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Mushroom Season 2011 UK / Ireland / Anywhere else

2low, pessel and mortar

and if you don't have one of them then you might have to get all ghetto and use a knife and chopping board.
 
just left the field me and another few people go to, i acc seen two lads staring at the ground when i was leaving, there was none about (DAMN YOU HEADFUCK ;) ) i got literally 3, so left earlier than planned, glad i did, as i was leaving, i jumped on my bike and just as i got out through this wee wooden fence, a peeler van was coming down the hill, they stopped just opposite me, reversed back, swung round and pulled up parallel the other side of the field, that was enough for me, i got on my way at a steady speed, i am pretty high also so if they had stopped me they would of searched me for sure but would they even do much for 3 just? poor lads in the field tho, they seemed very friendly but disappointed when i told them there were little about :\

so people, be careful in them fields!!!!!
 
do you guys think you could handle tripping in a botanical gardens or a museum if there are going to be members of the public walking about?
 
^yes it would b wondrous and hilarious...i'd keep the dose low though - like 30-40 dried libs.
SpecialK_ said:
When it starts to get more frosty in the mornings.
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Erm negative.


First frost doesn't mean anything - you get more flushes usually - it's when it becomes consistently wintry that you're fucked..even then - if you go out EARLIER than usual you can often find the sillies frozen in the ice - it's when they thaw out that you'rer fucked coz they rot...so you need to deal with that...use your imagination, it's not hard ;)


Limpet -dude thanks for that post on the Cyancens...really helpful.

I have found my first bunch this morning...only 5,but still enough to get me excited. <3

Found a whole bunch o woodchip piles today too, so gonna keep an eye on them for the next few months.
 
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^yes it would b wondrous and hilarious...i'd keep the dose low though - like 30-40 dried libs.
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thats the thing, i plan on taking 180 libs.
maybe i should just go down to the beach like the last time but im bored of hanging around there.

so whats the deal with finding the P.cyanescens?
 
Cyans seem to like the cold. I find them when the lib season ends, and its got really cold. Printing is vital. Libs don't have deadly lookalikes, wavy caps have Conocybe filaris and Galerina autumnalis. All psilocybes have violetish black spores, the two amatoxic genera have rusty brown prints. Galerina have slight scales on half-ish of the stems length, C.filaris bears a transient ring also. The meixner test with HCl and a high lignin paper like newspaper will give after application of conc. HCl to a mashed sample of fungus tissue onto newspaper a blueish grey ring on indoles. Amatoxins and psilocin cross react with 100% certainty, so the Meixner test will determine if you have a mushroom that bears amatoxins or tryptamines but cannot tell between the two. After dropping a spot of HCl onto a sample of an amatoxic species or a psychedelic tryptamine bearing species crushed up onto high lignin paper (be aware that lab filter paper does not contain sufficient lignin for use here in this test often, so use a wood pulp based, high lignin paper, newspaper works though) a colored halo will form round the mushroom if it contains either amatoxins or psiloc(cyb)in.

Test takes 20 minutes or so, and is extremely sensitive, capable of revealing 2 micrograms per mililiter of amatoxin/psilocybin and can be acelerated by keeping the sample warm. Take controls with inactive, blank spots. Meixner test will not tell you WHAT is in the mushroom, but can be used to tell you one of the two is indeed present and you have a mushroom containing indoles. Both poison and drug react. As will tryptophan, a common constituent in many substrates. So it can be used to distinguish a possible C.filaris/deadly galerina/Psilocybe from a nontoxic, nonpsychedelic little brown mushroom, AKA LBM as we mycologists call your generic small brown mushroom.

You must familiarise yourself with Conocybes and Galerinas as well as desired species if you seek wavy caps. They look similar and can grow together in the same patch of woodchips, but spore printing will reveal a hidden nasty by the rust brown spores for either of the two little bastardlyshite LBM fakes, instead of the violet-blackish print of a Psilocybe cyanescens.

Know your mushrooms. Print every single shroom, the prints can be used also for establishing new spawn if you can master basic sterile lab technique, culture on potato-dextrose agar with an antibiotic, such as a penicillin, chloramphenicol is good in particular, avoid metronidazole as it only selects against anaerobes really. Do not take risks, and know the signs of amatoxin poisoning. A characteristic delayed onset of extreme nausea, vomiting, profuse diarrhea, stomach pains followed by a remission of symptoms on maybe 2 days post onset of poisoning, this is a false recovery, fulminant liver failure follows, as well as potential kidney failure. Early response is VITAL in amatoxin poisoning, the poison undergoes reabsorption via bile, and enterohepatic recirculation, causing the poison to be continuously recirculated for another pass, trashing the liver every time it goes around again until you die horribly.

