? Either way time and dose are always both decreasing.
As a side note I know tapering can prolong the whole experience but it's just what I need to do, I do wonder however if someone with more knowledge of the physiology behind opiate withdrawal can weigh in here... I have always understood withdrawals to work like this, you do less, you get sick, if you do not return to the original dose needed to not feel sick but continue doing a smaller dose, eventually your brain begins replacing the drug with its own endorphins. So any amount of sickness as long as it's maintained and not back tracked by dosing higher would be improvement towards a lower dosage and less sickness later, am I correct on this? Anyone have any taper success stories?
All this being said I'm looking to do a fast taper to reduce the hard edge of withdrawals. I need help deciding which one of these two methods makes the most physiological and pharmacological sense to do.
Method 1: I pick a dosage lower than my normal dosage by a decent amount, I wait say 6 hours until withdrawal kicks in and I do my small dose. I'm not 100% better but I'm 40% or so better. I repeat this process every 6 hours until finally my body adjusts to this dosage and I stop experiencing the worst of the withdrawals and then I decrease again and repeat. Each cycle I make significant decreases.
Method 2: I do two bigger doses a day but with a longer duration between them, I'm still doing less than normal, still experiencing withdrawal, still never completely getting rid of symptoms but twice a day I get myself off deaths door step part of the way. This method would use the same amount as method 1 but instead of doing 4 doses a day at 6 hour spaces, I'll do 2 larger ones at 12 intervals. Does the time between doses matter as much as dose size? Either way time and dose are always both decreasing.
As a side note I know tapering can prolong the whole experience but it's just what I need to do, I do wonder however if someone with more knowledge of the physiology behind opiate withdrawal can weigh in here... I have always understood withdrawals to work like this, you do less, you get sick, if you do not return to the original dose needed to not feel sick but continue doing a smaller dose, eventually your brain begins replacing the drug with its own endorphins. So any amount of sickness as long as it's maintained and not back tracked by dosing higher would be improvement towards a lower dosage and less sickness later, am I correct on this? Anyone have any taper success stories?
