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my grandmother wants to try pot...
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I recommend it.. but honestly.. start with half a gram of mids lol.. work your way up because half a gram should DEFINATELY help her without leaving her TOO stoned but if not just go up to a gram like normal..
and this is because of the risks of heart attack and extreme freakouts as noted before, it is much stronger orally than smoked.. so be careful!
and this is because of the risks of heart attack and extreme freakouts as noted before, it is much stronger orally than smoked.. so be careful!
40ozTOfreedom
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Perhaps low dose Leary Biscuits, or Milk. You can use exact measurements for every dose, and gauge accordingly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leary_biscuit
Oh as for the ethics part... I've helped give my best friends grandmother pot. She has constant pain from a very bad fall about 5 years ago. She said it helped the pain drastically, and I don't see why that would make me a bad person, just because my gov't keeps it illegal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leary_biscuit
Oh as for the ethics part... I've helped give my best friends grandmother pot. She has constant pain from a very bad fall about 5 years ago. She said it helped the pain drastically, and I don't see why that would make me a bad person, just because my gov't keeps it illegal.
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I'd go for it! A few things...
1) I think smoking is a bad idea because the discomfort in the chest is sometimes a starting point for anxiety. Eating it should take care of this.
2) She can get Xanax! I don't see any problems with anxiety getting through that...
3) She wants to do it! As long as she understands that her perception of things will change, she is in a good mindset for trying marijuana.
I'd be sure to not use low quality green, because that generally gives more of the bad effects and less of the good.
1) I think smoking is a bad idea because the discomfort in the chest is sometimes a starting point for anxiety. Eating it should take care of this.
2) She can get Xanax! I don't see any problems with anxiety getting through that...
3) She wants to do it! As long as she understands that her perception of things will change, she is in a good mindset for trying marijuana.
I'd be sure to not use low quality green, because that generally gives more of the bad effects and less of the good.
Blowmonkey
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Seriously. Do NOT use it orally. You simply cannot do that because you have no way of tritrating the dosage effectively, it's too risky. The ONLY sane way for her to use it orally is through the use of marinol or sativex.
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^What if he ate the same dose of the same marijuana he was going to give her (from the same batch) before giving it to her? It seems to me that he would then know exactly how strong the "goods" would be beforehand...
Please explain if I am missing something.
Please explain if I am missing something.
Blowmonkey
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BollWeevil said:
I'll tell you that you're assuming that everyone has the same tolerance, which is obviously not the case. Everyone reacts differently with pot. The best way to find out how you'll react is by smoking it, best to titrate a dosage, quickest to dissipate, not as intense as oral weed. That about sums it up.
BollWeevil said:
First i am sure the OP has a tolerance, which granny will not. Second, the first time can be quite psychedelic, so being able to take 1 or 2 drags, and evaluating is crucial.
If from there she enjoys, then maybe oral will be ok.
With someone of her age i think safety is key. It may be uncomfortable, but temporary discomfort is better than 4 or 5 hours of discomfort
Blowmonkey
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That'd be ideal, but try and get it into a nursing home.
wesmdow
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ok well, change of plans.
i got arrested over the weekend (in my journal if anyones interested), and sadly couldnt make it to visit her.
i concur that giving it to her orally is risky--but i cannot think of another reasonable method of administration. she is in a full-on nursing home, complete with a nursing staff and a roomate.
aside from all that, she tried smoking pot once before and couldnt deal with the pain of the smoke. this is the reason she never tried it again.
there are also smoke detectors in the rooms.
she is far too weak to get up and leave or toke outside of the nursing home, however, while i was in jail my dad brought her over to our house for the day, which (had i not been in JAIL) would have done her a world of good.
i talked with my dad about it...
i am thinking that she should get stoned here in the comfort of my house, surrounded by loving family, and after a nice healthy dose of xanax to keep her calm.
my dad likes this idea as well. she is losing a pound per day--all of the calories she consumes are JUST enough to continue to feed her cancer, according to the drs. she MUST consume more calories, or death is not far off.
i am extremely apprehensious of a bad trip. this probably be the worst thing in the entire world that i could do-- my entire family would CRUCIFY me if they found out. (we have substance abuse issues in my family..)
we do not have the $650 to spend on a vaporizor. she cannot smoke.
its oral or nothing, right?
i got arrested over the weekend (in my journal if anyones interested), and sadly couldnt make it to visit her.
i concur that giving it to her orally is risky--but i cannot think of another reasonable method of administration. she is in a full-on nursing home, complete with a nursing staff and a roomate.
aside from all that, she tried smoking pot once before and couldnt deal with the pain of the smoke. this is the reason she never tried it again.
there are also smoke detectors in the rooms.
she is far too weak to get up and leave or toke outside of the nursing home, however, while i was in jail my dad brought her over to our house for the day, which (had i not been in JAIL) would have done her a world of good.
i talked with my dad about it...
i am thinking that she should get stoned here in the comfort of my house, surrounded by loving family, and after a nice healthy dose of xanax to keep her calm.
my dad likes this idea as well. she is losing a pound per day--all of the calories she consumes are JUST enough to continue to feed her cancer, according to the drs. she MUST consume more calories, or death is not far off.
i am extremely apprehensious of a bad trip. this probably be the worst thing in the entire world that i could do-- my entire family would CRUCIFY me if they found out. (we have substance abuse issues in my family..)
we do not have the $650 to spend on a vaporizor. she cannot smoke.
its oral or nothing, right?
