Heroin My partner had about 8 seizures about 5 mins after shot.

[the_ketaman]

I nor my partner had ever had seizures before. He's used heroin for around 2 years.
Yesterday I IV'd around 0.13 of highly pure white heroin. My partner had 0.04 and 5 mins later began to have intense and very serious seizures that I think we're Grand Mal. He's NEVER had this happen before.
I thought my soulmate was having a stroke and dying. I was in shock.

But point being. I've never heard of smack causing seizures. And that's the only drug he'd used in weeks.
Poor bubba is shaken up.

 

[Halif2]

Well, that's terrifying. I hope your man is OK now.

How did the shot feel to you? Like normal H? Was there anything different feeling about it? It'd be interesting to take a sample of it to the new testing site, just to see if there was any contaminant in there.

Anyway, hopefully your partner has seen a doctor now, because seizures out of nowhere does not bode well and H is probably the last drug I'd expect to cause seizures.

 

[canadianpeduser]

That’s crazy. Hopefully there’s no xylazine or some fucked up shit like that in there. Not that I’ve heard of xylazine causing seizures but the street drugs have become more and more dirty over the years I’ve found. Coming from a guy who used to be able to get pretty much pure anything

 

[Tronica]

I nor my partner had ever had seizures before. He's used heroin for around 2 years.
Yesterday I IV'd around 0.13 of highly pure white heroin. My partner had 0.04 and 5 mins later began to have intense and very serious seizures that I think we're Grand Mal. He's NEVER had this happen before.
I thought my soulmate was having a stroke and dying. I was in shock.

But point being. I've never heard of smack causing seizures. And that's the only drug he'd used in weeks.
Poor bubba is shaken up.

Hey I know I'm months late to this comment, but I wonder in what jurisdiction you are in (or which jurisdiction the drugs were sourced from). as I heard some other stories of seizures following heroin when in a meeting about drug trends in Australia, and could share what happened to your partner there too, and see what info I can get back about what people think it is.

My hunch is that there could be nitazenes in heroin in some parts of Australia, but without analytic testing, it's impossible to know if that's actually the case.

 

[Halif2]

My hunch is that there could be nitazenes in heroin in some parts of Australia

Are there links between nitazenes and seizures?

In any case, people need to be more careful than ever. Melbourne H has been pretty great and I hope it stays that way.

 

[Chaurus]

Can you get the heroin tested?

'Highly pure white heroin' my ass!

Tramadol is infamous for being known to cause seizures and is used as a pain killer.

 

[4DQSAR]

Are there links between nitazenes and seizures?

In any case, people need to be more careful than ever. Melbourne H has been pretty great and I hope it stays that way.

Nobody knows. While Ciba did synthesize and test quite a few member of the class, we are seeing homologues which don't appear to have been syntheized before, let alone tested.

What I can say is that a few reports mention people cycling between nodding out and being stimulated. Of course, nobody can say what homologue that was.

Compared to the fentanyl class, almost no research on the class took place after Ciba's initial effort. So it's a far more hazardous class of compound because we know so little.

BTW I'm not engaging in 'I told you so' but for a long time I have repeated that there are DOZENS of classes of highly potent opioid that were patented and then mostly forgotten. So whenever the Chinese government finally stops the production of nitazenes, they will have the next one ready to go and it's very likely to be even worse. If the fentanyl epidemic in the US isn't bad enough for them to contemplate making such things legal, I doubt the nitazenes will. Which is insanity.

 

[the_ketaman]

We found out it was just an overdose and not a seizure but it certainly looked liked a seizure to me.

He had the shot. The first time it took about 5 minutes before the incident happened. We had it, he was fine, we started driving then at a roundabout his eyes rolled back and he became unresponsive along with twitching and shaking. It didn't stop and I called and ambulance. It didn't stop until he got to hospital but I was told there were no vital signs reported until he recovered.

It was extremely stressful and scary.

The second time it happened almost immediately. He was clearly shaking, narcan helped quickly. But it was fucked up!!!
He'd never had a seizure before. Ambulance was called. He'd recovered by then. But this time was much more serious. He'd stopped breathing, the shaking was much more pronounced. It was terrifying both times and we went to a specialist afterwards.

I'm from the far northern Sydney area. We have, as far as I know never had a problem with nitazenes or at least in the drugs I'm taking.
I know it comes up in other drugs and heroin in sure but it didn't happen to me(though I have a significantly higher tolerance than he does, like x5 at least)
We are both on Buprenorphine currently to curb out use and this incident basically was the catalyst for the bupe.
The second time I thought he was dead at one point. I was ready to kill myself once I knew he was dead as I really can't live without this man. He's my hero, soulmate, other half and the love I can't live without. Thank God my mum thought quickly and narcanned him. He slowly, slowly came back and he is ok. But never again!!!!!!

 

[4DQSAR]

Ah, OK - I don't think you mentioned naloxone reversing the effects before.

Now ALL opioids have the potential to lower a person's seizure threshold but as I said, nitazene just adds an extra level of risk.

Sad to say, the (to me) insanely high prices heroin sells for in Australasia must make nitazenes an extremely attractive product to the sort of distributor who doesn't really care about the end user (which is 100% of the ones I've met). Now I suggest users were spared the horrors of fentanyl simply because there is no crossover between Mexico and your drug market. But as far as I can tell, nitazenes are being produced in China and while your boarder force does an impressively good job, that's simply going to favour the most potent nitazenes.

Never forget, the prototype nitazene, etonitazene is some x1500 morphine (in animal models) and when it turned up in Russia during the 90s (китайский карлик), it killed a lot of users. It seems unpredictable which I suggest might be one reason Ciba gave up on it.

But maybe this is a good thing? Maybe it's time to just stop. While you are both OK.

 

[the_ketaman]

^^This happened twice. Once after this post in which he was narcanned and the first time he wasn't.

We are both on buvidal atm and this incident is what sparked that decision. I never want to experience that again!

 

[4DQSAR]

We are both on buvidal atm and this incident is what sparked that decision. I never want to experience that again!

Well, I can't tell you how to live your lives but I checked and seizures caused by heroin are extremely unusual. If it happened twice, it's very likely to happen again (all other things being equal).

 

[Phobos]

^^This happened twice. Once after this post in which he was narcanned and the first time he wasn't.

We are both on buvidal atm and this incident is what sparked that decision. I never want to experience that again!

I've had a few grand mal seizures in my life, did a medical professional tell you anything about what to be aware of after having seizures?

My balance was negatively affected for several weeks after a seizure not sure if that's universal but I think it's worth to check if his sense of balance is alright at home before he does something he's done before and exposes himself to the risk of a bad fall.