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Mushrooms - Some Exp - Two nights of tripping...I was God...?

DaDornta

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Two nights of tripping...I was God...?

Background: I'm an avid pot smoker and an experianced DXM user. I've reached some of the highest plateau's possible from the stuff. I've also tried LSA (no sitter, first time tripper, freaked out BIG time), and i've also done a very enjoyable shroom trip about 6 months prior to this.

I thought I was ready for this weekend. I thought I could handle whatever came my way--be it X, acid, shrooms...whatever. I was totally and completly wrong.

A group consisting of myself, T (a sober sitter), E and his girlfriend D, and an a girl named K (done shrooms herself over 100 times).

We decided that this year we would attend the anual bluegrass festival in our state, which is put on by some bikers way out in the middle of nowhere. I happened to have a cabin nearby and it just sounded so perfect to spend a weekend getting high, tripping and listening to some great jam bands.

Only D had ever been this event before, so when I saw the thousands of people camping in this massive gravel pit--I was utterly amazed. People had elaborate camps setup, complete with torches, projectors, lights, generators...the works. It was like a psyhcadelic city! People were openly smoking weed, selling and buying shrooms/acid/x/whatever and basically getting seriously fucked up.

I was under the impression the festival was about some great music, but it turns out it was a huge tailgate drug-fest...

The first night we sat around late at my cabin smoking weed and taking nitrous hits. K had brought 3 bags of shrooms from town just to make sure that we had some. D, E, and K ate the bags, save .6 grams that was graciously given to me.

I have had gastric bypass surgery, so my stomach is the size of an egg--not to mention everything I eat goes strait to my intestines practically. I got a quick, noticable buzz. I began to see psychadelic fractal/pixels overlayed on my vision. After we all started to feel the mushrooms (i was so surprised I was seeing CEV's after a .6 dose!) we decided to head to the festival. It was about 3am at this time, and when we got there and got out of the car an 8 year old kid approaches the car and goes, "Hey any you guys lookin for shrooms?" Apparently we found out later that this kids parents give him shrooms to sell as his allowance. Wierd.

We walked around and saw some of the most fucked up people i've ever seen in my life. I was enjoying the bodyhigh and the slight color enhancements I was having. K told me that her friends had come out for this thing and she could get me whatever I wanted, namley acid. I was stoked but K was so gone that just trying to get her to operate her cellphone to call her friend was impossible.

We eventually went home and went to bed...The next moring D and E left, leaving just T, K and myself. We headed out late again after sleeping all day. We got out there and this time we managed to hook up with K's friends. We setup some chairs at their camp site and I proceeded to pull out my oz of chronic to get to smoking. I started to meet everyone, and it seemed everyone was rollin on X. I was just trying to get a base high at this point, maybe to a few chargers of nitrous and THEN try to find some harder stuff.

K got up with her friends for a walk, and when she came back she handed me a baggie of shrooms. I took out my scale and it read 3.5...Nice...

I started immediatley to munch them down. After getting half the bag down, I was really feeling woozy. My puplis were getting massive and K asked me to get her a whippet ready. I tried desperatley to fumble around with the cracker, trying to put the balloon on. The guy sitting next to me saw how hard I was trying and offered to help.

Just after this, we got word that the pyrotechnics show was about to start, so I put my pipe in my shorts and we all got up and started to walk to where the fireworks were going to be. I began to stare at the ground, looking at the rocks. They were melting and breathing. When i would close my eyes I could see strange aztec looking patterns.

We stoped for a break at a campsite that had a cozy fire going. I got a strange and very comfortable feeling standing there. It turns out this is where K got the shrooms from. Every time I would pass by this place later I would get this strange feeling of peace and serenity.

It was just a few minutes later when we realized I had left my backpack way back where we first started, which had all my weed (about an oz) and all my gear inside. We quickly walked back to get the bag, then we locked up all our gear and headed out to see the fireworks. On the way there, my mouth started to feel very off, I was moving my tounge around and my cheecks and gums started to feel very bizare and distorted. This happened several times in the night, but only around a certain area of the festival.

It was just about at this time, standing and watching the fireworks going off that I began to really loose it. Things started to accelerate very fast from this point. I have only about a 2% ablilty today to recall from here to this morning what took place next.

Staring at the fireworks I began to feel like this was one of those events in your life that you will never be the same after. I started to nearly break down into tears because of the sheer beauty of the bursting colors in the sky. Suddenly I started to loose ALL physical control over my body. I felt like I was orgasming, shitting, pissing, and in pure bliss all at the same time. I remember going back and forth between T (the sober one) and K and her friends. I would get very diffrent vibes from the two. T seemed like the "logbook" and "guide", whereas K and her friends seemed like fellow magical beings of some kind.

