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My Ex-BF died last Thursday and I need answers

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We lived together for 3 years and being a recovering addict myself, I couldn't deal with his drug use. He would do coke (we used together once and he was so paranoid that I never did it again with or without him) ecstasy and had a regular weed habit. He was a heavy cigarette smoker and had high blood pressure (looking back now I am sure it was from continued drug usage). From the beginning of our relationship he was angry all the time, physically violent and very verbally abusive. He always sweated profusely and had a weird body odor. I could never understand why he was nice one minute and then flipping out saying I was mumbling under my breath when I had never said a word, the next. After I kicked him out of my house we remained best friends, just no romantic involvement.

I have noticed over the last few months he was complaining more and more about severe headaches, stomach cramps, rectal bleeding, although he was overweight his face started to look somewhat sunken in, not bad but noticeable to me. He had not lost any weight and didn't eat well nor did he drink water, it was always soda. His chest was really congested and his breathing was heavy like someone with COPD. He would cough until he turned purple and would get lightheaded almost to the point of passing out.

I saw him on Saturday and he was being super nice. He was at a friends house working on motorcycles and not one time did he get frustrated or flip out like he typically would. He told his friend he was on acid but his movements were quick, he was talkative and upbeat and his hands were a bit shaky. He told me he would be by the house early Sunday to pick me up to go fishing. He never showed up which was normal so I went on my own and when I got home Sunday afternoon I tried calling him and his phone was off. I decided to go by his house around 6pm. When I knocked he didn't immediately open the door. I noticed 2 of his blinds were cut on his front window where he could peek out of it and see outside but all the windows were covered with dark curtains. After banging on the door and calling his name he finally answered it and I could tell something wasn't right. His face was reallllly red and I asked what was wrong and he said he had a severe headache and had been trying to sleep it off but his neighbors had been working on their car all day and he kept being wakened by them honking the horn. Come to find out he had helped those said neighbors work on their car the day before (Saturday). His pupils weren't dilated, but rather constricted and he was a bit sweaty. The temp in his apartment was 70 degrees. He seemed a little disoriented and when I made him plug his phone in and turn it on I noticed he was shaking pretty bad. He looked at his phone a couple of times and couldn't figure out how to check his call log so he put the phone down. I asked him what he was on and at first he said nothing. I knew he was on something so I pressed him and he said he took a hit of acid at 10pm the night before. I asked him if he had a bad trip and he said no he just thought it was cut with too much stricnine (sp?) I asked if he needed me to take him to the hospital and he said no he was going to take a shower and sleep it off. Of course I did a little lecturing and hung out for approx. 20 minutes. I should have known better than to leave but I was angry at him for using.

Anytime I have caught him using in the past he would avoid me for several days to give me time to cool down and then he would come back around and promise to never do it again. I tried calling him every day, several times a day and didn't get an answer so I assumed it was just going to take him a little more time. On Thursday morning during my prayer time I felt the need to go by and check on him again so after working that morning I left early for lunch and went by to find his vehicle hadn't been moved since I was there on Sunday. In my heart I knew what I was going to find. I knocked on his door and no answer but I could smell decomposition through the door. I called 911 and upon them entering his apartment they found him in the bathroom, wedged between the toilet and bathtub, face up and head turned to the left. The pictures on his wall in the bathroom were knocked onto the floor, his toilet seat was down, he was in the same boxers I saw him in on Sunday and his shorts and tshirt were underneath him. After going into his apartment and observing everything I know he died not long after I left. I checked his phone log and there were no calls made or received and my text message to him was the last one on his phone. We did not find any drugs other than his marijuana and no pariphanalia (sp?)

After doing some investigation on my own, I learned that he had used coke back at the end of Feb. Then a few weeks ago he bought an 8 ball of coke. The last 2 weeks he bought $75 worth of meth. From what I have been told that is about 1.5 grams. I have no idea how much that is but I have been told it is a lot. I do know that he bought meth on either Friday night or Saturday night. And he told me he had bought the acid. Somehow I don't think he actually bought the acid, it was just a lie to throw me off as to what he was really doing. I found his bed stripped of all his sheets and his blankets were in the washer and dryer.

Looking back now I see the big picture and I am sure his addiction was far worse than what I will ever know but I have no experience with meth. Here are my questions

1. Have you ever watched someone die from a meth overdose? what was it like?
2. Is there anything I could have done different to save him?
3. What was he likely to be thinking or feeling and was it a painful death?
4. Could 1.5 grams over a 24-48hr period be fatal or would he have had to taken more, or a combo of drugs?
5. Does this sound like a meth overdose or could it have been coke?

We wont have the autopsy report with toxicology back for 6-8 weeks and I need answers now. His method of ingestion was snorting as far as I know. I have never seen needle marks and I have never seen an indication of smoking it unless he smoked it in his marijuana.

Any answers you can give will be super helpful. I don't want anything sugar coated. I was in his apartment for 7 hours after they removed his body and I will never forget the smell. If I can handle that I know I can handle the details of what his last ride was like. Thank you for taking the time to read and respond.
 
Hello NAN,

Nice to meet you, but I am so sorry for the circumstances that have brought you here.

Before you ever mentioned meth in the post, I thought to myself that it sounded more like he was on meth than acid. I think he probably just lied about that, to throw you off like you said.

I'm afraid I cannot really give you answers to your questions, except for #2:

"2. Is there anything I could have done different to save him?"