Liver transplant is a life saver, there is no antidote, but survival rates have been improved by intravenous silymarin, massive doses of penicillin-K and supportive intensive care. P.cyanescens is an extremely potent species, containing a shitload of psilocin, and psilocybin. IIRC cyans contain more psilocin psilocybin, which is less stable, and stores less well over time. Keep in a dry environment, like a sealed glass jar, away from light. Adding a packet of dried sillica gel will help store them better, and if you want to be really thorough, packets of oxygen absorbent, such as those found in packets of beef jerky, or better yet, argon welding gas from a disposable cylinder to exclude air will preserve the mushrooms very well indeed over extended periods.


I am happy to help ID mushrooms of any sorts, post photos including spore prints, taken by placing the caps, with the stem snipped off by the side, as well as photos of the entire fresh mushroom , on aluminium foil. I cannot take the responsibility of telling you 'this mushroom should be eaten' but I can certainly help aid IDs. I know my fungi very, very well, selftaught since I was a little kid, been hunting for many years, so I have a pretty good mastery of the subject and an extensive realm of mycological experience, so fire away people. I'm the fun guy for fungi around these parts and am the one to come to.

If I haven't responded, PM me after a few days if needs be to draw my attention. I am not a very social interaction-inclined person and often go for ages without speaking to, or seeing anyone, but a PM will alert me by email, IF I haven't responded and as such, have possibly missed an iD request on the forums and have neglected to look online anywhere. Just remember that while I am very well knowledgeable about fungi, botany, I am NOT a substitute for attention, learning, and a careful, responsible examination of the mushrooms you have. I am happy to lend my expertise, but the responsibility for careeful identification lies with YOU. Failure to be careful, means potential slow, agonising death. There are old mushroom hunters, and bold mushroom hunters, the proverb goes, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters. Be responsible for conservation of the mushrooms. Smash up old, tattered and torn specimens, and distribute them over the suitable habitats, leave some mushrooms to develop, and drop spores to continue the reproduction and grow more mushrooms so as to not exhaust the area. Leave the very young mushrooms to develop, and not pillage the land. If everyone takes the young ones, before they have chance to mature and drop spores, there will be none for other people, and none for you either next year.

If you can, culture, and establish new spawn beds. It isn't difficult, and the rewards for careful and patient practise will be obvious. When you go out hunting...bring some plastic bags with you, and take away the rubbish from the woods that other people leave. Its fucking disgusting what people drop...one time recently, I took home a plastic laminated sign saying 'forrestry work in progress, keep away', that had simply been dumped afterwards and left to contaminate the land, filthy, vile plastic waste left behind by the very people who should know better. From a small clearing, 3-4 carrier bags of metal, plastic bags, fag packets, sweet wrappers, drink cans, bottles...fucking wankers. What you take away from nature with one hand, give back with the other, or we kill ourselves by shitting on our own doorstep and befouling the air we breathe, and soil we walk on.

Fair enough if you want to shit on your own doorstep...but do not do it on mine, and do not do it on other's either. So that means, be responsible and mindful of what we take from nature. This isn't attacking anyone here, but I see it everywhere I go when I am out in the woods or hiking, and it disgusts me. One person alione, like me, will have little impact, its a losing battle I know, but we all must do our part. Tell other people to do the same, maybe we will still have somewhere to live 200 years from now if enough people do.
 
got 60 lips last night, happy enough considering pre season and that but was looking for like 4 hours, pissing rain now so mi go out again tonight
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Fair enough if you want to shit on your own doorstep...but do not do it on mine, and do not do it on other's either. So that means, be responsible and mindful of what we take from nature. This isn't attacking anyone here, but I see it everywhere I go when I am out in the woods or hiking, and it disgusts me. One person alione, like me, will have little impact, its a losing battle I know, but we all must do our part. Tell other people to do the same, maybe we will still have somewhere to live 200 years from now if enough people do.
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Great post!

litter stands out like a sore thumb in the countryside and it's fucking sad to see when youre out walking. much the same as those fucking carrierbags full of dogshit hung on trees by a few annoying dog walkers. TAKE IT HOME WITH YOU YOU FILTHY CREATURE! What makes it so fucking precious you need to adorn trees with it for others future viewing displeasure?! Someone still has to get rid of it all after you've hung it up there [due to your own laziness or just because the bin was full] URGH

SamhainGrim said:
Depends a lot on the variety of shroom and its psilocin / psilocybin ratio as to whether there'll be a massive difference between wet and dry. Psilocin will degrade quickly during the drying process and psilocybin won't. That's what causes any subjective difference between the effects of wet and dry shrooms.

The reason Liberty Caps are a good mushroom for drying is they're much higher in psilocybin than psilocin, so very little potency is lost when you dry them. If the reverse were true then it'd mean... well, the reverse.
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This actually totally agrees with my experiences so far with wet & dry. so based on your info, I'm guessing that mexican cubensis have a much higher psilocin content than psilocybin [will look that up to confirm a bit later], because when i gave my last MC away to a friend, who's pretty experienced with using mushrooms, he said he got almost zero from something like 10g of dried [that I'd kept in an airtight, dry box for about 5 years]. Also, that was just chewed and no boiling or tampering with, so I can't think of any other variables which couldve affected their potency. Never had that problem with dried liberties

So, as my experiences with both types when taken wet have always been consistently that they're more visual, but particularly moreso from wet mexican cubensis, maybe the greater the psilocin, the better the visuals? Before any loss of potency from storage? Anyone have any thoughts about that, or experienced similar/opposite? Please feel free to give me the science and let me know if it's nonsense, bcos I'm going to be growing some of my own again soon and I'll factor all this in when I decide how I manage the growing/storing process

Week of warm weather forecast for Britain. Urgh. I groaned when I heard we were coming up to a week of indian summer. WANT MORE RAIN, dammit.
 
