Opioids MT-45 Positive Vs Negative effects

[Trippykitty]

Hello. This is a thread to help out or inform anyone whom might be interested in trying the mysterious Opioid RC, MT 45.
Feel free to add to this if you have any experiences yourself.

I figured I'd post this seeing as no one else has posted very much on the matter.

Drug: MT 45
ROA: IR (Plugging)
Dosage: Varied between 25 mg to 500 mg. (Keep in mind, there is no true recommended dose for this drug, only from what you read online)

Positive Effects

(Keep in mind that I am not a normal case when it comes to opiates. Opiates have served me well as an antidepressant for quite some time, as I don’t suffer the negative problems with laziness that others may. They have quite an opposite effect on me. While some narrow minded doctors may agree, I for one know my body well, I know what it is and isn't capable of. I also know when something is meant to be. While I understand that opiates are quite addicting, I for one don’t really care, because they have such positive life altering effects, such effects that I have never experienced from using any other type of prescription antidepressant. If I did not have opiates, I would be a depressed emotionless wreck, who could barely get out of bed and face the day. Opiates and opioids will be my best friend til the day I die. Which I assure you, is not anytime soon.)

1.Helps with insomnia at the right dosage.

2.Heightened mood.

3.Feelings of relaxation.

4.Having energy to go about the day

5.Due to ROA, low doses are needed, as compared to insufflation, and/or consuming, therefore price becomes a lot more reasonable. Found that I can purchase enough to last me a month or two for much less than I would spend on morphine or heroin.


Negative Effects

(I must note, that essentially all of these are caused by doing larger doses than necessary. Some of them much larger.)

1.Tinnitus. (Mostly just temporary, mild deafness/muffling of sounds, as well as some high pitched whining. Nothing too major)

2.Very minor loss of motor skills. Trouble walking a straight line. No falling over or anything horrible like that.

3.Blurry vision. If you get this, it's only because you took triple or quadruple what you should have taken. It goes away after a few days.

4.Can cause unwanted sleeping. Sometimes I wake up finding that I had fallen asleep with my computer on my lap, in a very uncomfortable position. As nice as it is to get sleep, it's awful finding out most of the sleep you ended up getting, caused your butt/legs to get really sore.

5.Strange smell in feces. With this one I'm not sure if this symptom is normal of the drug, or if it is due to my ROA.

6.I noticed with the first three symptoms, they were worst right after I woke up in the morning. I never got these symptoms after taking the drug during the day. So this leaves me wondering whether this is due to the drug 'creeping' up on the user, or if possibly something the brain does during sleep has something to do with it. Though I'm leaning towards it being the drug, simply because I may tend to take higher doses when I'm going to bed as I notice less euphoria during that time, and I tend to 'chase the dragon' every now and then.


Anyways, I hope this helps anyone who is looking for some info from someone who has some real life experience with this drug.

 

[CfZrx]

Thanks for the research trippy-k!

 

[wonderfulwizard]

Do you use gel caps to plug or what? I'm not positive of the best method without an oral syringe or something

 

[Erikmen]

Hello. This is a thread to help out or inform anyone whom might be interested in trying the mysterious Opioid RC, MT 45.
Feel free to add to this if you have any experiences yourself.

I figured I'd post this seeing as no one else has posted very much on the matter.

Anyways, I hope this helps anyone who is looking for some info from someone who has some real life experience with this drug.

Excellent, well done!

 

[pbuilder]

You say you use mt-45 because it is more cost efficient then morphine or heroin. However, I think your forgetting that morphine and heroin have a century of research and studies, so apart from addiction and od'ing, the medication doesn't have any serious long term side effects.

Where as you are literally being a human test subject with mt-45 because no one knows what kind Of side effects it may end up having long term. So is saving some money really worth risking your health? I'll tell u some things from the one time I tried mt-45.

A) it seems to have some nmda actions, giving it a colder feeling slightly trippy feeling which can really ruin or distract from the opiate high.

B) the only opiate that ever caused me to completely lose hearing in my left year while on it, which persisted for days after I stopped using it. No opiate has effected my hearing before.

C) why does this chemical literally cause excruciating chemical burn like pain for 20 minutes when even a small dose is snorted.

D) there was a dude on bluelight who said he almost died from withdrawals caused by a 200mg-1g a day habit that he quit cold turkey. If I remember right he had a grand mal seizure and ended up in the hospital for weeks. weeks later now he still feels awful and says the withdrawals were the worst he'd ever experienced from any opiate. He said he also felt like he damaged his brain and everyday was in a mental fog and he felt a lot stupider.

