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Mushrooms augmented with opiates - Experienced - The secret of Euphoria.

TheTripDoctor

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This is probably the most enjoyable and nicest trip i have ever had, this was 2 days ago, around 2am i decide that i want to take psilocybin and trip as i just got the 2oz of them and i wanted to try them since i hadnt had shrooms in a long time. I had used around 40mg of oxycontin from an 80mg a little before this point so i was very relaxed and feeling very nice.
so at 2am, i take out less than an 1/8th, maybe 4 caps, and aroud 5 stems i think, i cant be sure, i just was eating them like food. i know i ate no more than an 1/8th though. Some caps were very large as were the stems.
I ate these and around 3am i began to see the effects, i couldnt feel anything different, but i knew it was coming on, words began to have slightly different color hues on my screen, things bent and contorted around, and i felt as though things were becoming alive, the wood grain in the floor started to dance around and all that, small black specks began to look like ants dancing around.
This got stronger until around 4am when i noticed i was hearing my own voice echo in my head when i talked, it was funny and quite amusing, i never have had that happen before. the thing was i could tell the voice was inside my head i wasnt hearing it from around the corner or "over there" away from me.
I decided to take some more oxycontin and i crushed up 40mg and snorted it, 5 minutes later i began to feel soo good, i have never felt such nice euphoria in a long long time, i couldnt stop smiling, laughing, and just siting there feeling awesome, i felt i had discovered the secret to feeling euphoric.
I went downstairs and it was geting light out by now, i went and sat in the back doorway with the screen door open, and pet my dog. i looked around the back yard, i saw mulch on the ground moving around alive, i looked at trees at the leaves were moving around like hands, the branches swaying in some kind of universal dance, i saw the grain moving up the trunk, and i could literally feel the life force in this tree, it was communicating with me, and i felt at such peace, i knew that the whole world was alive and not just trees in the ground, or grass growing, or wood made into a fence, it all had life in it, and would communicate to me that i was very understanding and open minded, and that i was experiencing what the world is really like, everything is aware of whats going on, not just animals, but everything that grows, lives, even not living anymore, it all has a life force in it that observes what goes on.
I was of course amused by all the movement in things that never move, but what really got me was that i felt so alive, so amazing, everything was going to be ok, i knew that there is a world or a reality un seen by most people, and that it is in tune with everything that goes on, there is a hypercontinuum of life that we cant see or understand normally, but this life form, the mushroom, has taken its knowledge and imparted it into me for these few hours, i felt it was showing me things, look here, look there, feel this, isnt this grand?
It showed me the real world, and i knew that all this religion and organzied crap is completely wrong, this is what is really unseen and behind all the mysteries of life, why everything fits together so well, it is not a coincidence that certain animals who need certain foods are able to get it in there enviornment, its not a coincidence that everything is so in tune, or connected, for example one animal has an animal it needs for food, and this animal is present in the others environment.
The big one is water, we need water indefinately to survive, and this planet is made up mostly of water, it is like the planet is catered to its inhabitents, made so that we can survive, so many things are such that we are able to continue living, the trees take the Co2 that we breath out into them, turn it into oxygen that we can once again breath, this is no coincidence, it is as if all of this is planned out and set up for us, and there is no way it all hapened by chance, there is too much that specifically takes care of us, and this is all the result of this life force, this hypercontinuum.
I dont know everything about it, but i do know the truth about why everything comes together so pefectly now, and i plan on researching and exploring it much further.
And to anyone who thinks all of these things are as a result of some "god", i say to you, that god may be possible, but organized religion has NOTHING to do with it if there is a "god", no churches, no preists, no gathering like idiots to "pray",
if there was a god, he would definately not let people sit and be forced to believe with no proof, well i say to you, my belief has just shown me proof that it exists, and that i was right, it has no problem proving itself to me, as why would something expect you to believe with no proof? they wouldnt, yet this is how organized religion continues, "blind faith", believe because we tell you to. thats bullshit. and what do these organized religions do when questioned? nothing, they pretend that "god" will take care of them, and "god" has his plan in mind and whatever happens is his will, what a perfect way to disguise the fact that there is no god controlling anything, because whatever happens would happen anyway, and they act like it was all gods plan.
i invite you all to try this combination, the endorphins cause you to feel at such peace and let you experience what the mushroom wants to show you, without being scared or the like.
have fun
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[ 05 September 2002: Message edited by: shannabanana ]
 
that was a WONDERFUL trip report.. wow. good job. dayum. hopefully i can experience something like that tomarrow.
you deserve a euphoric moment like that in your life, with all that physical pain that you've been gong through.
[This message has been edited by dpp (edited 20 July 2001).]
 
Well I understand your viewpoint on religion and agree that most people do not question anything and follow just like sheep, which is what religions were made for. But I would like for you to think about this: perhaps god did give us proof of his existence, take a look around you...all those things you were seeing and experiencing during your trip, maybe that IS the proof. Everything was planned perfectly indeed, so maybe this is the way it has to be. Imagine if god would just show himself to us, people would not react in a way which would be suitable for god. We are given complete freedom of choice in life, and that may alter or violate it somehow if god just shows himself. Anyways enough rambling, hopefully you can see some of the points in this..
I wish you good luck in going further and please share the knowledge you obtain in the future.
 
