my mind thinks im on lsd when i take mdma ?? explanations?

[sabbyeena]

Basically, i took lsd for the first time at a squat rave. All my friends starting to see the visual effects before me (although this may be because they had done lsd before so their brains were accustomed to it) so i got impatient and after an hour all i felt was kind of wobbly so i double dropped two pretty strong ecstacy pills. i came up on the pills and it was sooo intense, probably the highest ive ever been, it was so insane, then during my peak i did a pretty big line of ketamine and then after about ten minutes everything started to go wrong. i started to feel really really worried about my temperature and i looked at my hands and they looked as if they were inflating like i was puffing up, i started freaking out about all sorts- the euphoria of the pills was long gone! the anxiety escallated and after about three minutes i actually thought i was gonna die, it was horrible. luckily an experienced mate was near by and sat me down and calmed me down and soon i was in a happy place again, then the rest of the trip was wonderful- all happy and colourful and beautiful.. but i will never forget those 20 minutes of hell! then, the next night i took two bombs of just mdma (this is like the 3rd time on mdma) and it was just mdma, id come down off the lsd (well i thought i had) but as soon as the mdma hit me i just started having some intense psychedelic trip. sure i felt the euphoria and intense energy of the mdma, but i also saw colours and diamonds and spirals all over the sky and everybodys faces were all swirly and i couldnt walk properly i was wobbling everywhere.. it was like sooo much more psychedelic than when i had actually been on lsd the night before... why on earth is this??? anywayy, i thought it was just a one off or something but then the next weekend i took one bomb of mdma (not mixed with anything) and the same thing happened except it was not like psychedelic there were no colours but i experienced the feelings of lsd, like i felt like an outsider and i felt that nothing was really real (you kno how you get on lsd) ..sure there was the energy of the mdma but i felt more as if i was on lsd.. bad thing is, this time i also kept freaking out like that horrible 20mins the first time id done lsd..like id be all happy and then suddenly i just started panicking about little weird shit exactly the same way i had done on the lsd the weekend before... so yeah, why the fuck is this??? mdma has always been the one drug i can completely rely on to make me purely euphoric but now it is giving me psychedelics and weird panic attacks ?? :/ why is this and how can i prevent it ???

 

[SecondPull]

A lot of people, including myself, have had pretty strong anxiety/panic reactions when combining LSD and MDMA. It sounds like a combination of things--you had an anxiety-provoking experience while on the combination, so there's now kind of an association in your mind between a psychedelic mindset and anxiety. Also, because you've dropped MDMA multiple times without much of a break in between, you're probably experiencing some serotonin depletion--this will blunt the euphoric effects of the MDMA and possibly contribute to your feelings of discomfort/anxiety.

Take a break for a month or two and I bet things will settle down.

 

[Liquid Sunshine]

I don't know necessarily if this was your mistake, but I have seen so many people get ripped out of their skulls on LSD, and be completely unaware of it mostly because of a lack of OEV's. I'm guilty of it myself at least once. You just overdid it. That really does sound like a difficult experience.

 

[Deleted member 81238]

mdma is not a true psychedelic. mdma is hallucinaogenic, but not true-ly psychedelic. mdma sex,lies, and video-tape. LSD was not a mistake. *-wink-*

 

[nopipesdfw]

^ Hallucinogens encompass psychedelics, dissociatives, and deleriants.

MDMA is most surely psychedelic, it hits the generic 5ht receptors to an extent along with all of the other stuff it does.

 

[citysmog]

For one thing you should take a break from using mdma for a while, taking breaks is important so you can keep the magic and so you don't fry your brain. Also, I think what you took is a large dose of mda not mdma, or atleast it sounds like it.

 

[heythatsmybike]

Did you think about the part where you snorted k, whilst on acid. This combo scares the shit out of most people I know. I've only done it once and caused me to have reoccuring anxiety panic attacks for at least two weeks. LSD and MDMA work on the same area of thebrain so as everyone else has said, take a god damn break you animal

 

[sabbyeena]

to citysmog: what is mda??
to heythatsmybike: yesss i was thinking about that myself, i think maybe it was the ket that brought out the visual tripping in the acid and kinda brought it out in a darker way which is why i started freaking out.. also considering it was my first drop of acid i think i also started freaking out cos id never had anythin like that before and it all just happened suddenly.. so yehh i do think k played a part in the whole negative side

but yeh, thanks for the advice everyone i probably should just have a rest from the mandy!

 

[nopipesdfw]

MDMA, Ketamine, and LSD are quite the psychedelics in my book, regardless of random word spitting upon them lulz. (label as you please!)

For your first time that is nuts, MDMA + k + LSD is something I have been able to try myself and read plenty of reports on erowid to verify the synergy in mental and sensory alterations that should have ideally been expected.