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Music for the Novel Legal High Generation

Don't insult me by claiming Dub reggae has any relation to current dubstep other than the bastardisation of the wub...wub.

I'm not holding my breath for a return of uplifting house and trance to the ecstasy scene :(
 
^+1 BURIAL, no wobble there though. Not everyone knows or has the inclination to know every genre intimately and so their exposure will only be to the mainstream, I'm sure at some stage someones said "anyone who calls weather report, jazz fusion doesn't know shit"

poledriver said:
That just makes it boring and less exciting to me. Some mates with a billion terrabytes of dance music that they listen to like 0 times. awesome. But they have everything! And at the touch of a button too.

Was way better without all the technology, less mobiles or none, no internet etc, you'd actually go out and hear new music whilst off ya face and then hear it another week end and go yeah that shit is niiice.
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I've had this debate a few times, and yeah sure it used to be cool to be the guy with a certain tape or CD, going around to someones house just to smoke up and listen to a cd they had (imagine doing that now lol). of course there is something about crate digging and it's nice to have an album on vinyl or cd with all the liner notes and whatnot.
But for all practical purposes my access to good tunes is better now and I don't get stung on those ridiculous australasian record prices..... $40 for a CD Fuck that.
I'm glad that my financial situation no longer effects whether or not I can listen to a song that I like.

I don't get whats stopping you from going to hear new music off your face though? that's probably more do to with the lack of good E now.
 
One Thousand Words said:
I'm not holding my breath for a return of uplifting house and trance to the ecstasy scene :(
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I'm not holding my breath for a return of ecstasy to the electronic music scene :\

Let's not forget about trouse™ that thing that trance somehow morphed in to in the last 5 or so years.
 
Better chance now days than 5 years ago in my experience, but you have to be vigilant otherwise is is alphabet soup for you.

I am not a music snob by any means, if the drugs are good you could tap two tin cans together at 180bpm and I'll nod my head ;)
 
this is a great time for music , not only do you have the whole back catalog of existing tunes which you can now access at the touch of a button but also the means of producing electronic music has become accessible to pretty much everyone. of course that means there is more shit music available along with the all good stuff that's coming out.
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That's a good way of looking at it, and over the last twelve months I've had my faith fully restored by what individuals are doing in their free time for nothing more than their own creative expression.

I joined Soundcloud about a year back, and at first I was just posting some of my crap and hoping someone liked it (turns out they did - I have strong following of about 4 or so listeners).

But the magic happened when I got over myself, and started exploring and realising that there's absolutely loads and loads of amazingly original and inspiring stuff on there. You gotta do some digging - do NOT start at the front page with the so-called most played or popular or whatever - but it pays off when you find stuff that is original and raw AND, thanks to the power and accessibility of today's DAWs, sounds amazing.

Much of it is free to download as well.

There is heaps of talent out there. Some of it is so good it makes me wonder why it isn't super successful, but then I remember that being a highly paid contract-bound artist almost goes against being original and genuine.
 
Jesus guys, Dr Platypus just asked for some modern dance music suggestions not a discussion on your journey through electronic music in the 90's or whether dubstep is shit or not.

Anyway, here is modernish stuff that fits the genres people are listening to these days (I think).

BASSNECTAR TIMESTRETCH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-jOZRe0-8

THE GLITCH MOB - BEYOND MONDAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImWuxHbQCw

THE BLOODY BEETROOTS - ROCKSTEADY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSqttO3NtCg

PRETTY LIGHTS - I KNOW THE TRUTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSqttO3NtCg
 
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lovepsychadelics said:
Vitalic, Diplo and infected mushroom aint dubstep. They sure as shit were not around when I was raving/clubbing in the 90's. Dubstep is it's own unique crock of shit. That said I do enjoy listening to the Bloody Beetroots and a bunch of other TALENTED artists... Skrillex anit no talent so fuck him and all the other parodies!
Perhaps you should realize that in 4-5 years dubstep will be just another genre that was and there will be something new cooked up by some twat for their 15 minutes. What will Skrillex be doing, well if I was him I'd invest my millions, ride the fame wave while it's still high and milk every fucking dollar I could.
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Im happy you had a good time raving/clubbing in the 90's, but surely you can understand that peoples taste in music will continue to evolve. I caught the dying end of the rave scene (2003-2006) I was mainly into drum and bass (mostly because that what was big then) but at the same time Im happy to say I listened to music from nearly every other dance genre (and loved them equally if there was decent pills involved). I have never been a huge fan of dubstep but I wouldn't ever say I hated the whole genre otherwise I would look like a dick.
 
AcidAttack said:
...never speak of religion or politics at a party...
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...or music on a forum.

So let me get this straight doc? You're looking for the "Ebenezeer Goode" but with an RC/Legal high spin (the title doesn't seem to fit with your original post)?
 
