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my come down nightmare and using xanax. NEED HELP HERE.....

pmz

pmz

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So its been 7 weeks since I took the molly(tested using a bunk police kit) that ruined my life. I consumed a bit more that I should have (almost a gram) 2 days in a row and since then I have had the worst anxiety non stop every day. Its been crippling anxiety that comes on all day long. My heart wants to pound out of its chest and I cant sleep or think about anything good during the day. I saw a Psyc and he gave me a script of Xanax. Im concerned that taking xanax will only prolong the recovery time, yet as of now I cannot go a day with out taking it. I also have other symptoms. My tongue has an odd tingling feeling to it most of the day and I definitely have that stupefied slow computer of a brain feeling to me. Its really the anxiety thats the worst part.

Since the first week of my anxiety attacks ive been taking xanax, which has been 7 weeks ago. I dont know if I still have anxiety because of the mdma or if I have developed a dependency. The anxiety is nearly constant. Ive been able to slowely take control of it through meditation, but that is very very hard to battle with out the xanax.

I have a huge fear of causing my self some kind of brain damage. I cant imagine how much longer I can live with this anxiety.

Does anyone think taking Xanax through this is a bad idea? I dont know what else to do. I cant even get sleep most of the nights. and Ill wake up to an anxiety attack.

I live with my parents. Im not sure If I should talk to them about this or even what doctor I should go see.

any advice will be helpful.
 
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In the long term the xanax wont help. From my own personal experience the benzos make your sleep problems worse and although in the short term they make you feel better I dont beleive benzos aid recovery on any level and in many cases make things a lot worse.

Also benzos are highly addictive and if you have been taking them for over 3 weeks you run risk of physical dependance and once this sets in things can be worse than getting off heroin.

Re talking to your parents it is very difficult to comment as I dont know your parents but most users on here report positive results when they discuss things with their parents. What you dont want to do in this very vulnerable time is get chucked out of your house as you need all the support you can get so only you can really be the judge if this is right or wrong.

Re going to see a doctor my experience with MDMA related problems and doctors has been a total waste of time. I swear to you there is more information on this site 10 fold than any doctor will tell you about MDMA abuse. By all means visit the doctor or psychiatrist but 9/10 they will prescribe benzos or antidepressants and unfortunately neither will help much.

Advice - You need to exercise as much as you can this will help your brain reach an equilibrium. Eat well check out some of the information on some of the anxiety websites about high tryptophan diets.

Consider some suppliments do your own research but I would recommend 5HTP, Vit C and Omega 3 or Krill Oil 3 times a day. You could also look at a product called Neurozan which has 5htp in it plus other goodies for the brain.

Re the anxiety this needs to be hit head on. You need to fight it and try and live life as normally as possible despite how you feel. Anxiety is a kind of fixed loop your mind gets in and the only way out is best to ignore it and in the end it fades away.

All this is going to take time. 1G is a hefty and ill advised dose the serotonin reserves take quite a while to rebuild and patience is what is required. It wont be easy but in the end you will recover it just takes time.

Re the brain damage this is unlikely you are of a young enough age to bounce back. Unfortunately the anxiety you are feeling feeds off this negativity so the best advice here is to zap this idea and keep repeating to yourself I will be fine I just need to recover. Dont dwell on the past dont keep drudging through google trying to find out about symptoms and 99% of it is in your anxiety fueled mind.

Good luck my friend I know what place you are in and its not nice. I hope this helps in some way :)

One other thing for sleep you could try melatonin this is much friendlier on the body than horrible benzos.
 
its almost unbearable the anxiety. it will not go away. nearly 100% of the time i have this feeling in my chest. i shake with fear. i dont want to be perminatly like this.
 
i feel like i might be hooked on the benzos thought. its real tough at the moment to mot want to take one. but it is the only thing to get rid of the anxiety. oh man, im in need of some serious help here.
 
Taking over 300mg in a 24 hour period is just putting you at severe risk. Many kids these days think that you need 0.5 or 1.0 grams of Molly to get high, when you really need a tenth of that...

Be very careful, I don't know how you've dosed "mdma" before, but when it's pure MDMA, you won't need more than 100mg to get to a good safe place.
 
i feel like i might be hooked on the benzos thought. its real tough at the moment to mot want to take one. but it is the only thing to get rid of the anxiety. oh man, im in need of some serious help here.
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If you can you ideally want to avoid the benzos as in the long run they dont help they are just a mask and from my own experience they just fuck you up more.

