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stuckinaloop
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I think your family will behind you..they love you.
But honestly dude, your 29 years old..going on 30. Are you going to be saying the same shit when your 40 (by then you will have made 100,000 posts on this subject), about being scared mommy and daddy wont give you an allowance anymore? I am sorry man but we've all seen you post the same shit so many times now I don't know what answer your expecting to get.
You are beating a dead horse. No matter how many times you ask, you literally do the opposite of what everyone tells you. Just start on online journal and link us..there has been probably 20 threads or more about "quitting methadone, mommy and daddy cuttin gyou off, problems getting clean, na, methadone methadone methadone, mommy and daddy, mommy adn daddy getting mad about the car, mommy this daddy this, your trust fund"..dude I always tried to help you but its getting old. Half the time you don't take peoples advice the other half you take it as criticism.
Take some fucking responsibility for once. You have lost the ability to make rational decisions..you have the disease of addiction, ok so maybe you can't control that. But holy fuck take some action man, make some moves besides just getting high on xanax and dope. You can control what happens in the future
The way I see it, there are only 2 choices. Continue using, come back here every other day and reword this question and make a new thread.
Or tell mommy and daddy you were a bad boy and see if they ground you. Finally take responsibility for your self and what you did, your not fuckin 10 years old anymore, life isn't going to always be peachy. I ain't saying getting clean is easy but all you fucking care about is your trust fund. Shits gonna be fucking wasted on drugs if you don't do anythin gabou it.
"you were lonely so you copped a bun" why didnt you ffucking invite your self over to your families party? they are your mom and dad. you got no problem taking their money but won't ask for an invite? you honestly think they dont know your using? why the FUCK else would they not invite you over dude. be logical for once.
I am not sayin i know all the secrets to quittin cause I dont, but obvoiusly you know what you want, th eonly thing standing in th way is you being a scared little kid about getting in trouble with your parents.
There are so many fucking obvious things you could do but you WONT. Go to salvation army rehab for fuckin free, 6 month program to 1 year. You'll have reservations though-too long, mom n dad will find out oh noo. Detox using subs on your own (reservations-costs too much, something about your mom and dad) then get a naltrexone implant (reserations-what if i need to use for some reason, not enogh money-but youll continue to buy dope and coke and xanax), call more than 2 hospitals and inquire about detoxing. Dude just make some fucking moves, call the addiction hotline in your area. Grow the fuck up, did I say that? We would never beleive you were 29 if you hadn't told us a million times
But honestly dude, your 29 years old..going on 30. Are you going to be saying the same shit when your 40 (by then you will have made 100,000 posts on this subject), about being scared mommy and daddy wont give you an allowance anymore? I am sorry man but we've all seen you post the same shit so many times now I don't know what answer your expecting to get.
You are beating a dead horse. No matter how many times you ask, you literally do the opposite of what everyone tells you. Just start on online journal and link us..there has been probably 20 threads or more about "quitting methadone, mommy and daddy cuttin gyou off, problems getting clean, na, methadone methadone methadone, mommy and daddy, mommy adn daddy getting mad about the car, mommy this daddy this, your trust fund"..dude I always tried to help you but its getting old. Half the time you don't take peoples advice the other half you take it as criticism.
Take some fucking responsibility for once. You have lost the ability to make rational decisions..you have the disease of addiction, ok so maybe you can't control that. But holy fuck take some action man, make some moves besides just getting high on xanax and dope. You can control what happens in the future
The way I see it, there are only 2 choices. Continue using, come back here every other day and reword this question and make a new thread.
Or tell mommy and daddy you were a bad boy and see if they ground you. Finally take responsibility for your self and what you did, your not fuckin 10 years old anymore, life isn't going to always be peachy. I ain't saying getting clean is easy but all you fucking care about is your trust fund. Shits gonna be fucking wasted on drugs if you don't do anythin gabou it.
"you were lonely so you copped a bun" why didnt you ffucking invite your self over to your families party? they are your mom and dad. you got no problem taking their money but won't ask for an invite? you honestly think they dont know your using? why the FUCK else would they not invite you over dude. be logical for once.
I am not sayin i know all the secrets to quittin cause I dont, but obvoiusly you know what you want, th eonly thing standing in th way is you being a scared little kid about getting in trouble with your parents.