Beautiful, man. Absolutely beautiful.
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That's the type of trip I strive for. Congratz on acheiving it.
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Oh shit man!
That sounds SOO much like this experience I read that this lady had. She's one of those new age spiritualist type peoples and she was shown by God or her spirit guide or whatever what reality really is. And the experience she had sounded similar to yours. The trees and flowers dancing and seeming to communicate to her, everything was really beautiful and in harmony etc... She was being SHOWN like you said you felt.
Anyone know where I can get some opiates?
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And I gotta tell you that I feel the same way about religion as you do. Always have! But I still believe in God.
Christianity sucks, God rocks!
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[This message has been edited by The HiVe MiND (edited 21 July 2001).]
 
Nice one! Very reminiscent of my LSD/2C-T-7 and K experiences.....remove the sensory input from the body and let the mind go free.....the worlds organised religions DO seem ridiculous to me now and I've come round to the idea that everyone needs their own religion, personally tailored to their beliefs. For me "God" is a metaphor for "the universe" - infinite, everywhere and moving in mysterious ways - I'm getting a grip on some of them, albeit not fast enough.
 
Trip, nice report man. I'm glad you had such a great trip as I just had a horrible one yesterday. I think I am done with acid/shrooms now. I think some people can handle them and others can't. Two times now I have had a terrible trips, once on acid and last night on shrooms. I don't understand why this keeps happening to me. I have had one wonderful experience on shrooms and have not been able to achieve that again since. I don't know what's wrong with me. I don't think it was the setting, as I was in an empty house with 2 other friends tripping. I dunno, I realize I don't think I'm going to do this anymore though. Now I'm done rambling, nice report man.
 
You know, I'm struck by the fact that it took these drug experiences for you and the other people mentioned in this thread to realize that organized religion is a crock and the other things you said about the interconnectedness and being shown what reality really is. To me that's always been a no-brainer, needed no drugs to notice that sort of stuff.
After having this thought, I began to wonder if that meant anything about me relative to you/etc., but you know what? Probably not. You needed a drug experience for *that*; like as not, I need a drug experience for something else, something you consider to be a "no-brainer". They do different things for different people...
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I knew organized religion was shit before this.
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some of you are confusing some things, when i say god i refer to christianities idea of the higher power, when i say something about life forces and the hypercontinuum, im refering to what is really there, because that is about the most accurate thing i can think of to relate it, and god is too affiliated with christianity to really use it.
i would rather call it something like the reason everything comes together as it does, the secret behind it all, why tryptamines are present in plants and why our brains are based on tryptamine, why it all ties together, i have seen and been a part of whatever it is on a high dose ketamine experience, i know what is out there but its not possible to describe it. I can affirm that there is no god as thought of by christians, rather there is an unseen continuum of all kinds of life and energy controling things.
It should be immediately obvious to anyone as soon as they understand that organized religion makes no sense.
Also if you discount what happens on drugs i ask you how is that different than what happens without external drugs, as our bodys do the same thing these drugs do anyway, there is DMT present in the bodys of most people about all the time, something to think about
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Mushrooms and opiates are a beautiful thing! Smackerooms (musrooms w/ heroin) are the most common where I'm from. Alot of times when I've done an opiate in conjunction with a trytamine, I've noticed that the opiate tends to amplify the subjective effects of the tryptamine. Be careful though! Opiates aren't something to be messing around with too much. I've noticed DXM (which has effects similar to both opiates and dissociatives) coupled with a tryptamine to be an enjoyable (not to mention safer) synergy. Just beware of serotonin syndrome. Nasty feeling.
 
Why, dark-whatever your name is, do you say that opiates arent something to mess with? and also why do you think dxm is safer? its not, im about sick of people injecting there opinion of opiates in EVERY POST, everyone on here thinks they have to save us all from these terrible opiates, PLEASE.
Opiates are NON TOXIC, dxm IS NOT, that makes opiates safer HANDS DOWN, where are you pulling that they arent as safe from? your ass ?
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just kidding i dont mean to be harsh but if you were aware of the full picture about opiates you would know theyre safer than even water in that they cause NO physical damage. DXM will not replace the effect of opiates either, and it can cause brain damage as well. Opiates then are QUITE safer as you can see.
With opiates all you have to worry about is becoming addicted to the subjective "high" feeling, and even that is a crock of shit, you need your natural endorphins everyday to feel normal, most addicts to opiates are using them because they are endorphin deficient, so they are normalizing there brain chemistry.
Im gonna make a post about this kind of opiate hysteria going on here soon, i dont want people puting a sentence in EVERY post about them that they arent something to mess with, which is wrong. This kind of shit is an extension of the hysteria on tv and in dare class and it has to stop, unfounded bullshit statements have no place here.
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[This message has been edited by TheTripDoctor (edited 04 September 2001).]
 
