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Multiple Drugs - Inexperienced - A Week of Haze

SpunkySkunk347

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This document is the recollection of what has happened to me in the past week. For certain reasons (legal and anonymity), do not take everything in this document as absolute fact, take it as a story. Actually, just say it is a story, it didn't actually happen. This is fiction.

I woke up this morning with one mother fucker of a headache. The room I was in reaked like hard liquor and vomit. Was this my room? Of course it must have been my room. But why did it appear so strange? So different? I could hardly recognize it.

This room which had been occupied by an obsessive compulsive person, which normally is kept somewhat clean and organized, has been degraded.... no excuse me, obliterated into this unspeakable mess. Trash is everywhere. Dozens of empty water bottles and booze bottles, dirty clothes, broken electronics, and other randomly assorted objects. Pills and powder are laying on some of my countertops which I have hardly any recollection as to what they are or how they got there. There was holes and stab marks in my walls and furniture. But most interestingly of all, are the notes. Random notes had been written on pieces of notebook paper and scattered across my room. Most of which seem like journal entries, as if in some hopeless attempt I was trying to settle my thoughts down by expressing myself on paper. The notes are hard to read, some of which are even complete gibberish.

I tried to recall what the hell had happened, and only strange nightmares came to mind. Could I have really have done all those horrible things? Were they just dreams of mine or did they actually happen? Could all that mania, despair, and insanity all have really taken place? I am still clueless.
And what about these needle marks on my arm? Or even worse, what about these large infected cut marks on my arm?

When trying to sort through my thoughts, I started back at when I had first gotten out of the mental ward last saturday night. My mother had picked me up, and we headed home. For a while we didn't say anything to each other. She had obviously found out about the history of all my drug abuse, and I pray to god she didn't find all the drugs stashed in my room. Finally we broke out into conversation about my drug use mainly, I tried to explain to her explicitly that my drug use was strictly spiritual and medicinal. I told her I was telling the truth. I hope I was telling the truth. There has to be atleast some truth to it.

When we got back to my home, she went to sleep and I immediately went to my stash of liquor. I began sobbing my eyes out. I was surging with manic energy, so I also took some of my klonopin they prescribed me at the mental ward.
After about an hour or so of laying on my bed sweating, I took another 2mg. Then a few minutes later, another 2mg. Then another. Another.
Then I got an idea. The idea that threw my life off course this past week.
"What if I just binged out?"
I already had plenty of pills to go on a binge. Of course there was the 60 or so klonopin the hospital had given me (but I really wanted to save these for panic attacks), a couple of vicodin left from when I had broken my leg, a few codeine and ativan I had stolen from my mom, several bottles of DXM, my prescription to ambien, and a few shitty Es left over from the summer of partying.

It wasn't enough. And at the state of mind I was in I thought it definitely wasn't enough.
I rounded up all the money I could, and called all of my connections. At this point it all started getting a tad bit hazy. I didn't have much money, so I just bought the cheap stuff.
I was never a big fan of pot, but I thought "what the fuck" and got a little bit of it. I got a few more vicodin. Now I had all the downers I would need, now it was time to get my ass psychadelic. None of my connections had any psychadelics (they never do), so that left me with going for the legal stuff.
I went out into town. Got several dozen packages of morning glory seeds, more DXM, salvia divinorum, and a small tank of nitrous along with a package of balloons.

Finally after all was said and done, I remember laying it all out in front of me and staring at it for a while. This was the biggest collection I had ever had. Think Fear & Loathing... I lighted up a joint, and began my binge.

After this point, I don't remember nearly anything. I think it was the ambien that took away my memory of all this. Or perhaps it was just too much for my body, mind, and spirit to handle so it blacked it all out. I honestly don't know.
I am surprised I am still alive. There was all those downers I had, and no uppers to counteract them. I wasn't thinking clearly. I had no judgement whatsoever, no concious to tell me to stop, and to pile onto it I was incredibely fucking manic.

Only several memories are still clear in my mind. The rest is just a haze, I can't tell if it was dream or reality.

One memory I have is going into a supermarket, I think I must have been on DXM at the time. I was shouting gibberish and then staff came up to me and asked me to leave the store. I calmly walked over to some sort of bottled liquid, picked it up, and smashed it on the floor. Then I got the fuck out of there because a fear came into my mind about police.

Another memory was driving around with my friend. We were downtown at night. I was drinking beers halfway, then rolling down the window, and throwing the half full (half empty?) beers at pedestrians. This could have been a dream or some sort of hallucination, because I don't believe there is any way this could have happened without us getting arrested.