There are so many fucking obvious things you could do but you WONT. Go to salvation army rehab for fuckin free, 6 month program to 1 year. You'll have reservations though-too long, mom n dad will find out oh noo. Detox using subs on your own (reservations-costs too much, something about your mom and dad) then get a naltrexone implant (reserations-what if i need to use for some reason, not enogh money-but youll continue to buy dope and coke and xanax), call more than 2 hospitals and inquire about detoxing. Dude just make some fucking moves, call the addiction hotline in your area. Grow the fuck up, did I say that? We would never beleive you were 29 if you hadn't told us a million times
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Lolie
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Have you ever had a proper psychiatric assessment done Jake, perhaps while you were in jail? The reason I ask is because some of your behaviours are similar to those exhibited by people on the autism disorder spectrum.
I can think of alternative explanations - such as you being institutionalised during your young adulthood and simply not learning the skills necessary to make decisions and commitments and follow them through to completion - but I'm curious about whether any problems you've had with attaining functional adulthood have simply been dismissed without further investigation as being due to your drug use.
I can think of alternative explanations - such as you being institutionalised during your young adulthood and simply not learning the skills necessary to make decisions and commitments and follow them through to completion - but I'm curious about whether any problems you've had with attaining functional adulthood have simply been dismissed without further investigation as being due to your drug use.
Yeah i have been in hospitals for anxiety and depression when i was younger......................to this
you were lonely so you copped a bun" why didnt you ffucking invite your self over to your families party? they are your mom and dad. you got no problem taking their money but won't ask for an invite? you honestly think they dont know your using? why the FUCK else would they not invite you over dude. be logical for once.
It was not an option to be there with them..............................i cant invite myself over , i was NOT invited . so you dont know what you are talking abuot man
you were lonely so you copped a bun" why didnt you ffucking invite your self over to your families party? they are your mom and dad. you got no problem taking their money but won't ask for an invite? you honestly think they dont know your using? why the FUCK else would they not invite you over dude. be logical for once.
It was not an option to be there with them..............................i cant invite myself over , i was NOT invited . so you dont know what you are talking abuot man
I doubt you called them up yourself and asked to be invited over. You don't have a right to complain about them not inviting you if you're being dishonest with them all the time and not making a serious effort yourself to keep in contact with them.
nervousone
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You are almost 30 years old this is not your parents fault it is yours. You always have excuses. Man up and take your recovery into your own hands. No one is responsible to get you into rehab but yourself you are a grown man. Can you even blame your parents for not wanting to be around you? Have some respect for them and yourself and maybe you will get some back.
Lolie
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Do you know whether you've ever been assessed for things like ADHD, Asperger's, etc? You wouldn't necessarily have been assessed for those things if you were hospitalised for anxiety and depression.
Lolie
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Jake - where we seem to be at right now is you thinking that you're not going to get clean without going to detox and rehab but you having multiple reasons why you're not going to pursue that option.
Given that reality, how do you envisage the next few months of your life? Is it just going to be more copping when you have money and withdrawing when you don't? Are you going to start working on other areas of your life regardless of whether you're clean or are you just going to tread water until "something" happens to push your life in a particular direction?
What is it that you're looking for from us as you move towards next year?
Given that reality, how do you envisage the next few months of your life? Is it just going to be more copping when you have money and withdrawing when you don't? Are you going to start working on other areas of your life regardless of whether you're clean or are you just going to tread water until "something" happens to push your life in a particular direction?
What is it that you're looking for from us as you move towards next year?
I've heard the Salvation Army runs some form of detox/recovery program. Give the Dept of mental health or Dept of social services a call and see what is available. I think getting into an outpatient program is worth a try.Maybe expand your search a little further out. Getting into a new sub Dr would be an option if you weren't obsessive about being on it for more tan a few days and at a dose that actually works It takes some people a week or two at 16mgs a day to get stable before dropping to the dose youve tried in the past. Pointless if you would just end up trading them for dope.IDK, maybe you can find another clinic that offers a 21 day detox along with a 90 program.
8L4YN3
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Jake, you really try to avoid reality man. Perhaps it's to do with addiction, either way realise this and start making conscious effort to fight this trait you have developed.
Man how did you expect your parents to act? First of all i bet you 100% they know you're using, they're not stupid. Trust me jake it's really fucking obvious, and it would be even more obvious given the fact that you are you. How can you be angry at your parents for not inviting you for christmas?
You're nearly 30, still acting like you're 16, still scared mommy and daddy will cut off your allowance, it's pathetic man. You had money, instead of buying your nice mother a gift for christmas you bought cocaine and dope.. Then used the fact that you didnt get invited, through your own actions, used that as justification to go cop more dope...
Honestly what do you expect your parents do be like? I wouldn't want you around me either, as all you do get high, take my money and never show appreciation.
And now look whats happend since you made the mistake of quitting the methadone clinic. You're still addicted, still buying dope. Made no real progress at all, any progress you did make you ruined by taking 3 steps backwards by getting on coke on dope.
