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My piracetam experience- decreases tolerance to ridiculous levels! Opinions?

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jess046

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I wanted to hear everybody's opinions on the use of piracetam to lower mdma tolerance to see how it compares to mine.

I started using piracetam a few weeks ago. My drug history- I've used bk-MDMA every weekend, usually twice a week for about four months with maybe a couple of weeks break in-between, plus occasional use of meth, speed and mdma. Yeah, I know, bad idea. But I don't need a science/chemistry lesson, I know my facts. I'm just irresponsible.


So my tolerance for the bk-mdma was rising, and I was up to about 400mg a night to get me high (not overly high, just good). I decided to take an ecstasy pill- absolutely no effect beside mild awkwardness for about an hour.

Then I started taking piracetam every day for a week. About 1600mg. Got a gram of crystal mdma. Decided to test it.

Took 800mg of piracetam on the day. Also use 5htp supplements (but I've been using those for a month now with no great improvements).

So I started with a small dose of MDMA. About 60mg. Snorted it.

15 mins later- holy shit. Body-load was crazy. My mind went foggy, tingles all over my body- couldn't think, was extremely hot. Sensory perception was altered- time was running very fast and I could hear absolutely every noise in the room. I had nausea and a tight feeling in the pit of my stomach, like a clenched fist. I think it was a mild case of serotonin syndrome (as I've had this before, preloading with too many supplements). I had only taken 200mg of 5htp the day before, so I knew this wasn't the cause. After about an hour the body-load lessened and the good effects started to take over. I was extremely chatty and had a lovely, warm filling in the pit of my stomach for the next four hours. It lasted so long, I ended up falling asleep, still buzzing with euphoria. Surprisingly, I received very little energy boost. On the other-hand, my boyfriend, who uses MDMA more than I do (as I also interspace my mdma use with speed) had no piracetam or 5htp, and had to snort two caps before he got a good buzz. So 120mg of MDMA. He was still quite high, which surprised me, considering his tolerance (up to about 5 bk-mdma caps of 100mg).

Next night, I decided to test it again. Took about 30mg of MDMA (snorted) at midnight. Immediate buzz with little to no bad side affects. Felt good, was very chatty and that same warm, euphoric feeling came back. I decided to do another teeny, tiny line at around 2 o'clock as I started to get tired from dancing. Immediate buzz back. Went home with my boyfriend around 4am. Still buzzing, but disappointed that the night was over. Knocked myself out with some xanax.

Decided to test it yet again on the third night. Took 800mg of piracetam. Boyfriend took nothing. At a party I took a cap of roughly 40mg of MDMA orally, as I presumed my tolerance would be up. Boyfriend took the same, probably a bit more in his cap. After about 30mins I got restless and took another cap of about 40mg. Maybe less- not entirely sure.

Boy was I fucked. Couldn't move. Sat by myself in silence during the come-up as my head got cloudy, my vision started to blur and my body tingled all over. Sensory perceptions again were fucked. Time went by very fast. Eye wobbles for about an hour. Could hear every little thing. I had about two big waves- the first about 40 mins after the first cap, the second, another 30 mins later. so, on average about two hours of mind fuckery and me sitting on a chair with a stupid expression on my face trying to talk. Which was easier than I thought as the good effects started to kick in. After two hours, the warm, tingly, euphoric feeling took over and I was ok- ready to go out on the town for a dance. Except, unfortunately, the party was over. My boyfriend took two caps of about 40mg and was extremely buzzed. Same as the first night. We went home and the party continued until about 6am, after about three hours of sex.

What magic fucking mdma do I have? How the hell can I be ingesting such little amounts with amazing results? I presume the piracetam was the cause, but then, my boyfriend's tolerance is so high and he is still getting great results with very small amounts.

I presume the saturday night party episode was a result of me taking it orally, but at the same this whole thing confuses the hell out of me. I've had crystal mdma, but never like this. This stuff is incredible.

I am scared now of taking stronger drugs, like meth. Half a point of crystal meth has me good and high, so I'm worried that the piracetam may have decreased my tolerance for that as well- meaning I would need like only 20mg to get high. Is this something to take into consideration next time I tweak?

As for the MDMA, well I think I've wrapped my head around it- stick to 30mg, ingested orally for good results? I really want to avoid the annoying one hour come up, which is uncomfortable and gets in the way of my partying. But this stuff just seems to be so strong.
 
I think the bigger picture here is the meth use; that shit is bad news in my experience. It is equally taxing to your brain as MDMA, only on your dopamine pathways instead of serotonin. You are burning out two of your brain's most important systems to function normally and help you feel good in day to day life.

