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Mushrooms + bromo-dragonfly - First Time - A night with Shrooms and Bromo-DragonFLY

delsymfan

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A bud and I have been planning a trip night for my time back from Peru. I've been there for a while and we've always been trip buddies.

Planned on using 2C-E but stupid veterans day delayed the shipping, and we had a Wolfmother concert to attend to last night, so it HAD to be that night.

Fortunately, all was not lost. We had 1/8th of shrooms, and 500mg of Bromo-DragonFLY (bdf from now on). The BDF was the one from the b1 batch that was supposed to be 2C-B-FLY, and killed two people. However its since been shown to be at least 95% pure BDF so I felt safe trying it.

We split the 1/8th of shrooms at 12:20 AM (T) And at the same time, dosed probably about 220 micrograms of BDF each. BDF is known to take about 6 hours to peak, so I figured the shrooms would be long gone by then.

At about T+30min effects were noticeable. Giddy as hell and just having a very relaxed time. Visuals were creeping in. Most notably the classic patterns appearing on every surface.

T+1hr
brought about a very enjoyable visual strength. Mentally I felt fairly normal, I wasn't thinking too differently. However I was a bit mentally slow, I couldnt quite spit out good profound sentences at this point. I would say, for about a fifteen minute I would call it +++. I think once I got adjusted to that state, it was more of a ++.5.

T+1.5hr
. Visuals increased a good bit. My rooms walls opened up quite a bit, and I felt like I was in a spacecraft. There was a neat orange backlight to the wall, behind a dresser. This made it look like I was in space, and the sun was behind this furniture. It was very cool, just felt like i was floating through the space.

T+2hr, At this point I felt stable. Enjoying looking at things in general. Checking out photos of machu picchu and other peru things. Reflecting on photos from my peru voyages was profound, and I could almost picture myself as an ancient person living in the homes that I walked through. It also got me thinking deeply about how horribly we've treated people throughout history. In particular, the holocaust and treatment of natives. I then pondered what the next horrible thing would be.

Around T+2.5hr
I felt almost come-downy. Like it had dropped off just a bit. Like it was still steady effects, but less than what they were at T+2. Like a secondary plateau drop off. Went outside for a smoke, and man it was cold (32F) and that seemed to re-awaken the system with a temperature shock.

At T+3hr, nearly exactly, I noticed a sharp energy spike. Like a new alertness. I possibly considered this being an early alert from the BDF which is a substituted amphetamine, making it an energy booster.

The next hour was relatively interesting visually, more of the same basically.

At T+4hr, I was getting sleepy. 4:20 in the AM and we hit the Wolfmother concert so headbanging and moshing was exhausting. But I hung in there. At this moment, I felt in between the two drugs. Like there was almost nothing in me. I filled the time with a couple smokes.

The next hour, I was quite tired and a bit bored. The shrooms had died, and left me wanting more. But I knew the BDF was lying in wait.

At T+6hr I noticed an increase in energy, and sleep no longer seemed necessary. In addition the visuals started to increase. A general glow about things was noticed. And a slight wave crept across my screen as I typed.

Slowly these visuals increased, but still, quite slowly. 200ug is not a big dose.

At T+7hr the visuals really started ramping up though. Patterns forming everywhere, and they were glowing. Waves of blue and green energy flowed through the patterns. CEV's of classic psychedelic fractals were noted.

My room curved somehow. The Ceiling bended into an arch, and it felt like i was in a Silo but on its side. Or perhaps another description would be like being in a big ass MRI machine.

However, the energy element subsided, and at T+8hr I decided to take 1.5mg of xanax to try for sleep. Enjoying the visuals for about half an hour later, I crashed.

Awaking at T+12, there was virtually nothing of note left from the BDF. I imagine I slept through the better parts of it, but was too tired to enjoy it anyway.



In summation, I found the shrooms to be very interesting. They allowed me to see INTO things and observe crazy things inside them, while never actually leaving their boundaries. Tryptamines and PEAs swirl things and make them move outside of their real place, but I found the shrooms to keep everything where it was, but add layers upon layers of depth to what I saw inside them.

The shrooms also were quite opening mentally and emotionally, however I didn't really want to go to some of those places with my best friend. The parents are divorcing and its quite a sad situation. I chose to keep the trip positive, despite possible benefits from focusing on issues like that and trying to analyze them. But thats better saved for a solo trip in my mind.

And the BDF, while being a terribly slow onsetter, seems to have high potential, perhaps at a dose closer to 300ug or somewhere around there. No negative body load was noted, other than a bit of restlessness from the energy early on.

So thats the TR. Feel free to ask questions.


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bdfly is very slow in its action. thanks for posting. i will add a report or two when i get around to trying this batch.
 
I would be a little careful in deciding that 200ug of BDF is a small dose. Because the shrooms set in so quickly, and they leave a large tolerance once they're gone, they might have lessened the effects of the BDF massively.

Even though you took them at the same time, with the 6 hour delay, it could be more like redosing on a psychedelic.

When I took 6mg of 5-MeO-MiPT at the tail end of a LSD trip, it did basically nothing, while 6mg on its own would leave me with a rushing feeling and a lovely trip. Sounds like a fun trip though. Try the shrooms on their own, on a beautiful day outdoors. It's the best thing in the world, haha.
 
i would be a little careful in deciding that 200ug of bdf is a small dose. Because the shrooms set in so quickly, and they leave a large tolerance once they're gone, they might have lessened the effects of the bdf massively.
+1.
 
