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Mushrooms - 2nd time - bad again, but laughing at the end.

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2nd trip, bad again, but laughing at the end.

Well this was odd..

i had about 25 WET columbian P.cubensis on friday night, me and a friend had planned to do them together, just a small dosage like 12.5 WET each..

well we started off together eating probably around 6 grams each, and everything was good..

the party was set funny visuals every now and then, and well then i started freaking...

i kept walking off, thinking that everyone thought i was fucked, thinking they all knew i was on something, thinking i was a total ass, and started to regret takening them..

i then wondered into the woods, randomly, to get away from every one....

we must have had taken them around 12, and by 1:30 i had lost most of my contact with reality, i was in some bushes a fair way away, liing of the ground scared out of my head, gripping onto life, this is worse than when i drink to much...

i started taken photos to see where i needed to go, but i was scared some one would see me, so slowly but surely i started finding my way around..

every minute felt like an hour, i could see all sorts of crazy swiriling fractals, and mad colours everywhere, i had also drank a little and smoked A LITTLE..

at around 2/2:30 i started to make my way back, when i saw my mates i started asking if i looked allright and if i was making sense, it was then i realised how to control the shrooms and have a laugh - the peak had subsided, and i was having a right old laugh..

it was weird tho, because even though i had been lieing down, i was not dirty at all, or wet, infact i was perfectly clean, my head was confused, but things started to be funny because i was more saine!

i think what happend in both my trips was i had no trip sitter, the first time me and my mate just gave it ago, and had similar frightful epxerience, this time the same happend, except i comfronted ppl who didnt know i was on them who had on idea, even though i thought they must...

well this experience was fully blown, off 6 wet grams, in other words .6 dried..

the odd thing is its both level 2 and 4 combined at the same time.

Level 2
Bright colors, and visuals (i.e. things start to move and breathe), some 2 dimensional patterns become apparent upon shutting eyes. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. Change of short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Vast increase in creativity becomes apparent as the natural brain filter is bypassed.

Level 3
Very obvious visuals, everything looking curved and/or warped patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls, faces etc. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grained or "mother of pearl" surfaces. Closed eye hallucinations become 3 dimensional. There is some confusion of the senses (i.e. seeing sounds as colors, etcetera). Time distortions and "moments of eternity".

Level 4
Strong hallucinations, i.e. objects morphing into other objects. Destruction or multiple splitting of the ego. (Things start talking to you, or you find that you are feeling contradictory things simultaneously). Some loss of reality. Time becomes meaningless. Out of body experiences and e.s.p. type phenomena. Blending of the senses.

i had very obvious visuals, confused, distractive patterns, splitting of ego, some loss of reality, time was meaningless..

level 3 doesnt really sound like what i had, but 2 does sort of and so does 4, so its like inbetween these, but not 3..

its strange, but so is mushroom land, i hope to return there one day, because that amazing glow, and joy i felt when i was confident, made it special...

So whats the whole point? well i would like some comments? but .6grams, giving me a level 2/4?? how odd is that, could i be hyper sensitive to shrooms?

Thanks
 
ooo, yea just thought i would add that at 2:00 i was saying to my self if i am still like this i will kill my self, due to been so messed up, and even at some points i thought i was going to kiill my self because i was so scared.
 
is that 6 grams fresh, if so you must be very susceptible to the effets of mushrooms my friend reacts worse than me to them as if they were stronger but to get an experience such as that off that little is very strange, are you sure they were cubensis and not a more potent strain like psilocybe azurecens? if not thats brilliant you can get such effects off so little
 
this is true, i still have a 5grams, WET left of so, and will eat them in a few days and see... maybe i am not and over reacted...
 
this is exactly why i didnt want it here, because i never get many replies
 
some people are hyper sensitive to mushrooms. Perhaps you are. Half a gram of mushrooms sounds like a pretty small dose to me.

I would try repeating, also ask your friends what they felt?

