Natural Benzo Substitutes

[Mracid]

I'd add mad dog skull cap (scutellaria lateriflora) but generally you've got a good mix. On my experiance, tea (or extract) is the best way to get a long effect but for panic attacts or anger issues I'd suggest the same thing as for insomnia; Tea (or extract) plus vaporizing (or smoking) the plant or extract. It works wonder. I recently bought some Valerian,passion flower and skullcap and made an extract wich was equal to 3x, he took 1g oral and vaped 200mg with some cannabis and the ''high'' overcame the cannabis for like 20 mins and it felt just like 1mg of lorazepam. Effects slowed down quickly tho he said. I still had a long and smooth anxiolytic high with a great peak at the beginning. (I have quite a tolerance to cannabis and didnt vape alot, 120mg. so that is probably why the natural benzos overcame weed for the peak)

 

[Mracid]

Nothing natural compares to a Benzo

you're so right the high is so intense and long compared to what you get in nature. what I liked is Valerian,passion flower and lorazepam, first time tried lorazepam and took 1mg plus like 2,4g of both valerian and passionflower then redosed lorazepam 1mg 5 hours later (vaped cannabis twice between 2 doses) then had a 2h blackout I think I slept that whole time until my brother came back and woke me, the rest of that day was mellow and sleepy , I still liked the high it gave specially cuz he is diagnosed with General anxiety and social phobia without medication yet (working on it, it's pretty hard to get something else than anti-depressants when under 18 with GAD and social phobia)

 

[dopemaster]

That is alot of pills to replace one.

Lemme know if you find something that works good.

I already know about exercise, vitamins, and sex.

 

[Americanfloosie]

Phenibut definitely works but in a very mild way compared to benzodiazepines. Theanine is already working wonders for my mood but all of this could A.) be in my head or B.) could be do to my rigorous work out routine. Either way I wake up feeling awesome I'm super optimistic about my day ( and I'm just a stay at home mom so my days are pretty dull) and I'm actually present with the people around me instead of thinking about a million different drugs I could be doing to make life more interesting. Let me know if I could help in any other way! Good luck!!

 

[Americanfloosie]

I'd add mad dog skull cap (scutellaria lateriflora) but generally you've got a good mix. On my experiance, tea (or extract) is the best way to get a long effect but for panic attacts or anger issues I'd suggest the same thing as for insomnia; Tea (or extract) plus vaporizing (or smoking) the plant or extract. It works wonder. My dog's best friend recently bought some Valerian,passion flower and skullcap and made an extract wich was equal to 3x, he took 1g oral and vaped 200mg with some cannabis and the ''high'' overcame the cannabis for like 20 mins and he said it felt just like 1mg of lorazepam. Effects slowed down quickly tho he said. He still had a long and smooth anxiolytic high with a great peak at the beginning. (He have quite a tolerance to cannabis and didnt vape alot, 120mg. so that is probably why the natural benzos overcame weed for the peak)

We don't do "my dog" or "SWIM" here. Just say what you want to say and stop being so cryptic.

 

[dopemaster]

Yeah especially over you legal tonics.

Anyways it is against the BLUA to use SWIM (when you really mean to say myself) or talk about your pet dog with a smack habit (which is once again obviously you).

You are not avoiding any incrimination by doing this. The thing is no one really gives a fuck if you talk about drugs.

It is a drug forum. I really wouldn't sweat it. The fact is you are not that important. Just do not ever solicit drugs through this sight or talk about the huge amount of heroin you just scored and no fucks shall ever be given. But what people here will care about is if you break the BLUA which you really should read.

You can try to debate the rules all you want, but the fact is a moderator will give you an infraction and eventually a ban if you break the rules.

 

[Ninae]

I don't know if this is going to work because I'm suppressing stress so well I'm virtually emotionless. I can't get motivated to do anything because I have such a small emotional spectrum. It's either too much stress and the feelings that come with it, like irritability and aggression, which I can't handle, or just indifferent, feeling-less.

Doesn't feel much like me and in a way I prefer the emotional ups and downs. At least I felt alive. Suppose this is how most people feel but I don't know if I can get used to this.

 

[robby112]

not natural but hydroxyzine seems to help a bit and almost any doc is willing to prescribe them

 

[Ninae]

All I have is Oxazepam and it's crap isn't it?

 

[beforethebeginning]

benzo's are like playing with fire,
they're great to eliminate anxiety but u use them just a little bit more than is needed and ur body gets addicted. oxazepam for example i wouldnt use more than 15mg twice a week ideally.

diazepam 10mg once every 14 days maybe due to longer halflife. if your body is never clean of the drug,
then how is it not going to get dependent ?

oxazepam isnt crap it's awesome. doesnt make the mind fucked up,
but creates good anxiety relief and physical relaxation.

but about being clean from benzos
i suggest you could also use some protein powder. (2x20g whey isolate + 150g of fish, meet or veggie substitute is good amount of protein per day)

but u need to drink a lot of water to flush all that stuff tru ya kidneys,
especially if u take other supplements as well! u dont want accelerated aging problems

 

[Ninae]

You underestimate the extent of my benzo tolerance.

I get scripted 25 mgs Oxazepam a day to keep withdrawals away. Before I was addicted to 10 Etizolam a day on top of that.

No stress relief or relaxation for me. The only thing is if I take enough I pass out. I know benzos are like playing with fire, they've made me insane and come close to killing me many many times.