One of the most horrid memories I have involves the only victim being myself. I know that this memory was real, because the scars are still here.
I went into my closet, and stared at my collection of fine knives, daggers, and razor sharp swords. I grabbed a katana and a hunting knive and began slicing myself. Mainly my legs (which are so sore right now I can barely fucking walk),
and my arms and chest.

Finally, the most vivid memory I have is last night. Last night I bought a jar of habanero peppers. I began eating them at an alarming rate. Keep in mind that I hadn't eaten anything for days. At the point that my mouth was unbareably hot, I got the great idea (sort of a fetish) of rubbing a habanero pepper on my penis. The worst idea I ever had.
I burned for hours. I think I must have gone into shock. Then I got a stomache ache so bad I began puking uncontrollably all over my room and bathroom, which didnt help because then all the hot peppers in my stomache came back up into my mouth and burned me for a second round.

Eventually I was reduced to just laying on my bed. I was crying. I was in so much pain. Not just because of the burning, or the cuts, but I think my organs simply hurt after all the stress from the drugs. Then for the first time in days I made a good decision. I decided to take a normal dose of my sleeping medication, and sleep it off. Ending the binge.

Today I woke up, called the doctor, told him about the mania I had been in, (not mentioning the drugs of course), then my mom talked to him and the doctor gave me a prescription to seroquel.
I had taken seroquel in the past, and hated it. It made me a zombie.
But maybe thats just what I needed at this point, was to be made into a zombie and settle my mind the fuck down.
Now my mind is coherent, and I am writing this report. Not just to teach others, but to help myself organize my thoughts.
I am never doing drugs again, and flushed my stash down the toilet.
I have said that I would quit before, and I hope this time I mean it.

This was to be my final hit. But let's be clear about this: there's final hits and final hits. What kind was this to be? Some final hits are actually terminal one way or another, while others are merely transit points as you travel from station to station on the junky journey through junky life.
- Trainspotting



Peace <3

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the best of luck to ya

butt....
uhhhhhhhhh... habanero peper dude? im sorry thats fuckin grose, and retarded haha, not jugding just saying, grose
 
not to be a dick but, it sounds like youve watched fear and loathing toooo much
 
havent seen the movie in a couple of months, i love Hunter S Thompsons books so much better even tho the movie is still amazing.
And yeah, everyone tells me I write like Hunter S THompson or that ive seen F&L too many times LoL

he is essentially my idol, not because of the drugs, but because of the way he writes. Ive read most of his books, and his writing style is infectious and as you can see i caught onto it

PS read some of my other trip reports, a couple people have said "the way you wrote it reminds me of fear and loathing"
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=274255
 
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Wow man, thats full on (I read 'both parts'- please, don't make it a trilogy ;)) sounds rough my man. You do realsie combing effexor and DXM is pretty dangerous? I understand you weren't thinking clearly (I have panic disorder too, albeit a tad less severe by the sounds of it) so I can empathise but please try to remember that.

Nice report (I think- though you'll need to rename it-yours truly, memberator for a post), be safe though- wait for your meds to work and then begin the process of realignment.
 
I know mixing SSRIs and DXM is a dangerous thing to do,
but a few weeks ago when I was on paxil i tested to see if it would cause serotonin syndrome by slowly dosing on DXM. 50mg one day, 100mg, the next, 200mg, then 300mg.
Never got the slightest hint of serotonin syndrome, doesnt mean it couldnt happen tho.

EDIT: i assume the risk of Serotonin Syndrome from SSRIs + DXM exsists on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th plateau doses (400+mg)
I never go above 300mg on DXM. It's my perfect dose. When i used to take it I always took 300mg doses. I didnt want to get more high, or be less high. I was just content.
 
Please do what you say and stay away from drugs and concentrate on getting better, your drug use is clearly abuse and not for medicinal purposes from the way you describe your use. Pretty excessive man, concentrate on getting your mind right, without the drugs- you dont seem to be in the grips of physical addiction so just get out!

this is nothing like fear and loathing, for one its real life, not the movies, and two the shit you did is just dumb.

name yer threads here correctly dagummit!

Good luck
 
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Beenhead said:
Please do what you say and stay away from drugs and concentrate on getting better, your drug use is clearly abuse and not for medicinal purposes from the way you describe your use. Pretty excessive man, concentrate on getting your mind right, without the drugs- you dont seem to be in the grips of physical addiction so just get out!

this is nothing like fear and loathing, for one its real life, not the movies, and two the shit you did is just dumb.

name yer threads here correctly dagummit!