Did your buddies trip just as hard?
 
my one friend started at the same dose, but he had around a full gram by the end of the night, they def affected him longer, but he disappeared into the tent for ages, probs cuz he started having a bad trip too..

we planned to stay together but it didnt reallly happen, he says he had a crazy trip too, but then he may also be less tolerant than most people, i certainly will try this variety again to see if anything happens as intense...

im putting it down to 2 things, one is i went off on my own, and got lost, this intensified the trip, because when i came back and grabbed a-hold of reality i felt much better.

perhaps when i loose the plot the experience gets harder and worse....

i mean it was half bad/half good trip...

damn these things confused the fuck outta me.
 
Losing the plot can be very hard when tripping.

I have taken small doses of mushrooms and felt like I was dying several times. It seems that you need something to do while your tripping.

Try this...

If you have a discman you should bring it. Put about 5-6 cds into case and bring them with you. Take no more, because once your tripping hard you don't want to have to look through a case of like 490278490238 cds.

Bring something to write/draw with. Doing this while your coming up can help anxiety and ease your mind.

ALLWAYS HAVE A PLAN. You need to plan a goal for your trip. Go somewhere, climb a mountain, build a spaceship. Just plan something that will take a few hours to do. You don't want to be tripping and then decide that you have nothing to do. that would suck.

If you have access to klonopin or Xanax or ativan you my try these when you start bugging out. A very small dose is most appopriate when your shit is hitting the fan.

I think your experiences will get better with time.
 
i think so too, next time it will be me and a mate 10 WET grams each, a few spliffs, watch a film later on or sommink, few more spliffs a few beers then bed - nothing can go wrong this way, i hope :S
 
the main reason why people freak out on shroom or LSD trips is because they dont know what to expect.. if u respect the drug and dont abuse it and use it as an escape, you will have a good trip.. these substances rnt toys.. if you treat them as such, they will fuck you over sideways... BELIEVE ME! going around with the attidude that "my friend had so and so grams and got fucked and i didnt" isnt a good idea because psychadelics in general are VERY unpredictable.. you dont know what is going to happen.. alot of their effects rely heavily on set and setting.. that is.. your mindframe at the time and your surroundings.. if you are in a bad mood the day you trip you run the risk of freaking out.. your surroundings play a big part too.. doing so much as turning the lights on or changing the music can have profound effects on the direction of your trip.. PLAN and trip wisely!
 
Ok, but the night was planned there was a party with 80 ppl i knew who cause no trouble and all drinking...

we know there are differences in tolerance's but abazaba was curious to know if these shrooms just happend to be MUCH more potent...

i know about set and setting and this was a great place to do it, but it just went wrong, i got catapulted into this awful paranoid place where i thought everything and everyone was looking at me, laughing at me, i was truly munted...

once i got the hang of it, it seemed alot LESS intense and more enjoyable..
 
You might find that in another setting and with a trip sitter, that amount might be fine for you, psychedelic tolerance is a grey area because of set and setting. Next time (if there is one) take your own advice and trip with someone you trust!

I can't believe you were tripping hard and to get away from everyone, you wandered into the woods alone! For your own sake next time, tell someone where you're going, even if nobody comes with you, just for safety.
 
^&^ that is so true, i over looked that on this occasion but i do remember saying that i was going to kill my self if i was still in the same state at 12 noon... and i was thinking about escaping the party because i didnt want any one to see me...

dumb dumb and dumb... mushrooms are powerful i already knew that and even on such a low dose hey can go very very wrong..

and yes there will be another time, because even that bad experience was relativly funny looking back on it - just dont wonder into woods, or trip alone i think is the moral of this sory
 
I agree, a lot of new trippers have bad trips because they don't plan the setting or what to do while tripping. Communication can become altered along as your perception, and this is enough for your brain to think oddly, and get a bit paranoid.

Focus is everything when tripping, focus on doing something that isnt staring at a wall and you might have a great trip :)
 
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