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MXE Nasally instead of MDMA at TECHNO RAVES?

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Hi Guys,

I have read many times here on BL that MXE taken nasally is far more speedy than if taken sublingually. So far I have only cared about sublingual method, doing various doses between 15 and 100mg tops.

Until recently my favourite party drug was MDMA but I think I got tired of it and don't want to do it any more (at least for some time)

Then I remembered reading that MXE taken NASALLY is quite speedy. Do you think it would be a nice alternative to MDMA for me at TECHNO PARTIES ?

What doses would you recommend. I have over 1 year experience in MXE but I keep my tolerance low - doing once or twice per 2 months or so.

At what doses NASALLY the SPEEDY EFFECTS start turning into DISSOCIATION ? I know this is very subjectvie but plz give some estimates.

cheers
 
^ I would have thought snorting around 50mg is likely to pretty dissociating unless you've got tolerance. I'd probably start somewhere around 30mg or so - it's pretty easy/effective to re-dose on MXE anyway if it doesn't get you to where you want to be.
 
MXE at raves/concerts is very fun, I have done it multiple times. But do not expect it to be Ecstasy.
 
I couldn't see this working well, personally, but I don't get any speedy effects at all from mxe...
I don't think it would be a replacement for MDMA/stimulants/empathogens at an electronic music show, and the line between "speedy" and dissociation could be quite thin and I imagine that being heavily dissociated by mxe while at a club wouldn't be the most fun. I was dosing mxe sublingually quite often on the first day of a festival last summer and ended up quite dissociated and detached... I was heavily introspective, but not "in my own mind" as you get with other psychedelics... I was more just an observer to my own thoughts. I was still able to talk/walk(somewhat)/dance and enjoy music but looking back I wish I was more social.

I would avoid alcohol for sure, as this will dehydrate you even further and make any possible dissociation potentiated and much more sloppy. Keep the mind to drink lots of water as well as mxe is somewhat dehydrating even just sitting in bed.
 
yo I would start low though. I assume that I had no tolerance when I snorted 35 mg in two lines, and I got heavily dissociated and even nauseous to the point where I had to lay down for a few hours.
 
loulou reed said:
I'd say around 50mg and +
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oh geez, dont suggest that!...:!

50mg is a dose where most people can barely keep track of why they walked into the kitchen, and will start trying to clean a stain off the wall without any logic/reason.

id say 20mg if you want to have a moderate experience at a rave, 25mg if you want to get a lot further away from logic (and have a friend/sitter available to get you home!!!!!!!!)

ive personally taken about 15mg before riding the train to toronto and walking to a friend's for drinks. navigation was fairly tough at that level but i managed. drinking was easy on the substance and led to me getting way to drunk towards the same point as the mxe came down.

id advise against any high doses in public, this stuff is quite confusing which can be good in a club, but when you step outside you may realise you cant get yourself home.
 
i went to a hard tek show on a lot a lot of mxe and had the whole k-dance going on, half time, barely moving, leg's braced.
 
i think the notion that mxe is 'speedy' when insufflated is only true in comparison to other routes of administration.
in my opinion/experience it is still dissociating, just more manic. i wouldn't say it is 'speedy' - perhaps just relatively more so than sublingual administration.
i have taken low doses in social situations, but i don't think that it is a very suitable replacement/substitute for mdma. you certainly run the risk, as noted before, of finding yourself in over your head - not something i would want to contemplate on a dissociative.

having said all of that, i am sure some people have done it - and enjoyed it. i have danced on mxe (mixed with pod tea) at a party, but it wasn't something i wanted to do all night. just for a song or two.
i guess i'm just dubious of this desire a lot of people seem to have of using whatever latest drug they've discovered in a club situation.
perhaps i'm not enough of a clubber these days to think it is appropriate, but i think this substance is much more valuable in a very different setting - specifically, a very chilled one. each to their own though.

if you do try it, i would suggest you stay very well hydrated.
 
spacejunk said:
[...]i think this substance is much more valuable in a very different setting - specifically, a very chilled one. each to their own though.

if you do try it, i would suggest you stay very well hydrated.
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I totally agree with this and the recommendations to keep doses low (perhaps <20 mg). Don't carry more than a few doses with you and don't redose for at least 1,5-2 hours, as this could get you in serious trouble rather quickly.
 