Durring the fireworks I remember thinking and saying that I had done everything now in life I had ever wanted to do. I can't even begin to desribe the emotions and feelings involved with this realization.

Shortly after the fireworks I began to have the strangest sensations ever. Suddenly, sexual thoughs, complete with full on open eyed hallucinaions of me having sex with K popped into my head. I would drop my jaw and look at K, who would seem to blush and look very ashamed. It was if all the primal emotions including lust were transferable telepathically. What I thought about she could sence, and what she though I could also see/sence.

I happen to have some feelings for K, shes single and really attractive. We both enjoy MJ and exploring our minds with things like DXM and shrooms. I felt very "connected" in sexual and non-sexual ways that entire night. It some instances, I felt like we co-existed together and I swore she could pick up on what I was feeling/seeing. I'm very confused about this part of the trip. I haven't mentioned this to K at all, and im wondering if I should ever mention it at all.

K and her friends understood that I was tripping much to hard for me to handle, so they kept trying to get me to focus on objects like clowds or points of light. In the sky the clowds looked like fish skeletons. It was actually really awesome.

I started to think of TJ as some kind of life-guide-partner. I kept asking him if we were married or somthing. I also thought that I was married to K for some reason because of the strange manifestations of my thoughts.

Shortly after this we all started to walk around the festival area. I remember now suddenly realizing that I could create or alter anything I wanted. I could have anything, be anything, go anywhere or do anything. I thought that maybe my life that I had known was not real, and that the state I was in was somehow an unlocked dimension that some of us can enter. I was starting to wonder if I was in heaven. I felt like my real life had been a dream and I had taken these shrooms which had awakened me into the real world.

To better explain I also somehow got the impression that I was sort of in that beautiful beach scene from the end of Contact. That all the people tripping around me were from other worlds or somthing. We had found the "galactic nexus" or somthing, where time/space did not mean anything. The festival never ended, and that this place and these people were more of a "lifestyle" than anything. I kept saying that I was on a "magical mystery mushroom tour".

Eventually we got back to the campsite to sit down. At this point I was living entire lives in seconds. All my memories were now "created by me". All my knowldege was also "created by me". I was switching from life to life in a mere matter of seconds. I also noticed that I could alter the people, bringing them here to me and then creating new people. I started to then think that I was a "creature" because my body kept feeling like it was morphing and moving. The 3-second jumps were still happening.

I was able however, to channel my thoughts and go down streams or highways of conciousness, living lives I chose and putting myself in places that were comfortable. Despite how hard I tried to hold myself in these places, I was also jerked into another without being able to control it.

I kept feeling like my life was ending, everything would get so intense that I would ball up in the chair nearly crying, and then I would die...I would then get "reborn" again and start the whole process of living out entire lives in seconds over and over. I felt like I was in a constant repeating loop that would never end.

I remember also having a full OEV of myself floating spread eagle in orbit over the earth. It was at this point I stood up, walked to the fire and spread out my arms trying to "fly" like superman (who I also invented).

On my way back to my chair I fell down and laid on the ground. I felt once again like I was dying and people were all aroud me trying to see if I was ok. I was picked up and put in my chair once again, no bumps or buises to report today.

I was thinking to myself that I had reached an entireley new level of tripping, and that I would now never be able to return to the life I lived because it had all been invented and created by me. These thoughts lead me to wonder if I was God, alone and creating everything around me.

I had lost all touch with reality. I was babbling to myself, shouting strange things like, "Bluegrass '72!" ...I wasn't even alive then, and the event isn't even that old...

The strangest thing was that time seemed to go extremley fast. Before I knew it T, K and myself were back at the cabin. I laid down in the dark and what seemed like mere minutes went by. I was told by T that I laid there for an hour and then suddenly came to and was totally down. I remember at that point slowly going, "Ok...I have a mother/father..." and things like that, piecing together my real life bit by bit. Thinking chronologically of the events leading up to my trip helped me out.

I went back to bed and woke up feeling very run down with a headache. I tripped much harder than anyone in the group there, and several times the night before people were commenting that, "the shrooms had gotten to him" or that "he's gone compleltley nutty".

I'm going to take a break from psychadelics for a whille. Last night was so intense, like I said I can only remember such small pieces of events. I really am currious to know if anyone who is really experianced can tell me what the hell happened to me. Was I tripping into a new level or somthing? Are there "stages" that I can sort of place myself at?

All I know now is that weed is to asprin as morphine is to shrooms. Weed is so mellow and weak compared to the power of what I just went through.
 
