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My boyfriend wants to take heroin

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He's battled with an addiction before to coke, he went to the doctors and they told him he was depressed and told him because of his addiction he would have to go and see a psychiartrist.
He refused to go, luckily he managed to kick the habit but now he wants to do heroin.

He would always talk about doing it but I never really thought he actually would. But now hes got hold of a dealer and he came very close to doing it last weekend, luckily his dealer was too strung out to meet him.

He's a lot better these days with his depression but hes not all clear, he says hes only going to do it once but come on do any of you believe that? I don't, I'm very scared that he will take it, discover how good it feels and then keep using it to escape.

He already drinks heavily as an escape (and when I say heavily I mean hes drank four 70cl bottles of rum and could still stand up!)

I tell him I don't want him to but he wont listen, I've told him to go and see someone but he wont. I love him very much and all I want to do is help but I don't know what to do :?
 
"4 70cl bottles of rum"

So that's 700ml or just shy of we call a "fifth" (750ml) in the US ? That is an insane alcohol tolerance, he's gonna kill himself in 10 years if he's really drinking like that.

If he got into H, i don't see how he wouldn't plunge headlong into that too...i mean it's POSSIBLE but H is probably like 680x more enjoyable than booze.

If i were you i'd try to catch him dead sober, look him in the eye and explain that he's (i'm assuming) fucking up his life now but if he's going to get into H he'll likely overdo it as much as booze eventually and flush his life down the toilet entirely, and you're not going for the ride.

Good luck with you situation =D
 
So many of us trying to quit and he wants to use... ins't it an irony? this market is powerfull.
Really hope your boyfriend to gets recovered soon.
Best wishes!
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If he insists on doing this make sure of one thing. That he DOES NOT mix that much alcohol with the heroin. That is a very deadly concoction that I have seen take down experienced users.

I am afraid to say that if he really wants to use, I don't think there is anything you can do. But you have to try. As someone above said catch him when he is sober. Sit him down and tell him how you feel. Pour all your feelings out at that moment. It may even take you threatening to leave. But if you do that, you have to stick by it.

But please, please do not let him mix the drink with the dope. He will be a gonner.
 
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pretty much this. especially your not staying around for the ride. if he gets into it, he'll pawn off all "unnecessary" valuables, including you and your emotions, slowly.
if you allow this at all, even being their high, you will be a tool of justification, and he will try to make you his enabler. mixing that much or half that, with an opiate naive, impulsive person is a bad combination.

if he says he wont drink when he doesnt, hess probably lying, or hasnt dealt with alcohol w/d much; with that tolerance, he will be needing a drink at some point, and if he drinks when it starts coming down, out goes the judgement and promises.

dont stay for this, where ever he decides to do this can be his new home.
 
I'm new here, and perhaps this is out of line, but if your boyfriend is seeing a doctor and the doctor knows of his depression/anxiety, wouldn't it make more sense if your boyfriend saw a psychiatrist who might prescribe something to help him manage his depression?

Some anti-depressants have nasty withdrawal symptoms, though. Many of those drugs aren't harmless, but wouldn't 20 mgs. of Paxil a day in your boyfriend's situation be a little better than heroin?

I applaud your boyfriend for having dealt with his coke addiction.

I do understand about the drinking. I drink too much, far too much, myself. Beer.

Also have a better half who is strugging with addiction/alcoholism. It isn't easy, is it?

Best of luck to you!
 
eh I was going to link the bf overdosed on H thread ^

I was addicted/am to coke and always planned on getting ahold of heroin. Found a dealer, and realized I could lose somethin alot bigger like my boyfriend

I'm depressed as shit, borderline, add, blah blah blah. and I'll be the first to tell you my reason for wanting H was to die, not to ~try it~ and get the cool warm high
 
Its like William S. Burroughs said "The junk merchant doesn't sell his product to the consumer, he sells the consumer to his product. He does not improve and simplify his merchandise. He degrades and simplifies the client." Most people who try it fall in love with it especially if they already have an addictive personality. You need to talk to him about it and tell him what the consequences will be if he gets started on this. I chose the needle over my fiancee. It has become my one true love and the only thing I really care about anymore, everything else in life seems inconsequential compared with a nice shot. Don't let it happen to him, its no way to live trust me.
 
mannn mannn... mannn....!! Does he know it steals your soul? I don't usually regret things... but heroin is one of the things in my life that I seriously could have done just fine without...

What heroin will do/most likely do to you

-takes joy away, be prepared to feel numb and fake happiness for as long as you use.
-turns you into a liar
-turns you into a thief (unless your rich)
-makes you cry the first time you inject when you see blood running down both your arms and you fuck up the only shot you had left.
-is completely exhausting because you never get to rest except for a few hours everyday after you score.
-turns you into a complete slave to drug dealers and to your withdrawals. (eventually the boundaries of what you don't do in order to not be sick become blurry and you find yourself shooting up with toilet water using a dirty needle in a fucking mcdonalds bathroom or some custy shit like that)
-ruins your sex drive
-constipates you
-probably ruins your hygiene
-totally screws over your brain
-is incredibly addictive after just one shot (even though you puke during the first shot) [you would think that would stop us huh]?
-takes your good friends away, or at the least, puts them on hold.
-introduces you to some of the most fucked up people on this planet.
-creates a serious chance of violence occurring in your life
-possibly makes you homeless, and at the least is going to make havoc of your living situation.
-hurts everyone around you because your fucking useless and a constant source of usery.
-possible jail sentence
-did I mention withdrawals? I think withdrawals probably feel like what it feels like in the last 2 weeks before you die of wasting away.
-has a tendency to turn you into a "second class citizen"
-will at least make you a full out beggar once in your life, but probably you will beg often. If even its begging for a ride.