MDMA is advised to be taken at most 3-4 times a year, perhaps you can break this rule once in a while and roll with perhaps a 1 month break. It is extremely ill advised to take MDMA two days in a row, much less THREE! I only speak out of Love for my fellow humankind, but you gotta slow your roll.

As for your original point, yes, piracetam is a pretty cool nootropic, and it has been anectdotally shown (in myself as well as many others online and in my circle) to reduce tolerance to/diminish side effects of/enhance pleasurable aspects of many different psychoactives, from caffeine to LSD. I enjoy aniracetam the most. However, these nootropics will only take you so far; it is up to you to care about yourself, ie eating right, exercising, and moderating drug intake.
 
Thanks, I'm pretty aware about the risks associated with drug use...I guess I'm just irresponsible. Normally I don't do MDMA three days in a row; last weekend was a bit of a strange event. But I do know I've been using BK-mdma too much, probably fooling myself to believe its okay since its nowhere near as strong as mdma.

Would the side affects not be as ample if i'm using such small doses? Because for instance a normal person uses 100-250mg of mdma in one night during the course of one month. but if I use 30mg doses say twice in one month, wouldn't that be just as safe?

I guess I was just so shocked as these doses seemed miniscule to what I was used to...and the effects were so strong. I began to even consider that maybe what I had wasn't mdma.

But alas, I just wanted to see how other people had found piracetam to effect their rolls.

As for the meth use, that's a very rare thing for me. But I want to make sure I'm being safe with my doses next time I use.
 
'meth was a thing that once she first try was once a blue moon; now once a blue sky'
 
jess046 said:
Would the side affects not be as ample if i'm using such small doses? Because for instance a normal person uses 100-250mg of mdma in one night during the course of one month. but if I use 30mg doses say twice in one month, wouldn't that be just as safe?
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even though a 30mg dose isnt really depleteing all your serotonin, the problem is that it takes the entire serotonin system about a month to go back to baseline. if you keep flooding it every 2 weeks, it just keeps getting more and more down-regulated. you may not notice this for quite some time as the doses are so low, but it will catch up sooner or later. if you keep your rolls spaced properly, you can happily roll for the rest of your life.
 
I'm still intrigued as to whether having such low doses would be a way to avoid any bad damage to receptors. If it would be enough time for the receptors to prepare since they're not being as down-regulated. I guess I'll never know and it's not really worth the chance.

I would really appreciate if people stopped trying to warn me about meth on this thread. This isn't about meth use and those kind of comments are pretty useless. I am aware of the risks involved with meth, I don't need anymore unhelpful remarks.
 
cryptix420 said:
^ it's a harm reduction forum, get used to it



why in the world would i want to do that? i like california
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There's no need to be obnoxious. I am pretty aware of the risks associated with meth, as are most regular drug users. I didn't come here seeking insight about those risks, although information on how to reduce harmful consequences would be much more useful than strangers trying to stop strangers from doing something they will most likely do anyway. If you want to promote harm reduction on a drug forum, that's really your best option. Most of us are here because we are users and want to share and receive useful information.
 
It seems Piracetam is the miracle drug - what concerns me is if you're cranking your brain up this hard, is there any longterm problems with piracetam + MDMA? I am great believer in that you can't get something for nothing out of your brain.
 
Jess I have also noticed a tolerance shift. I recently acquired piracetam in part to see how it'd interact in this manner. I have been taking a gram a day (half of what most people do) and have found myself able to get going on 1/2 to 1/4 the amount that my friends will take when we go to shows. I have been enticed day after day to roll a couple days in a row, but I try and maximize it at twice a month. I always post-load with 5htp and a bunch of vitamins.
 
Woah this may sound like a miracle for me. I have tried so hard to roll, but have never really gotten what I wanted. I have felt nice, empathetic, and energetic, but I wouldn't really call it a roll. I have taken up to 500-600mg of MDMA in a night (yes, it is this much I am sure about it!), and barely rolled. If I preload on Piracetam, take the serotonin supplements, stay healthy, and wait at least a month after the last roll, I should be good I hope. I'll try 200mg to start, with 100mg more each hour up to three hours. Let's add into the mix 300mg of M1 just for the hell of it and I can see myself having a fun night!

Does anyone think this will actually work?? I am tired of spending all of this money on e.
 
Higher doses don't necessarily make you higher. My best rolls ever have been off 80-100mg, because my tolerance was low. In fact high doses increase the unpleasant side effects.
 
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