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Mushroom research stopped

Ismene

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Can't remember who they were now but I remember when I mentioned research into psychedelic drugs was difficult because of the drugs illegality several people on the board insisted I was talking "rubbish" and that there was no problem whatsoever.

A trial that could lead to the use of magic mushroom treatments for depression has been stalled because of "absurd" regulations restricting the use of illegal drugs in research, it has been claimed.

Study leader Professor David Nutt, who was controversially sacked from his role as the Government's chief drug adviser in 2009, says "archaic" rules obstructing scientific progress should be abolished.

His team at Imperial College London has uncovered evidence that the hallucinogen psilocybin may combat severe depression which resists conventional treatment.

The problem is that psilocybin is the psychoactive ingredient in so-called "magic mushrooms" and is banned as a Class A drug.

Although the Medical Research Council has awarded a £550,000 grant for the trial, Professor Nutt said it has not yet been able to proceed.

Speaking ahead of the British Neuroscience Association's Festival of Neuroscience in London, he said: "We're not allowed to go and pick the mushrooms anymore and finding a company to provide this illegal drug in a way that can be prepared for trial use as yet has proved impossible.

Under the law, academic researchers are not allowed to manufacture their own Class A drugs and must obtain them from external sources.

Companies that could supply the drugs have to go through "regulatory hoops" to obtain the necessary Home Office licence, Professor Nutt said.

This can take up to a year and triple the cost, he maintained.

Other major hurdles were the EU guidelines on Good Manufacturing Practice, which sets daunting standards for potential suppliers, and rules on storage.

Only four hospitals in the UK currently have a licence to hold psilocybin, making it difficult to roll the drug out as a prospective treatment.

Professor Nutt added: "We are the first people ever to have done a psilocybin study in the UK, but we are still hunting for a company that can manufacture the drug to GMP standards for the clinical trial, even though we've been trying for a year to find one.

"We live in a world of insanity in terms of regulating drugs at present. The whole field is so bogged down by these intransigent regulations, so that even if you have a good idea, you may never get it into the clinic."


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/magic-mushroom-depression-trials-stalled-001517268.html#wVTNnnC
 
Oh dear, very dissapointing! Seems that the legal difficulties associated with researching illegal drugs remains as big a hurdle as ever.

Why is the system so shit-scared of Psilocybin anyway? It must be ignorance, coz Psilocybin is really not a very scarey drug, in my experience anyway...

edit :- I can't remember with whom you were discussing this previously either, Ismene.
 
I don't get it.. I've seen him inject psilocybin into a presenter and MDMA into a group of people.. Wha gwan?

Can't they just grow them (abroad, obviously) and send em over? If they're talking about finding a company to provide them.. why don't they do it themselves?
 
I suspect that, because the study is focused on PSILOCYBIN for use in medicine, the results would be complicated by the prescence of other active compounds in mushrooms, such as Baeocystin, common in many varieties especially UK varieties. So for the purposes of the study they need pure, lad synthed Psilocybin & although they obviously have permission to use this drug, no pharmacuetical company is licensed to produce it within the UK.

If Dr Nutt would like to drop me a PM I can let him know where he can get many other precursers to Psilocyn, if he'd like the research them instead. It's equally illegal of course! ;) I'm joking obviously!
 
Dunno ingwe - Nutt says he'd be glad to go out picking if he could without getting locked up.
 
Dunno ingwe - Nutt says he'd be glad to go out picking if he could without getting locked up.

Oh! Oh okay, fair enough! Why not use some other precursor to Psilocin then? I would've thought the pitch would be equally quered but I am no expert.

Does an NBOMe Psilocybin exist, yet? Might be handy to work with a legal substitute Mssr Nutt, no?
 
dr vollenweider's research group in zurich is still conducting research with psilocybin (and MDMA and ketamine) and will do so in the future. nutt should just ask them for sources.. ;)
 
dr vollenweider's research group in zurich is still conducting research with psilocybin (and MDMA and ketamine) and will do so in the future. nutt should just ask them for sources.. ;)

but source discussion isn't allowed here on bluelight ;)
 
Kafka eat your heart out..

I hope Johns Hopkins psilocybin studies remain unaffected!
 
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