So if I read that correctly, that was your second and third mushroom trip you just described?

I'm not sure I agree with your asprin analogy, surely you cannot have been expecting mushrooms to provide you with anything like a marijuana experience (or if you were.....yikes)

You'll learn from this, I can tell, and it will make you a better and stronger person.

Oh, and good work with the random "bluegrass 72!" calling, hahaha =D
 
Re: Two nights of tripping...I was God...?

DaDornta said:
I happen to have some feelings for K, shes single and really attractive. We both enjoy MJ and exploring our minds with things like DXM and shrooms. I felt very "connected" in sexual and non-sexual ways that entire night. It some instances, I felt like we co-existed together and I swore she could pick up on what I was feeling/seeing. I'm very confused about this part of the trip. I haven't mentioned this to K at all, and im wondering if I should ever mention it at all.

to end your confusion, telepathic linking from shrooms does exist.
you should talk to your friend about this, and the only thing you
should worry about is how much your friend is willing to admit or
how much your friend has reppressed.

of course creating a telpathic link with someone is a bit dependant
on certain factors. (ex. dose level between the two trippers,
attentiveness and the mutual understanding to invade each
other's mind plays a key role to a more succesful
telepathic connection.)

invading peoples thoughts by force can be done, but an average mind
can easily repress a novice telepath.

then you have those who can leave a strong imprint on someone's
mind at will and those who are very sensitive and open to other
people's thoughts.

be careful when playing around with telepathy or the paranormal
in general, sometimes you might not be able to handle what you
wanted or bargained for...Have the consent of the person before
you enter their minds with respect.
 
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Great report sounds like you've learned alot or will. Anyway, I feel as though you should talk to K about what happend. . There are plenty of us on this board who believe in what you went through with certian psychedelics.
 
Bluegrass & tripping

Something about Bluegrass is tripping friendly -- I wasn't aware that anybody besides me really knew it.

I have tripped my brains out at Bluegrass festivals, and so far as I knew, I was the only one doing it. I mean, everybody was smoking weed and drinking, but I didn't know if anybody else was tripping!

Bluegrass and psychedelics -- they're not just for breakfast anymore!
:)
 
I really don't know how to go about talking to K about what happend. I mean, it actually FELT, and LOOKED like we were having sex. At times I would just *look* at K and suddenly all these "hot" and "sexual" images and sensations came over me. i'd say to myself then, "wow..thats some hot stuff..." And it seemed as if she knew somehow what I was feeling/seeing/thinking. It didn't bother me though at the time, because it almost seemed that somtimes I would create the connection, and other times my mind would be invaded by these thoughts, which would lead me to look over at K.

I wonder however, if this was all in my head. I have NO idea if K has any sort of feelings for me at all, and this could have just been manifestations of my own brain. But like I said before, I felt like i was being invaded by these sexual thoughts.

I guess in retrospect thinking about the "power" I had over my surroundings, I would call it the "puppetmaster" syndrome. I could make people say whatever I wanted, or do whatever I wanted. I didn't however purposefully try to invade K's mind and mentally "rape her" or anything.

In a way I also got the vibe that she was enjoying and playing around with me durring those wierd moments of connection.

K is a really cool girl who is very seasoned on shrooms. It's totally possible that she had much more control over her mental powers than I did, and might have actually picked up on what I was thinking was going on.

After this experiance I think if I do psychadelics again it will be 2C-I or somthing with less "mindfuck" potential. Pretty visuals and stuff is ok and I can handle that...but when I forget that i'm on shrooms and think that I'm stuck in a never-ending loop of confusion, the drug looses all of it's recreational value and it becomes a fight to stay sane and alive. Unfortunatley early on I lost that fight and surrendered to the power of the shrooms. Bad idea to anyone considering tripping. You must not let the substance make you it's bitch...Make the substance YOUR BITCH. I've learned that now.

This whole ordeal was quite surprising because of the standard 3.5 gram dose. I've taken mass quanitites of dexalone and robo and totally lost touch with reality and my body, exploring the highly dissasociative effects of DXM.

I was very foolish to think that my weed lifestyle (at least 1-2 grams to myself a day), and my numerous DXM encounters could help prepare me. Another lesson learned to those who are new: Only experience with a certain substance can help you prepare to take that same drug again. Just because you can handle heroic doses of acid or X dosen't mean that shrooms won't kick your ass. Lesson learned, and hopefully others will read this and start low and go slow.

Oh, BTW both K and myself ate 3.5 grams of the same species of shrooms. I obviously tripped about two to three times as hard as K, but I attribute that to how my internal plumbing has been re-wired. The shrooms didn't sit in my stomach at all, but instead went immediatley to my small intestines where most of the active chemicals are absorbed.

