MXE HCl reactions in water

[babyspeer]

Claims of MXE's water solubility range to total to near impossible after shaking, stirring, heating, etc. Discard adulterants, and this inconsistency may stem from the fact that some MXE comes in freebase form, some in HCl.

Does anybody know if MXE HCl is actually water-soluble? What would be the ratio needed on a per gram basis?

I was told of a funny reaction that occurred when mixing 1g MXE HCl with 10ml saline water 0,9%. Some MXE went into the water while most turned into white floating fluffy clumps (first noticeable as foam). These clumps were impossible to dissolve.

What could have caused this? Perhaps it was the salt, and thus, one should ethanol-filter it to gain total dissolution?

 

[Zazen]

I've never had a problem with MXE dissolving and i've had 3 very different batches:

With lots of stirring for a couple of minutes i've got 75mg to dissolve in 1ml of hot water, although I can't imagine the solubility is much higher than that - try adding more saline and it should dissolve, if not try heating it up.

Hope this helps, and for future posts use "I" rather than portraying it as a story, makes it easier to read

 

[bluedolphin]

Likewise, having had at least 20 batches of Methoxetamine, I've never noticed a problem dissolving it in water.

Even batches which I considered to be of really poor quality would still dissolve fine.

Some batches were a little rocky or sandy and needed to be crushed up to expediate the process but still dissolved fine.

I believe almost all MXE is the same salt, and HCl at that.

Who knows you might have had a worse batch of MXE than I've ever had... but I sort of doubt it, as I've done more MXE than almost anyone.

 

[Solipsis]

You didn't say this sample was actually verified to be a pure product before trying to dissolve it...? A possibility is that it is impure, another possibility that the solubility is limited and only a portion can 'fit' in the water. Though I think the solubility should be near that of ketamine and the gram should fit in 10 ml.

Checking this thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/552851-Methoxetamine-Subthread-I.M.-Injection

I found this:

I successfully diluted 10 mg in 0,15 ml water (give and take), 0,10 ml was not enough.
The water was room temperature

Meaning 1 gram did not fit in 10 ml, but it did fit in 15 ml.. if you convert with same ratios.

Apply heat and stirring!

But you probably should be very careful injecting this stuff, someone has already died from doing that (even though MDAI was also involved).

 

[babyspeer]

Solipsis: No, it wasn't lab tested. It was claimed to be 98% MXE, and sampling the tiniest bit was already producing noticeable effects so the batch is reasonably high-grade. I also checked that other post, concerning the need 15ml for 1g MXE. The problem is that from the start, less than 0.4g did not dissolve entirely on 10ml.

Heating and shaking is not producing significant dilution. These clumps resemble foam in the sense that they appear to be trapping air. Possible cause: this MXE had been mixed before with pure ethanol, and the ethanol did not completely vaporize before mixing with saline water (less than 0.1ml). Perhaps the interaction between salt and ethanol is causing this freak behavior (salt is insoluble in alcohol, alcohol loves water, MXE is in the midle of this battlefield). Any thoughts? Perhaps its time to evaporate the hell out of this baby.

 

[eye_wide_open]

Sometimes if you add water to your vial or whatever first then add chemicals, the surface tension could prevent them from mixing. Like a cup of hot cocoa. It needs to be hot to mix well and the powder goes in first. Then the hot water. Otherwise it won't mix well and forms powder bubbles on the surface.

It's wise to add the chemicals first and then the warm liquids while stirring. Just a thought.

I dissolved 10mg MXE into a few drops of water before no issues. Drank it and received a noticeable buzz. I think I just had a little left in a vial or baggie and poured water in and drank it to get the last MXE out. It's recorded somewhere in one of the MXE B&D's.

I just used plain old sink water.

If you wanted to fix the problem of bubbly MXE water, you may either be able to further dilute the water as suggested or evaporate the water and start over?

 

[babyspeer]

Simple like hot cocoa, and wise. Maybe it is just surface tension as you say.

Heating and shaking makes no difference so far. K-style evaporation is the answer then, and start over.

 

[bluedolphin]

Have you bothered to powderize your MXE before deciding it is completely water insoluable?

I mean chunks or crystals of MXE do tend to take a long time to dissolve... they seem to sit there forever and can clump up.

If you take a mortal and pestel to your MXE (or a credit card and a mirror) I doubt you will have so much difficulty.

Otherwise, I would suspect, even if you did get good effects from snorting your MXE, that it is not as pure as you might have though.