One Thousand Words said:
Don't insult me by claiming Dub reggae has any relation to current dubstep other than the bastardisation of the wub...wub.

I'm not holding my breath for a return of uplifting house and trance to the ecstasy scene :(
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I am going to insult you by saying it does.
Do a little reading as to how it came about.
Digital mystics and kode 9 both are pioneers in dubstep.
The wub wub in traditional dubstep isn't used as commonly as this mainstream midrange shit all you people seem to think is dubstep. Any way this thread isn't about how good or shit dubstep is and those tracks I posted are damn fine examples of good tunes to listen to when off your head.
 
^I don't know how you could insult him...

You create that genre Busty? Reggae that is?

Halif said:
Yeah, I know, like...where's the originality gone?!

At least least there's that Tepalom guy doing some interesting things and uhhh... Souncloud... and... ummm...

<pssst that Tep guy is actually me, and I'm shamefully plugging my own sounds>

I've never done this before (consciously), and I don't think the Novel Legal High Generation is going to get anything from it, but I may as well mention it so that I can beat my personal best of 6 plays in one day!! Oh, what a day, it was!!
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How many followers do you have now? after said shameless plug. Wait.... Are you being serious?

You have me intrigued.
 
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Haha, yeah, I was being serious about being on Soundcloud. It wasn't really a shameless plug, though. I don't post stuff there because I want lots of followers. It's just a hobby, and much like this forum, I've met some really interesting people through it (both online and in real life).
 
rag on skrillex all you want. Dog blood and Jack U are gonna be two of the biggest things in dance and OWSLA is pushing some pretty cool and unique EDM. Skrillex knows how to get a sound going. Also phutureprimitive's new album is some best acid dance listening out
 
Oldred3s said:
Man all you people ragging on dubstep and putting skrillex in the dubstep genre don't know what the fuck dubstep is!!!
Dubstep, REAL dubstep originally didn't have a name, people just refered to it as dark garage and then it became dubstep.
Go and listen to some kryptic minds, digital mystics, harmonic 313/ mark Pritchard, lorne,
Peverlist, burial, early benga, hectagon, youngsta, kromsta, kode 9. These are the acts that are real dubstep not just some wankers that jumped on a scene and ruined it with shit sounds.
Dubstep comes from 2 genres. Dub reggae and 2 step garage. Then came all this wanker producers that used a syncopated drum beat and raped it with hectic mid to hi range wobbles and "drops". Real dubstep is all about sub bass and half time beats with minor wobble. Before raggin on a genre learn what it is.
Any cunt that calls skrillex dubstep doesn't know a pussy from an asshole.
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Dub reggae?? ah ya can feel the baseline... in Jamaica! As for Skrillex lol he's just a record company front lmao. Unfortunately for the statement my pussy and asshole are area's of my anatomy I'm very familiar with. Ok so your pretty much supporting my statement that "dubstep" wasn't really a part of pop culture until someone came along (from a record label) and was aware of this "new" genre and up strolled Skrillex. Just happened to be his lucky day. Most kid's would not be familiar with this sound if he hadn't been as successful on the musical charts as he was. UNDERGROUND is were this style was birthed and my posts alluded to the fact there are DJ's/producers/artists that were/are talented and make fucking good tunes (bloody beetroots given as an easily identified popular artistic duo) example just happens to be this guy (skrillex) or whatever lucky day. Also undergound, or at least more so than it currently is, that is were "dubstep" would have remained. Yet another genre among many that have come and gone in my time "Detroit House", "Chicago House", "Acid House", "Happy Hard", "Hard House", "Gabba", "Speedcore" etc etc etc. Anyway my point is that without the massive marketing behind "Skrillex" and his recent chart success "dubstep" would remain a very "underground" genre or at least until some other record company signed some random.

As for the foundations of dubstep all artist are influenced by others "No man is an Island" quote springs to mind. "Skrillex" does feel he is an island and pretty much says so in his E-NEWS interview! Dub reggae though, please enlighten me as to why dub reggae is a genre you feel is an immediate precursor to "dubstep", cause it's been around since the early 90's, it uses distorted baselines, what?? Ahhh digital mystics well I can see you have taste. As for music for the novel legal highs generation I think all the artist (excluding punk) are still around, touring, making music/records and are as big a part of today's dance culture as "dubstep". Indeed Diplo is very much an artist of "today". Also Casey (Fisherspooner) is fucking sexy! Also I still consider myself part of the novel chemical generation mostly through being a rather willing lab rat, sometimes my own enthusiasm is frightening. That said not going near any of the new stuff eg. 5EAPB, 3,4 CTMP, Pryazolam etc feel I've done my share of "research" and my lab rats have had very unhealthy reactions to some new generation "novel highs" aka "designer drugs". Not ragging on "dubstep" just feel that a lot of people wouldn't be listening if it wasn't a commercial success.... also a lot of pretentious wankers wouldn't think it was "cool" if it wasn't as big a success. The kind that say "I love K" and in the next sentence say "I hate drugs that don't allow me to be in control" (bagging psychedelic drugs for lack of control but saying "I love K???" is it because K is seen as being "cool" and so is meth vs say LSD??? Or is it because these twats ain't hit the hole.)