I just remembered an additional part of my trip: Several times durring the sensation of "loosing all physical control" I got the impression and sensations that all kinds of things were happening to me all at the same time. I was having sex with strangers, doing other drugs, taking off my clothes...all kinds of wierd and non-typical behavior of mine. I remember thinking to myself, "man im going to be so ashamed in the morning..im doing all this insane and crazy stuff with all these hundreds of people..."

It was very, very bizare. Can someone tell me if they've also experianced anything even close to this before?
 
Oh, and if it helps out any for clarification purposes, I remember thinking in my head, "Ok, well now I know what it's like to have sex with K...so now I know..." and it actually made me quite happy at the time because of the latent and hidden feelings I have for this girl.

Also, the mutual friend of K and me that introduced us always thought we should get together. He mentioned it to me on occasion, and apparently he told me he had mentioned it to her. No idea how she reacted...our mutual friend wouldn't say how she reacted to his suggestion.
 
Great report man :tup:

"Bluegrass '72!" hahahaha that had me cracking up man - dont worry, I say wierd shit like that when I'm not on shrooms. :D
 
Soul, can you give me lessons in telepathy? I'd love to run around festivals on acid messing with people's minds ;)

(BTW I've only experienced telepathy on DXM, of all drugs)
 
bluedolphin said:
Soul, can you give me lessons in telepathy? I'd love to run around festivals on acid messing with people's minds ;)

(BTW I've only experienced telepathy on DXM, of all drugs)

I hope you were kidding with messing with people's minds on acid...
i know of people who are still emotionally and psychologically
wrecked because certain people chose to abuse the gift of telepathy
on others while they were tripping. I don't think you would like it if
someone polluted your mind with thier own malicious thoughts about you
especially if you would not been able to filter these thought out.

what i mentioned above should be enough for anyone to practice
and learn telepathy. shrooms are great for telepathic work.

the best time to learn telepathy is with a loved one , especially with
beginners. It's easier to open your mind with someone you know to send/receive thoughts rather than with someone you don't or hardly know.

If you abuse this gift, just hope it's not with the wrong person. I also know of
people who can make other's seriously ill with a diffrent form of telepathy.
that said, you better use the gift wisely.
 
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Soul, do you think that maybe both of us could have been thinking recently beforehand about sex, and been unknowingly "transmitting" sexual thoughts/desires back and forth? Perhaps the first time was a fluke, causing the odds of it happening to increase. It happened an estimated 3-4 times in the course of 5 hours.

Im just so leery of talking to her because im totally unsure as to whether or not it was only happening to me and me alone. I did have the ability to make people say/do whatever I wanted later on in the trip...

I would hate to bring up all this embarasing stuff to her and have her be all wierded out and not want to be friends anymore!
 
DaDornta said:
Soul, do you think that maybe both of us could have been thinking recently beforehand about sex, and been unknowingly "transmitting" sexual thoughts/desires back and forth? Perhaps the first time was a fluke, causing the odds of it happening to increase. It happened an estimated 3-4 times in the course of 5 hours.

Im just so leery of talking to her because im totally unsure as to whether or not it was only happening to me and me alone. I did have the ability to make people say/do whatever I wanted later on in the trip...

I would hate to bring up all this embarasing stuff to her and have her be all wierded out and not want to be friends anymore!

if i was there then perhaps i would have been able to tell you what
the both of you were thinking at that momment. since that is not the
case i think the best thing for you is to talk to and be honest with
her. if you can't even stomach that then why don't you try another
trip date with her alone? try and explain to her the possibilities of
telepathy while tripping on shooms and that it would be a interesting
project to do. nothing beats having a conversation between minds
without physically talking especially with first timers. if anything this
kind of connection might bring the two of you closer....
 
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Agreed, she is "interested" in 2c-i...perhaps we might try that one for the first time together.
 