No.

Your description of his personality reminds me in many ways of my husband. The anger, the violence... I watch him drink himself to death. Nothing I say gets through to him, at least not deeply enough to make him stop.

The thing is, when someone is hell bent on self-destruction, you cannot make them do anything. you can only - maybe - make them think.

And even then, they have to be the one to decide to stop, or at least slow down.

You cannot save anyone from themself.

I am SO sorry to hear all of this. I know your heart must be so heavy, and you must have a million different emotions and thoughts running around through your mind.

The part that broke my heart the most was when you said you went to check on him that last time, and you...knew. You knew in your heart what was going to be found. I am so sorry. That is such an awful feeling.

I have not touched meth in YEARS. There were a few years in my youth where I did it daily. I can tell you, it is the NASTIEST drug I have known. It is pure poison - literally. It is so toxic.

I would tell anyone who will listen to NEVER TOUCH THE SH!T.

I wish I could offer you more definite answers to more of your questions. I can only offer you a definite answer for #2, which is that, again, you cannot save anyone from themself. THEY have to save themself. Sadly. It would be so nice if we could, wouldn't it? I know...

Back when I was into it, I didn't really know much about grams and measurments and all of that. I know $75 was a good amount; it was over a decade ago that I messed with meth though, I have no idea how prices are now.

Meth is incredibly dirty and toxic... those I have known on it find themselves in bad shape FAST because of this fact. They don't eat or sleep while on it. I used to make SURE I slept...I would stop using at a certain point in the day so I could get 8 hours of sleep. If I had not done that, and made sure I ate, I am POSITIVE it would have been much worse for me. I ended up using so much, that (this is from research, I was never diagnosed by a professional) I began to have delusions....capgras delusion is the name for what I experienced, where I thought my boyfriend at the time was an imposter - looked like him, felt like him...but somehow felt like an imposter to me. I knew that had to be insane, but knowing that did not remove the paranoia for me. I became convinced someone was after me as well. I now know this was likely a form of drug-induced schizophrenia, likely from a MASSIVE amount of dopamine in my brain (as meth produces more dopamine; coke acts more like an antidepressant does, by recycling the dopamine you have. I would think that meth plus coke would be a TERRIBLE combination for these reasons, so if he was doing both, that could very well have been what did it.)

So, meth is an incredibly dangerous drug, and can cause massive health problems... if he did not eat and drink water, and if he did not sleep, and if he was already in bad shape, then I feel it could easily have taken him. You said he had developed an awful cough - he may have also been smoking it. It can be smoked from a glass pipe, and off of foil. Though it is odd that more paraphenalia was not found... maybe he was getting high elsewhere?

Again, sorry I do not have more definitive answers for you. I just wanted to offer support, and tell you what I do know about the drug.

I hope you will take VERY good care of yourself. Please be well, and do not slip out of sobriety.

Know that he knows you care, and that you love him.

And know that there was nothing you could have done.

Peace.
 
I cant tell you how much peace your post has brought me. It made everything make sense in so many ways. Looking back I now know that when we were first together and did "coke" together, it wasn't coke at all. He was always tweeked out.... jittery hand movements, quick to fly into a rage, so paranoid.... He was probably using the majority of the time and I just didn't realize it. Then there were times when his bottom lip would crack right down the middle and never heal... I am sure he was smoking it then. How could I have not realized? I think maybe I did but was in denial.....

The funeral home just called and his ashes are ready for me to pick up.... My mom is going to drive me and I am going to spend tonight praying and go do something good for someone tomorrow. If you are ever on Facebook look up "Eyes on Mr. Stuckey".... He is a pretty awesome man. I think I am going to find him and spend some time with him.

Thank you again, especially for your honesty. I WILL NOT USE and I WILL CONTINUE TO BE SOBER! Thank you again and again!
 
Hey NAN-

Wow, thank you so much for your kind words :)

I didn't really think my post would be all that helpful, to be honest. I am so glad it was, that makes me feel good :)

One more thing popped into my head, after re-reading some symptoms you described...I wonder if he was ingesting it. I did that a few times...the last time I did that, oh GOD, never again. That crap just destroys your stomach. Your descriptions of rectal bleeding, stomach cramps... Of course when you snort it, it will drip down the throat as well, and some will reach the stomach that way, too. But, it's possible he was ingesting it, especially if he found he was having too much trouble snorting or smoking it.

How are you holding up today, girl?

I know this is difficult beyond words. Please take very good care of yourself. Feel what you need to feel, and do healthy things for yourself to cope.

I LOVED what you said SO MUCH:
"I am going to spend tonight praying and go do something good for someone tomorrow."

I just loved that so much :)

You have got the right idea, chica :) And he would LOVE that :)

If you ever need to talk, I'm around. As newbies I don't think we can PM yet, but we can email, as long as you have checked off "receive emails from members".

Peace.
 
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Today was a wonderful day. I drove almost 500 miles. Went a met this neat man Michael Stuckey and he is so honest, loving and caring. Then I went and saw a few friends that like out of town. I will hopefully get to go fishing tomorrow, off for the weekend and back to the grind on Monday!
 
Awesome!

Sounds like you're keeping yourself busy and connected with people who care - excellent! Keep up the good work!

If you have some difficult moments, reach out here and/or elsewhere... and stay strong :-)

You will get through this.

Keep us updated!

Peace.
 
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