Narcotic sustainability. Is it possible?

[LegallyMotivated]

Hello my name is LegallyMotivated and I'm an addict.

Is it possible to sustain an optimal level on Stims? You out there who have done any type of speed know what I'm talking about. That peak of productivity, motivation, and happiness.

I used to smoke Methamphetamine, which is semi-sustainable as long as you have a copius amounts of sleeping pills handy, but I got tagged, bagged, and locked up. So I'm not trying to go back to Methamphetamine, for as long as there are plenty of legal alternatives.

I have a lot of interest in MPA, although I wish it had an extra carbon to make it more of a phenyl. I also have interest in propylhexedrine, bath salts, levometamfetamine(I'll half to hold of the levo till I get off probation), and camfetamine. I apologize for being a little behind on the laws, could someone please explain why no one is willing to ship to the USA these days? I know of a supplier that would most likely ship it to me but they only take WU and that requires an ID so that's a no go. I don't even know if I want the stuff if it's not allowed in the United States. And if those are illegal (they are not I checked the list of controlled substances.) What legal alternatives are there?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

It is impossible...

Your brain can only make so much release and produce so much dopamine and norepinephrine at a time... your brain will adjust to this as well. It will become less sensitive to it.

You can drain these to the point of exhaustion... It is not a sustainable endeavor.

 

[LegallyMotivated]

I want to argue, but I know you're right. I've been sober almost a year and I'm just not where I'd like to be and for some reason I feel going back to stimulants could get me a desirable outcome.

But I fear your right. I guess I'll just have to stop being a sloth and get school done the old fashion way.

Thanks for the input!

 

[RedRum OG]

nope, you cant be high forever. especially stims. it takes a huge toll on the brain, all the chemicals out of balance and ruined receptors.

sobriety is the closest thing. you will always feel baseline, and you will learn to like it. sobriety truly is the neverending high, if you can just learn to look at it that way.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

You can't have your cake and eat it.

 

[LegallyMotivated]

RedRum OG; Yeah I guess I'll just have to learn to live with it. God help me when pot is legal. It's like heroin to me, smokable laziness. Wish me luck!

Artificial Emotion; Well put!

Thanks for the input fellas, I think that's just what I needed to hear Curse tolerances and flimsy receptors! Makes a man wish he could pull an Uber-Alexander Shulgin and find a super narcotic that works permanently without neurotoxicity. One can dream!

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Weed is different....

 

[LegallyMotivated]

Different in what way? My experience with Marijuana is decimated short term, and inevitably long term memory for months after use. Although in weed's defense I did smoke what is probably considered a ridiculous amount. Also;

It is impossible...

Your brain can only make so much release and produce so much dopamine and norepinephrine at a time... your brain will adjust to this as well. It will become less sensitive to it.

You can drain these to the point of exhaustion... It is not a sustainable endeavor.

Don't many drugs mimic the endogenous compounds? (ie Methamphetamine) That's what I've gathered in my research. Although there are reuptake inhibitors that are completely dependant on what the brain can produce. (ie fluoxetine) Please add to this or correct me if necessary.

 

[Artificial Emotion]

Studies have shown that long term cannabis users do not suffer anywhere near the same level of cognitive impairment, reduced reaction times and memory deficits that novice or occasional users experience. You will find that at the start concentration, memory etc. are all significantly affected when you consume weed but once you start to become a daily user smoking throughout the day or more commonly each evening throughout the week, you start to be able to function more easily. So in my opinion cannabis lends itself to more regular use and as long as you take the right precautions, it's extremely safe relative to almost every other major recreational drug of use, even combined with many other drugs. Stick to vaporising or eating and you have an excellent all round substance that is a much better choice than the alternatives discussed in this thread. Use the right strain that's suited to your taste and lifestyle and be sensible with the amount you use and you may find it very useful and enjoyable. It's certainly a lot more sustainable than regularly taking stimulants, that's for sure, although I would still recommend to take regular breaks and to avoid smoking all day long.

 

[marla0singer]

Word that Artificial Emotion!! I earned a bachelors degree in science in 4 years, smoked every day. Heck, I graduated top of my high school class smoking almost daily the last year and a half. The key for me was "avoid smoking all day long". I treated it like having a glass of wine after work. On special occasions, like camping, then morning till night. But smoking all day every day can be negative #1. because you do feel lazy and de-motivated, and #2. it's good to be good w being sober. There are lots of life situations that being sober is a way better option than not. If one is always intoxicated, on anything, being sober in itself can become scary and cause avoidance. Drugs to enhance life, not rule it?

Congrats on kicking the stims legally motivated!!!! It is a hard thing to do... and from what I understand (sure others will fill in holes/errors) it can take 2 to 3 years to FULLY recover from stim addiction, so really, things should keep getting better for you, you are a ways off from where your true baseline!

 

[Not Again]

If you could be high forever, what would be the point. Eventually it would feel normal and you would have no want to get high.

I used to snort meth and I would have 10x more things done than the smokers would. At least thats how I remember it. I learned my trade on it.I now am a skilled worker , working in the trade I learned as a tweaker. So It helped me a bit

I'll do an adderall and hate it. But I still do it, I don't know why. It's the addict in me.