I've never used MXE, but as far as the dissociative concept goes, I used to bump Ketamine all throughout the night in social settings, parties/clubs. Just be wary of not overdoing it, I'd imagine.
 
Zazen said:
^ I would have thought snorting around 50mg is likely to pretty dissociating unless you've got tolerance. I'd probably start somewhere around 30mg or so - it's pretty easy/effective to re-dose on MXE anyway if it doesn't get you to where you want to be.
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^ Pretty sound advice here. I'd recommend testing the dose at home beforehand of course to ensure you're not uncomfortably impaired at that dose range, and if you don't have a scale (of course, I'm not expecting you to take it to a rave, but weigh doses beforehand) then I don't think it's a wise idea since just a 10mg mistake in dosage can be the difference between "hitting the spot" and being too dissociated to go about what you were doing.

Also, make sure you don't take so much that you'd do something stupid under the influence, as MXE seems to combine quite badly with many other popular drugs, and it'd be very easy to be too messed up, take something else you were offered, and get yourself hurt.

Personally I think there are better drugs out there for this purpose. If you want something speedy - go for your straight stimulants, amphetamine, cocaine, etc. :)
 
I'd go for a 10mg oral at the beginning of the night, boosting nasally every 1.5hours with 3-5mg. Should make for good times !
 
I agree mxe and mdma are completely different monsters at any amount you take any way you take it. That being said I try to only do mdma (or similar style) serotonin releasers once a month. I like to go to edm or live music events at least once a week. MXE has become my go to "club dug" for full "Rage cage" whatever you want to call it for when the time comes to get down, and I save my session with mdma for something more special. and I only ever snort mxe btw usually nasally, at 25-35 mg every 2 hours or so. Everyone else who I have given bumps to at shows agrees it tits. the dancing and music immersion of dissociatives, while mostly different then the empathogenic, somewhat similar to the entheogenic, is so fluid it makes live music and MXE one of the best things since corn flakes all IMO of course
 
MXE at raves/events is quite enjoyable. Personally, it's nothing like ecstasy. Mdma gets me talking to people, makes me unable to shut up. I simply feel amazing, not a care in the world. MXE simply makes me lost in the environment. I don't wanna talk, I don't even want to interact, I just do things. i get lost in the lights, in the poi, the music, etc.

If it's your first time doing it at a rave, ideally I'd recommend doing a few small bumps scattered by 10 or 15 minutes each. Don't do a large amount all at once, it will be too overwhelming.
 
I'd go for a 10mg oral at the beginning of the night, boosting nasally every 1.5hours with 3-5mg. Should make for good times !
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I wouldn't feel a thing from that. If you read what loulou said, he's suggesting that, at doses above 50 mg, the dissociation will be strong, and that for a speedy effect, on should take less than that.
 
The OP has done MXE, so I doubt he's expecting a stimulant type of buzz really. Although OP, as has been said before I wouldn't expect the difference to be significant from sublingual. Tbh this is where it gets subjective, because personally I find the difference in effects from these two ROAs to be negligible. This isn't to say it won't be great fun though. Follow the advice already given as per dosage and all and you're set.

When I done MXE in a club, took me ages to find the toilet. I was on a small dose of aMT too I remember. One wall was a complete mirror. Needless to say that confused the hell out of me. I thought the place was twice as big. I think people laughed at me as I almost walked into the damn wall! Fun night though. I ended up spending the peak of the MXE sat outside in the gutter being amazed at how massive the cars going by looked.
 
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