Good point Cegli. Hadn't even thought of that.

How much cross tolerance do shrooms leave on PEA's such as 2C-E/DOC/DOB-DragonFLY like what I took.

In either case I imagine the next step up in dosing would still be low, probably 300ug for the next run. Still well in a safe range.
 
Planned on using 2C-E but stupid veterans day delayed the shipping,-- really i didn't read anything past this. i don't consider my self overtly patriotic but this is such a dumb thing to say. That stupid holiday is in rememberance for the epople that gave there lives for our country so sorry if you can;t get your drugs on that day. You should grow up a little and check your priorties in life
 
Man, he's not from the US. He's not even from North America. Thus he may not care about a US holiday. Just like you might say stupid "Battle of Angamos" day delayed your shipment. Not everyone on bluelight lives in the US. I think we'd probably all agree that the loss of any human life in war is tragic though.

Good point Cegli. Hadn't even thought of that.

How much cross tolerance do shrooms leave on PEA's such as 2C-E/DOC/DOB-DragonFLY like what I took.

They would have a pretty large tolerance, because they both hit 5-HT2a, and 5-HT2c, and the tolerance is pretty much set by the peak of your first trip. Without those receptors cycling any trip stops. I wouldn't be surprised if the 200mcg felt more like 50mcg. It's really hard to say though. Just be careful.

I'm am interested in more BDF trip reports, even if it's not a chemical I'd play with. Good luck!
 
Planned on using 2C-E but stupid veterans day delayed the shipping,-- really i didn't read anything past this. i don't consider my self overtly patriotic but this is such a dumb thing to say. That stupid holiday is in rememberance for the epople that gave there lives for our country so sorry if you can;t get your drugs on that day. You should grow up a little and check your priorties in life


Mmk in the first place for the record I AM american living in Lima.

Secondly I have immense respect for anybody who risks their life in a war. Even if its the most pointless war in our country's history.

You understand it was the fact that I think the post office is closed that is stupid, not the fact that it was veterans day. The majority of standard jobs do not close on vet's day unless they've got a lovely labor union or are a gov. job. I find it stupid that my mail is not being delivered on a normal day. Thats all. Dont take it personal. I think its stupid when the post office is closed on xmas or thanksgiving or something like that too. I'm really Anti-closing of any government service.
 
Planned on using 2C-E but stupid veterans day delayed the shipping,-- really i didn't read anything past this. i don't consider my self overtly patriotic but this is such a dumb thing to say. That stupid holiday is in rememberance for the epople that gave there lives for our country so sorry if you can;t get your drugs on that day. You should grow up a little and check your priorties in life

"On this Day of Remembrance let us not kneel and pray for the dead. Let us stand and activate for the living, to rescue those about to die."

At the hands of bullshit politicians; bloated pin-dick motherfuckers who bow and curtsy to the seats of power. We'll never learn and nothing will ever change as long as we stay this course of followers and slaves. I can't believe we're still content reshuffling the same old decks of kings and queens and faux-democracies. I say we hand it back to the bullshit politicians.

I obviously believe any loss of life is horrendous, but let's not get out the statistics of how many children throughout the world are dying RIGHT NOW. Let's all get our priorities in life straight and maybe focus on those that are dying as we speak?

Anyways... Nice trip report! Mushrooms are also a tryptamine, so it's interesting you found they contrasted to other tryptamines by allowing you to see INTO things, whereas you notice other tryptamines and phenethylamines swirl things and make them move outside of their real place. I wonder if there is any reason why psylocibin cubensis would be different?
 
Good point Cegli. Hadn't even thought of that.

How much cross tolerance do shrooms leave on PEA's such as 2C-E/DOC/DOB-DragonFLY like what I took.

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All 5HT2a agaonists exert tolerance, regardless of whethe they are tryptamines, PEAS, or carrots.
 
I dont know, my only real tryptamine experiences are AMT and DiPT.

I'd say it was quite interesting how stuff just kept appearing INSIDE the boundaries of the objects I'd examine. I haven't seen anything quite like that before.

And thats an excellent point about death in general. We got africans chopping eachother, kids starving when we have enough food to feed like 10 billion people, and then theres detroit :)
 
How did you measure out the 220mcg? Do you have a $10,000 scale or what?

Planned on using 2C-E but stupid veterans day delayed the shipping,-- really i didn't read anything past this. i don't consider my self overtly patriotic but this is such a dumb thing to say. That stupid holiday is in rememberance for the epople that gave there lives for our country so sorry if you can;t get your drugs on that day. You should grow up a little and check your priorties in life
Not everybody worships the government or soldiers or likes being inconvenienced.
 
Measuring was done as follows:

1 gram of BDF was purchased, it was not measured however.

the "gram" was then diluted into alcohol to divide into two equal parts (I split the buy with somebody).

The 500mg that I received came moist in a baggie, and was promptly placed in 500ml of purified water, to be 1mg/ml. Using a small 3ml syringe with .1ml tick marks, I can easily measure out a dosage.

Effects seem consistent with reported dosage.
 
^ Just the same, I'd avoid relying on any vendor's claimed weight--especially with this stuff. I mean you were careful and dosed low, but just for the record...
 
I know and thats understandable. Regardless we have to make due with what we have, and thats why I dosed myself on the low end of the spectrum.

a fellow BL'er is experimenting with 300ug right now. perhaps he can contribute later.
 
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