Good luck

i laughed out loud when i read what you renamed my thread title
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btw, i truly must be inexperienced when i correct my physicians on the names of medications and the pharmacology of them
Im not some teen who wants to be cool by using drugs and "living the life", thanks for making that conclusion tho
 
All too familiar with substance-induced mania here, trashed rooms & all... in my case, recent event(s) occupied the last week of July '07 and all of August. I won't say 'consider yourself lucky', but I really would have been glad of just one week. Then again, I was hellishly aware rather than in a blackout state.
 
SpunkySkunk347 said:
i laughed out loud when i read what you renamed my thread title
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btw, i truly must be inexperienced when i correct my physicians on the names of medications and the pharmacology of them
Im not some teen who wants to be cool by using drugs and "living the life", thanks for making that conclusion tho


Ahh okay, but I figured u must be inexperienced with that combo, which is quite a number of drugs at once, if youve done that combo a few times then Id be more than happy to change it for you. I do believe your experienced with DXM, def more than me;) but the way you described your gathering of drugs, looked like it was your first attempt at that combo
 
I was thinking fear and loathing in las vegas too, wat a trip :O good this hasnt really happened for of yet :D
 
Beenhead said:
Ahh okay, but I figured u must be inexperienced with that combo, which is quite a number of drugs at once, if youve done that combo a few times then Id be more than happy to change it for you. I do believe your experienced with DXM, def more than me;) but the way you described your gathering of drugs, looked like it was your first attempt at that combo

I understand ;)
but then again, how can anyone truly be experienced with psychadelics when they can bring a different and more intense trip each and every time you do them
 
good point, but for me with LSD and 2CE the psychedelics Im most experienced with I get what Im looking for out of the experience because with true understanding of the drugs and their effects comes knowlege of how the correct dosage for what you want gives you what you want. But in oreder to get a more intense trip you must dose higher, and you should be able to guage the intensity of what to expect with that experience. In my opinion your experience in what you are doing is the most important factor in how to handle your usage, and can decide whether you experience bliss or hell

. I dont do many combos save for MDMA and LSD , also I have never done DXM, and it does not interest me, but Im sure its the same deal. With each time one doses, you should become more familiar with the space. As a side question, if you remember, its okay to say 'I dont know' How does Nitrous effect DXM? It turns a psycehdelic into a head spaced mind trip, immersed in a universe of color inside the head. Im pretty much unconcious during.
 
Beenhead said:
As a side question, if you remember, its okay to say 'I dont know' How does Nitrous effect DXM? It turns a psycehdelic into a head spaced mind trip, immersed in a universe of color inside the head. Im pretty much unconcious during.

im sorry, did you ask me a question, "how does nitrous effect DXM"?
well i have had that combination before.

I was coming down off of a 300mg dose of DXM when i looked in my friends fridge and found two whipped cream cans. I thought "what the hell" and huffed all the nitrous out of both cans. To my dissapointment, I didn't notice the effects of nitrous at all.

It seems like DXM almost covers up the effects of nitrous.
 
Well, please dont take me the wrong way, but I really hope you get some help, because this is not the life for anyone. If you can correct your doctor on the pharmacology of your medications, but you flunk Chemistry, there is something wrong there.

Gathering all your drugs together, and gazing at them for a while is telling me that you are doing the drugs because you feel they are glamorous. And the fact that you keep on saying how fear and loathing it is, and how you are like Thompson tells me that you are trying to live some life that is glamourous, but unneedingly dangerous.

When you find yourself, alone, fucked on OTC drugs, Cutting yourself with hunting knives, eating jars of Habernero Peppers, is saying you want some attention. The scaring of your body, your visual appearence is a cry for help.
GOing down the road throwing Beer cans at people is begging to get in trouble, were you disappointed to find those deeds went unnoticed to anyone of authority?

You can argue with me all you want but really your arguing with your self, your just lieing to yourself. Now if you are really going to quit drugs, then disreagard everything I say, but I have heard you say that before and I see your Avatar here days later. Im saying this because it is my responsibilty as a mod here to do so. I do care, and I hope you figure your self out, find out who you are. Believe me, who you are is not anything like HUnter S. Thompson. You dont even write like him, but you can write. Finish High School, go to college, and the REALLY learn some pharm, dont just Memoraize Erowid. If not Work on your writing in college, you seem to love it.