The list goes on... I personally have had everyone of these things happen to me :/ (not shooting toilet water though :P ) and I am not really an exception to the rule or anything.. Just normal junky lifestyle really...

SHOW HIM THIS!!
 
Unfortunately he is his own person and there is not much you can do to stop him. What you can try though is to give him ultimatums. Tell him that you will leave him if he does decide to try it. To be honest, whether you mean it or not, you probably will want to leave him once does try the drug. There are no casual heroin users. This drug will consume him and it will become his life.
 
^Tbh that's horrible advice. imo ultimatums are abandonment. help him get through it. do not give him a PUNISHMENT choice. explain to him everything we just told you, and his mind will probably change without needing to be left :/
 
Draigan said:
-takes joy away, be prepared to feel numb and fake happiness for as long as you use.
-turns you into a liar
-turns you into a thief (unless your rich)
-makes you cry the first time you inject when you see blood running down both your arms and you fuck up the only shot you had left.
-is completely exhausting because you never get to rest except for a few hours everyday after you score.
-turns you into a complete slave to drug dealers and to your withdrawals. (eventually the boundaries of what you don't do in order to not be sick become blurry and you find yourself shooting up with toilet water using a dirty needle in a fucking mcdonalds bathroom or some custy shit like that)
-ruins your sex drive
-constipates you
-probably ruins your hygiene
-totally screws over your brain
-is incredibly addictive after just one shot (even though you puke during the first shot) [you would think that would stop us huh]?
-takes your good friends away, or at the least, puts them on hold.
-introduces you to some of the most fucked up people on this planet.
-creates a serious chance of violence occurring in your life
-possibly makes you homeless, and at the least is going to make havoc of your living situation.
-hurts everyone around you because your fucking useless and a constant source of usery.
-possible jail sentence
-did I mention withdrawals? I think withdrawals probably feel like what it feels like in the last 2 weeks before you die of wasting away.
-has a tendency to turn you into a "second class citizen"
-will at least make you a full out beggar once in your life, but probably you will beg often. If even its begging for a ride.
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Standard.

withdrawals probably feel like what it feels like in the last 2 weeks before you die of wasting away.
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Perfect description.
 
Why is he depressed anyway. I do not know what your life is like but I think that having a gf who gets on the net and seeks help what to do regarding the situation would mean a lot. I would be grateful as f*ck if I found a girl who would care like you do about your bf. Do try to get him to see a psychiatrist or sit him down like others suggested. I guess he'll go "i would just try it once" or "I am not stupid to get addicted I know how powerful it is". It sucks cause some things really cannot be understood unless experienced. Maybe have a recovered junkie talk to him, maybe someone who leads local AAs, if you really are that concerned.
I just know that H is really deceiving, you do it here and there, spend money, maybe then do it more often, spend more money, until you are sunk to your neck and realize that you cannot function anymore without it. Your brain is screwed, you are depressed when youre not using (or if you were before it gets much much worse) and feel like cr*p. And you always know that one hit will make it all better. Do everything you can to keep him away.

If he starts using and you cannot talk him out of it, leave him. Otherwise you are looking at years of lies, deception and fights. I am not saying now, you try to do everything so he stays away or if he uses, try to make him stop. But often you cannot. If you then realize he cares for the drug more than you, it is not really abandoning him, it is more like he abandoned you for the drug and you are just leaving him. Not worth your time,health, life. But that is the worst case scenario. Now, you just make him feel loved and try to convince him to stay away.
 
There's not much you can do if somebody is determined to do something. You can try to persuade him not to take it, or leave him if you do not want to be with a heroin user, but he will be the one that makes the decision.

The fact that he is drinking heavily is a sign that the heroin would become a problem, but you can't predict this for certain. Some people do heroin without getting addicted to it, so there is always the possibility that he will not continue to the point of becoming dependent.
 
Does he have chronic pain or something?
Thats why i started with the shit and although my habit is still minor, im basically broke now and the pain is even worse than before without h.
If its chronic pain he needs to find some help; if not he needs some perspective on life and how lucky he is for what he does have and what he doesnt (diseases, missing limbs, chronic pain, etc)
 
Draigan, yeah pretty much what you said, apart from the bit where you said you never shot up toilet water? Not even boiled first? Bet you was one of them posh addicts what always had a refilled bottle of Evian or summat in their robbing bag with the rest of the bits and pieces, weren't you? ;)

Dontknowwhattodo, I have no words of wisdom to offer you I'm afraid. If he's determined to do it, then I suspect you'll not be able to stop him no matter what you do. What will be left to you at that point is a choice as to whether you let it go, or not. Forget all the 'Heroin really screws you up' stuff, cos that has never yet stopped someone determined to try it, and it won't work. The only thing you can do, I think, is make plain to him what the consequences of his choices will be as far as your relationship goes, and if he still chooses heroin knowing the likely consequences, then you'll know where you stand. That does mean that first you will have to work out for yourself what you can and can't live with, and decide in principle at least what those consequences will be?

Sepher
 
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