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RCs Need a Coke like RC suggestion with easy comedown

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tk123

tk123

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I used to take branded RCs but no longer like the idea of taking anything but pure chemicals that I know the full singular ingredient of. The three I have tried are:

  • 5APB
  • MDAI
  • Ethylphenidate (EPH)

I liked the effects of the first but the come downs were horrible. The second's effects were far too mild for my liking with almost no reinforcing effects. At higher doses the serotonin release of MDAI was apparent but the lack of dopamine activity left a lot to be desired.

My favorite has been the EPH. Unfortunately I can only find it in crystal form so snorting as a ROI is extremely unpleasant. Plus although its effects are nice they are not as strong or long lasting as say the 5APB. But with the ease of comedown coupled with the effects makes EPH the best value I have found thus far.

Are there any other RCs I can get similar effects from. I would like something coke like in effect with a slight comedown that goes away quickly and leaves little to no trace as EPH is for me. Preferably one with a greater effect than EPH.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
 
i dont see how this has any harm reduction value. that said, nothing is going to be like coke except coke.
 
Not really. And if you're using ethylphenidate, you might as well use cocaine. If you get caught with the ethylphendiate, they will most likely be able to charge you with possession of a Schedule II narcotic through the Federal Analogue Act. Methylphenidate (Ritalin) is a Schedule II narcotic, and the only structural difference is the replacement of a methyl group (-CH3) with an ethyl group (-CH2-CH3). Through the Federal Analogue act, drugs not specifically listed in the Controlled Substance Act that are close enough in structure to controlled substances in Schedules I and II, can be construed into the respective schedule of it's controlled counterpart.
 
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There are no RCs that are similar to coke. The closest thing in my honest opinion though, would be pentedrone. It is numbing, stimulating, and fairly powerful. No stimulant RC is going to give coke-like euphoria though.

If you're buying EPH online, just buy cocaine online instead. Cocaine is much safer in the sense that we know what it does and how it reacts in humans short term and long term. It's also a much better high and far more predictable. The legality difference between cocaine and most RCs is pretty much... wall, there is none.
 
Crashing said:
... The legality difference between cocaine and most RCs is pretty much... wall, there is none.
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Speak for your country only please. Another american who thinks US is the only country that matters.

I on the other hand live in a country which still has no analogue, derivatives. etc. laws so everything that is not explicitly banned is allowed here. Most RC amphetamines, cathinones, APBs and many more are still legal. Of course if they find a kilo of RCs under your bed and prove you are selling them as drugs you have problems, but possession itself of RCs is still fine in many euro countries.

Another reason I'm happy not to live in US :p
 
I, though, would not recommend trying pentedrone. Numbing is only bad for your heart and it has no real recreational value, imo. But, I enjoyed doing a-PVP. Many people get shi**y a-PVP though, so they get only anxiety and high heart rate. Also, it is effective from like, let's say, 30mg, unlike some people who do 5mg and get no euphoria... Of course you don't.

Why to look for a cocaine alternative? Cocaine is - expensive, illegal, whereas, including my country, RCs are mostly legal. Cocaine has strong numbing effect which is quite bad for the heart and cocaine is cut as hell, so it is even more dangerous if you can't reach the good quality coke, plus bad quality coke has often very harsh comedown and the price-quality ratio is even worse. If I could choose between 10g a-PVP or 1g 40% cocaine (at the same price for me), I would definitely go for the first one, because last one would run out in a night, former one would last me weeks.
 
Of the ones you listed EPH is the closes to coke but even that is still quite a bit off.

5-APB is more similar to MDA/MDMA and MDAI is basically just a serotonin releasing agent (can be fun, but not similar to coke)
 
Here in the US there used to be a substance named "no brand names" and it was supposedly an analogue of coke that was developed years ago to replace coke with less abuse potential. Not sure if that's true... But this stuff was wayyyyt better than coke. Very smooth come up, great euphoria, no harsh comedown. It was freaking awesome... Was *snip sorry no prices* bucks a gram... Then it got banned...