Got over 200 libs on the mountain on saturday in the space of 45mins!
My back & knees were in bits. Worth it tho! :)
 
Uggh...dog shit on trees. That fucks me off big time. I've never actually caught anyone doing it though. If I do....oh boy they are not going to like the result. Which pretty much equates to 'picked up on the end of staff, flicked in face, told to take the dog shit home, and the stuff in the plastic bag with you, fucker'

Maybe at 25, in my old age, I am getting a wee bit cantankerous....but leaving trash in the woods is one of my pet hates. Right up there with tapeworms, child molestation and tony blair in terms of acceptability. Got the better of me it did last time I was out....after being subjected to a torrent of vitriol from some golfer, after replying that I was only there to harvest some mushrooms for my tea, when asked if I was going one way or the other, having come from a few hundred meters to the side (out of the line of fire) to stand beside the guy. Told this bogtrotting twat that its fine, go ahead and take your shot, I'm happy to wait until your done.

Some people really need to be taken outside and battered to death with a pair of HIV-infested, beshitten undies full of rusty nails. Guy actually looked like he was about to try and crack me one. He got lucky really, I'd been on AMT that day, still tripping, and still loaded down. Although carrying a big sodding bit of wood. Couldn't even be bothered to waste the O2 to tell him how many different ways his mother could have had him aborted for the good of mankind :P Would have given him a good bloody hiding if he had started a fight, I have my limits, but christ...some people ARE dog shit.

I still picked up rubbish on the way home, I don't take the bags of dog shit with me, I draw the line at potentially covering my food with dog crap, likewise my clothes, backpack, etc. But the other stuff I bag up and remove, at least, as much as I can do, which is limited. Started flicking the bags of dog shit out into the path from where they had been tossed into the bushes with my staff, where they could not POSSIBLY be missed.

The idea being to send a message (and vent a little spleen, but hey, I'll keep doing it, hopefully the same people that leave it there will get tired of stepping in their mother's G.I tract leftovers),...take the bloody stuff home with you..or better yet, get a cat.

But...if everyone starts doing their part, and taking whatever rubbish they generate back with them to be got rid of where it should be...Won't be my kids, I'll never have any, but the next generation might just have something to go hunting in.
 
Limpet_Chicken said:
Uggh...dog shit on trees. That fucks me off big time. I've never actually caught anyone doing it though. If I do....oh boy they are not going to like the result. Which pretty much equates to 'picked up on the end of staff, flicked in face, told to take the dog shit home, and the stuff in the plastic bag with you, fucker'

Maybe at 25, in my old age, I am getting a wee bit cantankerous....but leaving trash in the woods is one of my pet hates. Right up there with tapeworms, child molestation and tony blair in terms of acceptability. Got the better of me it did last time I was out....after being subjected to a torrent of vitriol from some golfer, after replying that I was only there to harvest some mushrooms for my tea, when asked if I was going one way or the other, having come from a few hundred meters to the side (out of the line of fire) to stand beside the guy. Told this bogtrotting twat that its fine, go ahead and take your shot, I'm happy to wait until your done.

Some people really need to be taken outside and battered to death with a pair of HIV-infested, beshitten undies full of rusty nails. Guy actually looked like he was about to try and crack me one. He got lucky really, I'd been on AMT that day, still tripping, and still loaded down. Although carrying a big sodding bit of wood. Couldn't even be bothered to waste the O2 to tell him how many different ways his mother could have had him aborted for the good of mankind :P Would have given him a good bloody hiding if he had started a fight, I have my limits, but christ...some people ARE dog shit.

I still picked up rubbish on the way home, I don't take the bags of dog shit with me, I draw the line at potentially covering my food with dog crap, likewise my clothes, backpack, etc. But the other stuff I bag up and remove, at least, as much as I can do, which is limited. Started flicking the bags of dog shit out into the path from where they had been tossed into the bushes with my staff, where they could not POSSIBLY be missed.

The idea being to send a message (and vent a little spleen, but hey, I'll keep doing it, hopefully the same people that leave it there will get tired of stepping in their mother's G.I tract leftovers),...take the bloody stuff home with you..or better yet, get a cat.

But...if everyone starts doing their part, and taking whatever rubbish they generate back with them to be got rid of where it should be...Won't be my kids, I'll never have any, but the next generation might just have something to go hunting in.
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So, mushrooms!
 
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