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stuckinaloop said:
How can you not find a detox. Please share with us. We are all drug using bullshitters here...
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It's possible that their general enquiry numbers won't be answered for a few days over the Christmas break - that's certainly the case for almost everything here. No reason not to be on the phone first thing Wednesday morning though.
 
He can't find a detox because he already called and doesn't have money to pay the co-fee for insurance.
You people are sayings its not his parents fault but I know damn well my parents would never ignore me during CHRISTMAS even if they knew I was terribly addicted. That is not good parenting and I don't care what anyone says. Jake is not stealing the majority of his money. They are giving it to him. Thats called "enabling", thats not what smart parents do if they know their childs using drugs.
Just saying, they are just as much to blame as Jake is.

And what percent is someone actually accountable for addiction? 2%? 98%? Noone knows is the point. Jake have you worked in a while man you use to always find jobs I think maybe look for a parttime job for now? Or are you doing something now?
Lets take this logically, if you don't plan on quitting soon, you might as well look for work right?
Don't take more from this problem then you need.
I'm sure you beat yourself up all day long, while many people will still claim you're "selfish", thats addiction I guess. But don't let it break you bro you're just getting bored of drugs slowly and when it happens it happens.
 
Dude he is still physically addicted to opiates with no solid source, he is trying to get into a detox, i think a job is off the cards at the moment.

Also another thing bojangles how can you claim it's his parents fault this and that? The dude is a full grown man 30 years of age, i wouldnt say they're enabling him per say, just preventing him from having to suck dick for his habit. They're not as much to blame as jake is for his habit, thats complete bullshit and a copout. Dude old enough to take responsibility for himself, what do you mean "good parenting", he's a full gown adult, not some developing teenager. Like i said, obviously they know he's addicted to drugs, they probably give him some money to stop him selling himself/stealing money for his drugs. So seems bullshit you're here rubishing his parents and saying it's half their fault, i mean they're still supporting their 30 year old son like he is 15 years old, they cant be that evil.. I just dont buy it, we're not getting all the story, i think you'd find jake has a history of being an ass to his family, there is a reason why they didn't invite him to christmas.
 
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Bojangles69 said:
And what percent is someone actually accountable for addiction? 2%? 98%? Noone knows is the point. Jake have you worked in a while man you use to always find jobs I think maybe look for a parttime job for now? Or are you doing something now?
Lets take this logically, if you don't plan on quitting soon, you might as well look for work right?
Don't take more from this problem then you need.
I'm sure you beat yourself up all day long, while many people will still claim you're "selfish", thats addiction I guess. But don't let it break you bro you're just getting bored of drugs slowly and when it happens it happens.
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So you're saying the most logical thing for him to do right now is working a part time job? Just disregard and give up looking for treatment based off of one rehab being too expensive? Like that has worked in the past at all? Cost is not the main issue, that's been made clear. He's afraid of his daddy cutting off his trust fund and not being able to buy drugs with the money anymore is what it comes down to. He's obviously just not ready to commit to being totally drug free.

I also find it funny how one second you are lashing out at Jake in anger and the next post you make is defending the very same things you just ranted that he needed to change. Hypocritical, no? ;)

People are telling him very good options for him to take and if he wants to ignore it and keep acting like a child then he'll be posting in this same thread when he's 40. And he doesn't have no one to blame but himself. 8)
 
The answer definitely isn't to keep on using and find a part time job. 8o

Jake, you need to figure out how serious you are about your recovery.

It's good you are looking into a detox, but you seriously need to consider telling your family. You are going to need their support going through this and you are setting yourself up for failure hiding this from them.

I think you are lying to yourself that your parents don't know you are a junky. Do you really think you are slick enough to have hidden addiction the past 2 years?

In my opinion you need to come clean. If you want any long term clean time you are going to have to be honest about them problem.

I know you are afraid of being cut off but how about manning up and taking responsibilities for your actions? I'm guessing the *won't* cut you off especially if you are legally entitled to the money. If you parents have dealt with you for this long what makes you think this is the last straw? Come on now..

A little bit of honesty goes a long way. If you want to pave the road to recovery with even more lies it won't be a very long road..

You will also have to take your recovery a lot more seriously if they know because they will be mad if you fuck up. You have no motivation to do well now because no one is holding you accountable.

I'm not a 12 stepper.. but isn't the *FIRST* step admitting you have a problem..?
 
jake99 said:
im calling bergen detox in north jersey now
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Good shit. If that don't work out, do what Overdone said, or go to the free clinic you were talking about in Philly. Regardless, don't just give up if this place you're calling doesn't accommodate you.
 
Good decision Jake, hope everything works out for the best.

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Bojangles, don't post if you cant follow the rules. Be respectful of others.
 
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