Not sure of exact chemical but it was packages as bathsalts.
 
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Ethylphenidate sucks imo. I have tried it twice. First time I was only trying small amounts and got only the stimulation. Next time I tried a bit higher dosage. At 30mg insufflated it produced very mild extra concentration, at 60mg insufflated it produced somewhat more concentration and at 120mg insufflated I lost all emotions, was concentrating to whatever I wanted to do. Like ultimate concentration, imagine being on Ritalin and Adderall and all that shit mixed up and imagine they are all boosting each other ability to improve your concentration ability. And then after a couple of hours I got sick for like 4-5 hours, I had some nausea, which was very uncomfortable, but did not make me puke.

Conclusion - no recreational value. Do not know why, but majority of ethylphenidate users do not get any euphoria from it. It is a very good study aid instead and that is why I actually ordered it in the first place.
 
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Speak for your country only please. Another american who thinks US is the only country that matters.

I on the other hand live in a country which still has no analogue, derivatives. etc. laws so everything that is not explicitly banned is allowed here. Most RC amphetamines, cathinones, APBs and many more are still legal. Of course if they find a kilo of RCs under your bed and prove you are selling them as drugs you have problems, but possession itself of RCs is still fine in many euro countries.

Another reason I'm happy not to live in US :p
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Yeah um.......... my bad. <3 Glad you're happy not living in the US though, call your friends back to the promised land.
 
Get some a-pvp I here its the bomb! No comedown whatsoever


Just Kidding!!!! Don't touch that shit you will regret it!!! It's fucked up who knows how many lives
 
Well uhm just so you know RCs are not exactly pure.....think of the vendors as your online mexican cartels hidden behind a computer. They dont care about the consumer, they care about the money. Friendly heads up. Well honestly ive seen some new cocaine "analogues" but most are either expensive, lack even basic information about them and are really just trial and error. If you want pure coke good look at some purification process and you will then know what goes up yer nose.
 
drugfreekid said:
Well uhm just so you know RCs are not exactly pure.....think of the vendors as your online mexican cartels hidden behind a computer. They dont care about the consumer, they care about the money. Friendly heads up. Well honestly ive seen some new cocaine "analogues" but most are either expensive, lack even basic information about them and are really just trial and error. If you want pure coke good look at some purification process and you will then know what goes up yer nose.
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Well stated, even if ur blow tests blue it's still tough to tell what the hell else is in it.
 
Some people just accept the chemical if it has coke like effects, for the price and (possibly) purity which also gives a smoother comedown, even if the substance is weaker. Substances as strong as coke or even stronger are just so much more expensive they are not worth the try and they aren't even being mixed, but even a bit weaker rc -s may help for cravings and could save money for one.

For me it is about cravings I want to deal with by looking into RC-s analogue of cocaine.
 
Corazon said:
lol @ Need a Coke like RC suggestion with easy comedown
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Yeah, that statement has pretty much been the general consensus for the past 10-20 years. Help!

If they discover that chemical, it's likely to be more expensive. You get what you pay for, that's why chemicals like 4mec cost roughly 1/12th the price of raw cocaine at gram prices. Even pure consumer level MDPV when it first came out was about half the price of cocaine.
 
If something would come out better than coke and actually cheap enough to produce, it could lead to either very high price or for a better market the fall of cocaine market prices, which would lead us to prefer coke as a cheap alternative to xxx and "I need a xxx like RC with easy comedown". Would be still positive though, cheap cocaine, who hasn't dreamed about travelling to Bolivia :D
 
No RC's are close to what cocaine does to you and that's the point.

Cocaine is a shitty drug.

Invest in coca leaves if you dig it that much - or switch to something like some kind of flourinated amphetamine product. You won't get that coke hit either way, and even if you did it'd probably be as emotionally expensive as cocaine itself.
 
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