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also, what if i was to test my cookies on a willing, non-tolerant person? im sure my mom would volunteer to be the guinea pig in this situation....she has a GENERAL drug tolerance comperable to my grandmother. 1 hit of pot fucks her up BAD.
...so if i could dose my mom correctly, maybe i could use that to my advantage?
this whole situation makes me very nervous (especially with my newfound, pending legal troubles) and i DONT WANNA FUCK UP ANY MORE!!!
..but then i see such potential.. it could really go either way.
i suppose the decision is ultimately up to her... shes a grown woman.
...so if i could dose my mom correctly, maybe i could use that to my advantage?
this whole situation makes me very nervous (especially with my newfound, pending legal troubles) and i DONT WANNA FUCK UP ANY MORE!!!
..but then i see such potential.. it could really go either way.
i suppose the decision is ultimately up to her... shes a grown woman.
Xorkoth
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^^ Because it hurt her too much the one time she tried and she's sick with cancer. Combusting plant tars and reaction products are not a very good idea, IMO.
Only the Volcano is really expensive, and even it isn't quite that much. A good vapor box style vaporizer is only about $150, or less if you find one on sale or a used one. It takes a bit of practice to hit right, but it's completely smooth and also, in my experience, vaporizing eliminates the anxiety.
wesmdow said:
Only the Volcano is really expensive, and even it isn't quite that much. A good vapor box style vaporizer is only about $150, or less if you find one on sale or a used one. It takes a bit of practice to hit right, but it's completely smooth and also, in my experience, vaporizing eliminates the anxiety.
Blowmonkey
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I'll say it again, if you want to let her try oral cannabis, go for the marinol or sativex, I wouldn't try it any other way.
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My vaporizer cost $120. That's my recommendation, if you say she can make it to your home have her try that.
If not, possibly water filtration? Bubblers are nice, and easier than a bong. But it still may be harsh for someone a bit older.
The last thing you want is for her to be stuck in a state of fear and anxiety from an oral dose, so if you can, definitely try to get her to smoke. Tell her she doesn't have to hold it in too long, just a few seconds. She ought to feel it, and if not, she can always take a few more baby hits. Be sure to have some water on hand.
Let us know how this goes! I read an article somewhere about a 100+ year old woman who attributes her long life to cannabis, so I don't think it should have any adverse effects based on age.
EDIT: Here it is... unsure of the Sun's credibility. Take it as is: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006560113,00.html
If not, possibly water filtration? Bubblers are nice, and easier than a bong. But it still may be harsh for someone a bit older.
The last thing you want is for her to be stuck in a state of fear and anxiety from an oral dose, so if you can, definitely try to get her to smoke. Tell her she doesn't have to hold it in too long, just a few seconds. She ought to feel it, and if not, she can always take a few more baby hits. Be sure to have some water on hand.
Let us know how this goes! I read an article somewhere about a 100+ year old woman who attributes her long life to cannabis, so I don't think it should have any adverse effects based on age.
EDIT: Here it is... unsure of the Sun's credibility. Take it as is: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006560113,00.html
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wesmdow
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im really really nervous about the implications heavy coughing could entail.
i think i will present the facts to her and let her choose between oral and smoked cannabis.
i cant afford a vaporizer, my parents dont even allow me to have a bong in their house, let alone a vaporizer, and at this point i feel the need to respect their wishes in this regard.
i think friday will be the day.
i think i will present the facts to her and let her choose between oral and smoked cannabis.
i cant afford a vaporizer, my parents dont even allow me to have a bong in their house, let alone a vaporizer, and at this point i feel the need to respect their wishes in this regard.
i think friday will be the day.
If you know for sure what your own dose is for oral consumption, you might want to very carefully titrate up from an extremely low dose over the course of days. For example, you could give her 1/16 of your dose. See how she does with it. If she feels no effects, then increase to 1/8 of your dose. Etc. But be patient.
I agree with Blowmonkey that it's quite a risk to take that she could be fucked for 6 hours on too high a dose. That's not a pleasant experience for anyone of any age. It would be better to use a vaporizer, but if that's not in the picture and you for sure are going the oral route, then is there any reason why you can't take several days to figure out her dosage?
I agree with Blowmonkey that it's quite a risk to take that she could be fucked for 6 hours on too high a dose. That's not a pleasant experience for anyone of any age. It would be better to use a vaporizer, but if that's not in the picture and you for sure are going the oral route, then is there any reason why you can't take several days to figure out her dosage?
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^that is an awsome idea. i dont want to trouble her with it tho..
meaning i dont want her to think there is anything to worry about, and id imagine that if she saw me being that careful with the dose, she would get very nervous and it could prove problematic.
i think ill try the test on my mother (she volunteered today like i thought she would) and when i figure out a good dose ill try a slightly smaller one on my grandma.
meaning i dont want her to think there is anything to worry about, and id imagine that if she saw me being that careful with the dose, she would get very nervous and it could prove problematic.
i think ill try the test on my mother (she volunteered today like i thought she would) and when i figure out a good dose ill try a slightly smaller one on my grandma.