Dependence is another hurdle you may face if you dont try and get off them asap. Why doctors give them out like candy I dont know but unfortunately they do and they are definitely not safe.

If you can try exercise, meditation, CBT anything other than benzos.

I know how you feel and it does eventually go it just takes time. MDMA induced anxiety is like living in a horror movie its horrible just be as brave as you can and face up to it.
 
a friend of mine has had a problem nearly identical to yours for the past 2 years. he moved out of his house and his freedom went to his head and he did a SHIT LOAD of molly over the course of like 2 weeks. he developed frequent panic attacks and ended up getting xanax which helped but every time he would do ANY drug (weed, molly, etc.) he would have a panic attack. eventually there were two things that brought his anxiety problem to a halt. instead of taking xanax constantly he started getting just 5 very strong xanax a month to take only in the event of a panic attack rather than just constantly taking small doses. i believe he also did a bit of research on breathing exercises.. they make him look like a complete weirdo but i guess anything that helps is good. he said that the strong xanax only for the event of a panic attack really worked and i personally havent seen him have a panic attack in the last 4-6 months so maybe thats something you would want to discuss with your doctor.
 
cool thanks guys. So last night I spoke with my parents about that I was going through. They were very understanding and wanted to do everything they can to help me out. I was able to get a good night sleep last night without any anxiety. So thank god. This morning I have a very dissociated feeling to me. I hope that goes away as I start to wake up more.
 
well I went the entire day today with out any xanax. No panic attacks and over all felt pretty good. I went to see a movie with my parents (Iron man 3 in 3d Imax) and thought the movie was gonna give me an anxiety attack or make me very nausea due to the 3D, but it didnt. In fact I really enjoyed the move and left felling very happy and quite distracted from my thoughts. The movie in fact was kinda inspirational to me and it helped maintain a positive attitude for the rest of the day. Well see how I sleep tonight and how I am tomorrow.
 
so weird, I tried to go to sleep last night, but laying down i just didnt feel tired. I was not able to get a full nights sleep. I felt like my brain just was not tired and didnt want to sleep. I dont know if it was because I got a very long night sleep the night prior, or if the insomnia was coming back with a fiery rage, but either way I could not get a nights sleep. Though, oddly I in fact fell a sleep a few time that im sure of. I actually had a nightmare I do remember where my sister become possessed by a daemon. (I thought it was my sister, until she walked into the room and I realized the girl in my dream was not my sister, which caused me to be confused then wake up. very weird I know) I had a small but of anxiety but that was only because I couldnt get sleep. Im glade the lack of sleep though was not caused by anxiety, which maked me feel like that portion of the comedown is going away. gonna start my day, clean my room and keep busy..
 
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xanax is only to get past a panic attack. take it all the time and you will have panic attacks without it, all the time.
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Ive actually stopped taking xanax cold turkey. (been on it for about 6 weeks actually) Ive been on a very low dose .25mg and have not had any panic attack since I stopped taking them. I decided I need to get through this without the drugs. Thankfully I feel no withdrawal symptoms.
 
^ Lucky you! .25 is a pretty low dose however.


Always best to do things without the help of medication, although I can certainly understand the ideal of something like xanax that seems to magically fix your problems. In reality though, it will make them MUCH worse in the long run.
 
yeah thats why I stopped. I couldnt work without them. It was a nightmare. I work as an engineer and I was having the hardest time figuring out problems.
 
Nootrpics and recovering from lng term MDMA comedown

So Im having that really bad MDMA long term come down thing. I feel like Im going totally insane. The anxiety is being very overwhelming and i feel like I cant even process things at the moment. Im looking in to Nootropics.... anyone have any advice?
 
I tried piracetam for a while it didnt have much of an effect for me.

Some have suggested it might be more effective with choline I might try it again some time soon
 
let me know. im willing to try anything. the idea of a permanent depression really disturbs me.
 
So what happened PMZ did you take something untested? What symptoms you got other than anxiety? How long you been taking MDMA for? How old are you?

I know how your feeling its a nightmare isnt it :(
 
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