It wasn't my intention to spark a "reefer madness" type panic with regard to opiates. However, advocating the use of a substance without imparting words of caution is irresponsible and dangerous. That said, yes DXM is a dangerous drug. Repeated long-term use of DXM carries with it the risk of irreversible neurological and physical damage. Like LSD and other drugs that radically alter perception, users run the risk of aggravating latent mental illnesses. The difference between DXM and opiates (disregarding chemical composition and structure, subjective effects, etc) principally comes down to frequency of usage. On the issue of subjective effects, DXM's subjective effects are primarily psychedelic (abstract thought patterns, visual distortions, dissolution of ego), and lends itself more to infrequent usage (along with mushrooms, LSD, ketamine). However, like its cousin ketamine, DXM has addictive potential (mostly psychological). Speaking anecdotally, I can say that almost every person I know who has used or uses opiates found their first experience with an opiate to be pleasurable. As such, first time users are more likely to try and repeat the experience. Compare this to William White's "rule of thirds", where 1/3 of people using DXM for the first time hate it, 1/3 are indifferent towards it, and 1/3 enjoy it. My own subjective observations largely confirm White's claim. While no drug is entirely safe, the aforementioned are my reasons for believing DXM to be safe, comparatively speaking. You can talk down the addiction potential of drugs all you want. True, some people can moderate their use of drugs for the pleasure of the subjective effects alone, and the opiates are no exception. But countless people can't moderate their dosage of opiates. Have you ever held back the hair of your best friend vomiting in the toilet, who was paralyzed with cold sweats and violent shaking from heroin withdrawal? Don't begin to tout the benign nature of substance that has the power to condition the body to such severe reactions in the absence of regular dosages. That is sheer idiocy. If opiates were truly non-toxic like you claim, there would be no such thing as a heroin overdose. Where are you pulling your information out of? Your ass? (j/k. Sorry, I couldn't resist). It does not matter a shit what the reasons for dependence to a substance are. So what if opiate addiction derives from an endorphin imbalance in the brain? It just shows that the potential for dependence is real, and only serves to validate my point further. People are going to drugs no matter what I or anyone else says. But, responsible drug use requires considering the positive benefits as well as the negative consequences and then making an informed decision. Opiates are not innocuous substances, and should only be taken after careful thought and consideration like all substances. Don't fuel the media hype by becoming another statistic. Don't mean to piss on anyone's parade, just be careful out there!
 
Your not thinking logically probably so you can support your belief, but here goes.
Opiates are non toxic, your talking shit telling me they arent, they dont harm any part of your body in any way, period, thats the definition of non toxic buddy, heroin withdrawl does NOT MEAN ITS TOXIC, and that, you did pull from your ass because it makes no sense.
Opiate withdrawl is what happens when you take opiates for long enough that your body starts to counter for them to remain in normal balance, this countering is opiate mu receptor antagonism, so when you stop taking opiates all of a sudden you are left with antagonism, causeing you to have such severe reactions, that IS NOT TOXICITY BY ANY MEANS, and to say that it is proves you dont have the intelligence to converse on the subject rationally.
DXM, because of the action it has in the brain, is QUITE A BIT more toxic and unsafe compared to opiates, it can cause serious damage known as olneys lesions, it may be a phenathrene in structure but that makes no difference it doesnt affect opiate receptors, so thats irrelivent, its only an nmda antagonist. DXM also can cause serotonin syndrom which opiates cant, and you can safely take opiates with mdma, dxm and mdma has killed hundreds of people.
Also, dxm is not used in the same context as opiates in the first place, its used for recreation in the context of a psychedelic, for the psychedelic reactions it produces, NOT for euphoria or pain or to feel better as you do for opiates.
Also, there is no need for dxm to be taken so much, there is a need for opiates to be taken so much, and if everyones brains were chemically balanced, noone would be so compelled to keep using opiates as some do today, anyone with half a brain can understand that opiate addiction is almost ENTIRELY motivated by chemical imbalance, and it so happens that about 90% of people who are depressed are such because of deficient endorphin levels, they dont know that they are using a chemical that perfectly balances them out, they just know that they feel 100% better, and theyre right, they have normalized there chemistry and in this normalization they have done nothing wrong, what would be wrong with someone wanting to have there chemistry normal? absolutely nothing, and this is what most people call addiction, you could use opiates for your whole life and not suffer anything negative aside from problems from prohibition, and that isnt because of the drug if you can understand that.
You could NEVER use dxm that long, you couldnt even use it daily for a week or month because you would be a retard by the end of that period.
So i do hands down reccomend everyone try opiates and not dxm, it comes inherant that if you dont know how to use a drug you dont need to be using it, and i cant control the idiocy of the few just to prevent them from screwing up at the cost of those who could benifit greatly, people stand to save there lives by using opiates to help depression, and thats more important than a few idiots problem using drugs, because even they arent doing anything wrong.
I dont want this thread continued because its basically pointless now.
Please dont go after opiates just because of what you may have learned on tv or the media or dare class, its completely wrong, and if none of the media crap had ever happened you wouldnt even know about opiates so your whole "thing" with them is unfounded.
Reccomending dxm would be a lot more dangerous than reccomending someone get the correct solution to a major problem they have, addiction is a small matter.
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