wow.... awesome report
best I have read on here in a while...reminds me so much of my own intense psych experiences... some of the ideas you mentioned are so familiar it is scary.
I remember thinking and saying that I had done everything now in life I had ever wanted to do. I can't even begin to desribe the emotions and feelings involved with this realization.
I felt this on one of my first higer dose trips... its a truly liberating, freeing experience. Hold on to it.
All my memories were now "created by me". All my knowldege was also "created by me"
The funny thing is... that these are simple observable truths in everyday life...it is amazing how much of a deeper understanding and meaning you can gain of these ideas on psychs..... of course "your" memories and knowledge are created by you... they arent created by anyone else..... such a simple realisation can be so intense.... it is often the simplest of ideas that are the most powerfull.
I felt like I was in a constant repeating loop that would never end.
Welcome to the infinite..... a fun place to visit, totally intriguing and mesmorizing but it is not a place i feel totally comfortable with, it can be a scary place when you realise there is no end... I would be interested to hear you elaborate on your experience in this area
I was thinking to myself that I had reached an entireley new level of tripping, and that I would now never be able to return to the life I lived because it had all been invented and created by me. These thoughts lead me to wonder if I was God, alone and creating everything around me.
A familiar feeling also.....of course you do return to the real world.... but you are never quite the same.... but this can be for the better.
I remember at that point slowly going, "Ok...I have a mother/father..." and things like that, piecing together my real life bit by bit.
This is soooo familiar...... I had to do this also..... after having reality totally torn down you are left with an empty mind that has to be rebuilt with simple ideas like this from scratch. A bit scary at the time but realising that you have the power to rebuild your own mind as you choose is a powerful idea.


anyways.... awesome report
peace...
 
Yes telelpathy can be experienced on a number of hallucinegens though I might add subconcious projections at times can make u feel as if it is a telepathic experience when in fact it's just ur hidden or deep desires to have such thoughts or experiences. So don't always take it so profoundly. I personally have not read minds as such, but I have projected visuals of my own concious creation to other ppls minds and that has really SPUN me out. Like once on a strong mda + mdma pill, I remember I was able to project any image I wanted in a dark room. I projected a neon green giant bug crawling across the cieling. In the morning when me and my friends were coming down, I did not make any mention of this, and one of the chicks who was peaking/tripping with us, she was goin on about how she saw a giant green neon bug crawling across the cieling :D Another time on lsd I was looking at the clouds while walkin with a mate I gave a free tab to, and I remember I was making the clouds out to look like dragons making love in the sky, then my mate goes "why are those dragons fucking!?". These are two of many experieces I have had, but these were more amusing because I never had to make mention of anything.

Peace Out
 
I belive there was a "collective" conciousness out there that weekend. There were litterally thousands of people tripping on every known substance to rediculous levels. At one point a guy staggered up to us yelling, "I am the scarecrow! I am the diseased!"...

I think that the reason I was living lives and having sensations has to do with the fact there were so many altered minds around me. Perhaps leaking out weak telepathic signals, or just the setting of so many people on drugs created the trip. Either way...I now feel that perhaps all the "flashes" of sensation/vision/emotion were due to the large ammount of fellow trippers. Like I said, perhaps telepathically, or just due to setting.
 
soul said:
I hope you were kidding with messing with people's minds on acid...
i know of people who are still emotionally and psychologically
wrecked because certain people chose to abuse the gift of telepathy
on others while they were tripping.

8( 8)

"telepathy" as you call it, is present in every day life. it's what happens when anyone speaks and someone else listens. One brain translates thoughts into mouth sounds, that are reinterpreted by the listener back into thoughts. There is nothing supernatural about telepathy, it's just a mechanism that humans developed to help navigate their social environment.

when you make something supernatural by talking about it as if it were, you erase the possibility of understanding the biological mechanisms behind it, please don't do this. instead realize how easy it is for a sober person to hurt another sober person... all you have to do is call them a bad name. tell them they are a bad person and that use some racial slur or other degrading comment. you'll see how quickly they begin to feel lessened. this is not telepathy, this is communication.

what you are doing by preaching is making the subject mysterious so that you appear to be the heirarchally superior holder of this information. next someone can ask, WOW YOU KNOW SO MUCH TEACH ME. you're playing a power game by inventing a powerful position and then calling yourself an expert.

maybe you're not doing these things consciously or on purpose, but this does not matter. maybe you have listened to others that have told you these things, and they believed them as you do. i am only asking you not to spread the disease any further. mysticism and religion are institutions meant to maintain class superiority

please write back i would like to continue this conversation in a respectful way, sorry if i have offended you, i meant only to assert my opinion
 
to add my thoughts on psychedelic "telepathy" I have to say that i have been to places on mushrooms and other drugs where i felt like i was indeed 'reading' the minds of other individuals.

what you to understand is that you're not reading their minds, you're simply more tuned into the controls that allow us to read each other that are always there assisting our moods and actions. by taking mushrooms you simply make these communicational means more explicit, and not hidden under layers of evolutionary masks that keep them buried under our subconscious. if we were explicitly aware of these means of communication all the time, it would be much less efficient and time consuming to do all of our societal behaviors! keeping these senses automatic makes the effiecient society we have developed possible
 
what happens when those filters get too polluted and you 'decide' to just disengage them... or more.... what happens when the filters just become worn out?

that's happened to me.. I observe too much at all times
 
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