Now since you've quit the m-done clinic, you dont have a guranteed way to get well daily, now it is going to be impossible for you to work out your addiction, whilest battling to stay well.
Mark my words man, i told ya so, didnt i tell you leaving the clinic would be a mistake?
Seriously man, make a decision and stick with it. What are you waiting for, the fucking stars to align perfectly? I dont know how you could expect anything more from your parents at this time, they already do more than you deserve, maybe you didnt get invited because you consistantly lie to them.
Come on man, it's getting old now. I really don't believe any of your ideas are going to work jake. I'll come back in 3 months time to check, and i bet you nothing would have changed, this thread will be 20 pages long, jake would have tried and failed another 4 or 5 ways to get off opiates... I guess some people can't be fixed. Admit to yourself that your ways arent working at all, you clearly dont want to face life sober, if you did you wouldnt of bought coke, you just want an escape, i can understand the dope, but why the hell would you buy coke for? So much for "i really want to get clean, i mean that", stop bullshitting us jake. Stop lying to yourself, if you actually want to get clean, you dont go out and buy more drugs for recreational use..
Man how did you expect your parents to act? First of all i bet you 100% they know you're using, they're not stupid. Trust me jake it's really fucking obvious, and it would be even more obvious given the fact that you are you. How can you be angry at your parents for not inviting you for christmas?
You're nearly 30, still acting like you're 16, still scared mommy and daddy will cut off your allowance, it's pathetic man. You had money, instead of buying your nice mother a gift for christmas you bought cocaine and dope.. Then used the fact that you didnt get invited, through your own actions, used that as justification to go cop more dope...
Honestly what do you expect your parents do be like? I wouldn't want you around me either, as all you do get high, take my money and never show appreciation.
And now look whats happend since you made the mistake of quitting the methadone clinic. You're still addicted, still buying dope. Made no real progress at all, any progress you did make you ruined by taking 3 steps backwards by getting on coke on dope.
Now since you've quit the m-done clinic, you dont have a guranteed way to get well daily, now it is going to be impossible for you to work out your addiction, whilest battling to stay well.
Mark my words man, i told ya so, didnt i tell you leaving the clinic would be a mistake?
Seriously man, make a decision and stick with it. What are you waiting for, the fucking stars to align perfectly? I dont know how you could expect anything more from your parents at this time, they already do more than you deserve, maybe you didnt get invited because you consistantly lie to them.
Come on man, it's getting old now. I really don't believe any of your ideas are going to work jake. I'll come back in 3 months time to check, and i bet you nothing would have changed, this thread will be 20 pages long, jake would have tried and failed another 4 or 5 ways to get off opiates... I guess some people can't be fixed. Admit to yourself that your ways arent working at all, you clearly dont want to face life sober, if you did you wouldnt of bought coke, you just want an escape, i can understand the dope, but why the hell would you buy coke for? So much for "i really want to get clean, i mean that", stop bullshitting us jake. Stop lying to yourself, if you actually want to get clean, you dont go out and buy more drugs for recreational use..
Lolie
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The Salvos run some excellent therapeutic community programmes here which go for 18 months to 2 years and stage people out through half-way houses, assisted accommodation, etc. Unfortunately demand outstrips supply so they do tend to have waiting lists. They also run much shorter drug and alcohol programmes including psychosocial day programmes.
I'm pretty sure that any of the options which are available here are also available in the US, but accessing them may work differently. Jake's also unwilling to take options which can't be hidden from his father.
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OverDone
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okay jake... i mentioned this before but you ignored it. If you are in the tri-state area then you will have NO issue getting treatment. Below is a detailed outline of the EXACT steps you can take to get into treatment. I did it this way as well as many, MANY others. It requires no money and no health insurance.
The company that places people is called Gaudenzia (the link is at the bottom of this post)
1- Go to the local Social Security Office
2- Fill out forms for Medical Assistance (you can also apply for food stamps and housing assistance)
3- Indicate on the form and to the lady at the desk that you require a rejection letter and that you will wait for it
4- A case worker reviews your info and will provide the rejection letter that day or they can mail it to you
5- Take the rejection letter to Gaudenzia and they do a one-on-one assessment
6- They then place you in a facility
You will have to wait 3 or 4 hours for your rejection letter
Gaudenzia can get you into a facility the next day.
Basically, you are geting rejected by the state so that the county will pay your way
Here is the link to their site.
http://www.gaudenzia.org/
stuckinaloop
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How can you not find a detox. Please share with us. We are all drug using bullshitters here...
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