This is the big one THERE ARE HEAPS OF OTHER STYLES THAN DUBSTEP. LETS NOT HAVE A TUGGING CONTEST OVER DUBSTEP. As to the OP should be heaps of artists to have a listen to listed here in this rather entertaining series of post's ;)!
 
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drplatypus said:
Morning, Bluelighters!

I've been asked to sum up the War on Drugs in music and discussion for ABC Canberra later this week (Thursday), and was hoping to get some suggestions for anthems that consumers associate with the post-mephedrone era... I'm getting older and my cultural memory kind of stops around 2005-2010!

I'm not even sure they exist, given the diversity of the market, at least not in the same way they did wayyyyyy back in the late 80s / early 90s (the last time I danced to anything 'carefree'!)

Any suggestions will be gratefully received- I have a carte blanche, and if I can find it, I can play it. Bluelight will also get a shout out too.

Mods, sorry if I've posted in the wrong place- please move me! And can someone tell me how strong Bluelight global numbers are now- I remember hearing numbers around 50,000 5 years ago, but wouldn't know now!

Cheers! DrP
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DrP posts for the second time this year and all you guys can do is shit on about dubstep.


Re your question; i don't think there is any sub-culture music genre that is born from a particular drug experience in the same way that psychedelia rock was born from cannabis and LSD. Maybe you could look at the Ninja Tune label. DJ Shadow, Amon Tobin. very mood music, lots of drug connotations in those pieces. Te ABC Producer & editor will find easy Ninja tunes music to meld into a story.

There is music being born from the US about “purple drank" a home brew connocoction of codeine and promethazine - there is a number of notable tracks made by Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All, (OFWGKTA_ The music is alrightish (prefer Cannabal Ox myself). There is some really interesting Deltron releases that would sound good in a story.

But to suggest that Dubstep is somehow takes inspiration from 2C-E would be a mistake. People take all sorts of drugs and there is no way to you could say one resulted in Dubstep.
 
chugs said:
DrP posts for the second time this year and all you guys can do is shit on about dubstep.


Re your question; i don't think there is any sub-culture music genre that is born from a particular drug experience in the same way that psychedelia rock was born from cannabis and LSD. Maybe you could look at the Ninja Tune label. DJ Shadow, Amon Tobin. very mood music, lots of drug connotations in those pieces. Te ABC Producer & editor will find easy Ninja tunes music to meld into a story.

There is music being born from the US about “purple drank" a home brew connocoction of codeine and promethazine - there is a number of notable tracks made by Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All, (OFWGKTA_ The music is alrightish (prefer Cannabal Ox myself). There is some really interesting Deltron releases that would sound good in a story.

But to suggest that Dubstep is somehow takes inspiration from 2C-E would be a mistake. People take all sorts of drugs and there is no way to you could say one resulted in Dubstep.
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Cool some amazing artists and tunes with the Ninja Tunes label! My personal favorite Kid Koala's "carpal tunnel syndome" album with "Barhopper 1" and "Like Irregular Chickens". Bit of parody on Amon Tobin there. Amazing stuff! How can anyone claim 2c e has anything to do with that style of music afore mentioned in this post? Not really a party drug much to heavy physically to be much fun as such.
 
gimpan said:
Im happy you had a good time raving/clubbing in the 90's, but surely you can understand that peoples taste in music will continue to evolve. I caught the dying end of the rave scene (2003-2006) I was mainly into drum and bass (mostly because that what was big then) but at the same time Im happy to say I listened to music from nearly every other dance genre (and loved them equally if there was decent pills involved). I have never been a huge fan of dubstep but I wouldn't ever say I hated the whole genre otherwise I would look like a dick.
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Did you go raving? As in to a warehouse party or a doof? I'm not sure but a doof is about as close to warehouse parties as you can get so if the answer to either is no then you ain't really been raving.

Wow you really read all my posts before looking like a dick yourself. I don't hate all dubstep just most of it I think deadmou5 little bit on you tube re: dubstep is spot on and very funny. As I said Deadmou5 is not bad but to much starts to get annoying. Also Infected Mushroom, Diplo, Vitalic etc are not artists I listened to then but are artists I listen to today... Amazing your concept of the English language and it's various nuance must somehow slip through your desperate grasps at understanding. I have continued raving well after the 90's douche and I think this is the key to understanding the concept: first there were raves, then there were clubs and last of all the festival was born! Wow go have another tug buddy.
 
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