But dont lie to yourself, saying you are like Hunter S. Thompson, who made up a huge portion of that story, and left it for you to emulate. But dont listen to people like Winta who thought your story is great. Anyone who thinks your story is a great story about drugs fails to realize that UNLIKE Fear and Loathing, this is a story about a kid, and this F&L was embellished. Your words are the words of a child that needs help, and who really doesnt know who he is, not those of a Pulitzer Prize Winning Author. Listen to people like Me and Willow and get better.

And Im not on a high horse, Ive been in that mind frame and I realized I was being such a child, and that life has so much more than that, you too can realize it.

I dont want to see another report from you like this ever again. Maybe in a year write something on a trip that was truely meaningful, because from the posts of yours in the past says you have not had that.

Im not trying to Judge, be an asslhole, or anything like others tend to take me for. Ijust want you to be safe, to get an education, and if you choose to use drugs when your mind is right, to do it safely. If you need a freind to talk with, all of us here in Trip Reports would be glad to help. If you ever are ever thinking about a repeat of this story, Please PM me first.

Be safe!!!
 
you are looking at me as a teen drug abuser who is emulating Hunter S Thompson.
That is not me.
I was heavy into psychadelics before I ever even heard the name Hunter S Thompson.
For me, it all started with a simple prescription to Tylenol 3.
I fucking loved how those things made me feel. It's too bad I can't feel them anymore, my tolerance is too high.
Anyways, I knew after that first dose of codeine that I was headed down a dark road of despair. There would be fun times along that road, but it would not end well.
I knew this, and for still some reason I followed that road.
You know why?
Because I wanted change.
I didn't want to live a normal life.
I didn't want to be a part of society.

To this day I still have a dream of just being a drifter, and traveling places, doing nothing else, and contributing nothing to humanity except knowledge to others.
"There's still time to change the road you're on"
-Stairway to Heaven


After this week I have decided that what I really want is a normal life.
I took my taste of the drug life, and I spat out its bitterness.
I'm going back to the normal routine, or atleast I hope I can. I don't need someone over an internet forum to tell me to do that. It's common sense.

The thing about Hunter S Thompson's books is that many people think of them as stories that glorify drug use. When really, if you look at his experiences with drugs, only negative consequences came from them.
I still can't comprehend why people are inspired to do drugs after watching/reading Fear and Loathing even though the entire story is about how horrible of a nightmare drugs can be.
And I guess that's where I find us similar. I look like I'm glorifying drugs, but really the deeper message is in there.

PS I've tried getting "help".... ive been in the mental ward for 2 weeks as an inpatient for "help" and ive been in an outpatient program even longer. Not just for PD and OCD, but also drug use.
As you can see, the treatment isn't really hitting me too well.
Thats because Chemical Dependency treatment revolves around the formula "I started doing drugs because _____ was wrong in my life."
That formula does not apply to me. I chose to do drugs for a completely different reason.

PPS People just tell me I write like HST, I'm not trying to. Gonzo Journalism is infectious.
Let me brag for a second about my writing that in the state of minnesota when you are a sophomore, you have to take a Basic Standardised Writing test which you must pass to graduate. It's essentially a 3 page essay you write and they rank it 1 through 6..... 2 is passing, 1 is failing..... Only twelve people in the state of Minnesota got the highest score (the highest score being a 6), me being one of them.
I'm just saying that I am not an amateur at writing, my English teacher has even jokingly advised me to "quit high school right now, and start writing a book".

Btw, I am not failing chemistry because I don't know how to do it, I am failing chemistry because I have only attended it a collective 15 days and it has been 3 months since school started. Also, it being first hour doesn't help =\.
And around here, tons of college graduates have given me the advice "Dont take chem in high school, even if your considering a career in medicine, because your just going to have to take it over again once you get into college."
 
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SpunkySkunk347 said:
Btw, I am not failing chemistry because I don't know how to do it, I am failing chemistry because I have only attended it a collective 15 days and it has been 3 months since school started.


Thats what I meant, you probably know it, but for some reason your failing it, and THEREs the problem
 
I think Beenhead's just trying to offer you advice, Spunky. <3

As do I. Please do stick to your guns and quit using drugs. I know it's hard, it can be very hard. There is certainly not one set way to use drugs, and I'm not exactly a light drug user myself. But there is clearly a point at which drug use could no longer be said to be even reasonable safe or constructive, and I think the drug use detailed in this report is far across that line. And I think you agree. :)
 
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