E) doesn't dissolve in water for whatever reason


There are more but I'll leave it at that. Mt-45 is an extremely bizarre and sketchy feeling opiate with no research or little research done, so for all you know you may end up with cancer or tumours all over ur body in a few years. There is a reason we test drugs on mice and rats first...

I'd stick with proven, real pharmaceutical opiates rather then save a few bucks and deal with the bizarre high mt-45 offers, not to mention putting ur health at risk.

 

[Trippykitty]

You say you use mt-45 because it is more cost efficient then morphine or heroin. However, I think your forgetting that morphine and heroin have a century of research and studies, so apart from addiction and od'ing, the medication doesn't have any serious long term side effects.

Where as you are literally being a human test subject with mt-45 because no one knows what kind Of side effects it may end up having long term. So is saving some money really worth risking your health? I'll tell u some things from the one time I tried mt-45.

A) it seems to have some nmda actions, giving it a colder feeling slightly trippy feeling which can really ruin or distract from the opiate high.

B) the only opiate that ever caused me to completely lose hearing in my left year while on it, which persisted for days after I stopped using it. No opiate has effected my hearing before.

C) why does this chemical literally cause excruciating chemical burn like pain for 20 minutes when even a small dose is snorted.

D) there was a dude on bluelight who said he almost died from withdrawals caused by a 200mg-1g a day habit that he quit cold turkey. If I remember right he had a grand mal seizure and ended up in the hospital for weeks. weeks later now he still feels awful and says the withdrawals were the worst he'd ever experienced from any opiate. He said he also felt like he damaged his brain and everyday was in a mental fog and he felt a lot stupider.

E) doesn't dissolve in water for whatever reason


There are more but I'll leave it at that. Mt-45 is an extremely bizarre and sketchy feeling opiate with no research or little research done, so for all you know you may end up with cancer or tumours all over ur body in a few years. There is a reason we test drugs on mice and rats first...

I'd stick with proven, real pharmaceutical opiates rather then save a few bucks and deal with the bizarre high mt-45 offers, not to mention putting ur health at risk.

Right, stick to proven opiates that cost enough to keep me broke for the rest of my life. Oh, and lets not forget, I don't even stand a chance of getting a proper prescription of this stuff. Any doctor out there calls me a junkie drug seeker, no matter how positive the benefits from opiates are for me. All doctors are just narrow minded followers of the media. They are brainwashed to believe that opiates only benefits are for breakthrough pain and nothing else. They could never understand that maybe, just maybe, they could substitute as a great antidepressant for certain people whom which normal antidepressants have no effect. So, truly in the end they are the reason I end up turning to this strange RC, because there's no other possible option out there for me.

Sure, I could, 'stick' to morphine, but at 10 dollars a 60 mg pill, yeah right. Like I could keep that up for any length of time. What a joke.

Society is doing this to me, peoples narrow mindedness is doing this to me. They justify killing someone based on absolutely nothing. Just assumptions and shallow misguided judgements.

 

[sekio]

Doesn't change the fact that you're choosing to use a compound with no or minimal use in humans and by doing so you're exposing yourself to new and unknown risks. If they are acceptable risks to you, then that's good. We just have your best interests at heart.

If you are buying the compound from "vendors" and eating it without further testing (e.g. independent GC, LC, NMR, running your own TLC plates at home, melting point tests, etc) then you're also asking for trouble. A certain amount of due diligence is needed when you play with fire.

Keep in mind that MT45 is really more of an academic tool compound than a drug. It was never developed as a drug for either animals or humans. And going by structure, it lacks a lot of "druglike" qualities such as easily metabolized groups or polar moieties that would aid metabolism and excretion. MT45 also has a fat solubility even higher than that of methadone. That means that at least on paper this compound will have a very long half life in the body, sort of like PCP. Redosing seems like it could get you into a coma pretty quick, or at least drive your opioid tolerance through the roof.

It makes me wonder how kicking a half-gram-a-dose MT45 habit is... also, is there some way we can get Mad Dog 20/20 involved, too? MT45 and MD20?

 

[Trippykitty]

Doesn't change the fact that you're choosing to use a compound with no or minimal use in humans and by doing so you're exposing yourself to new and unknown risks. If they are acceptable risks to you, then that's good. We just have your best interests at heart.

If you are buying the compound from "vendors" and eating it without further testing (e.g. independent GC, LC, NMR, running your own TLC plates at home, melting point tests, etc) then you're also asking for trouble. A certain amount of due diligence is needed when you play with fire.

Keep in mind that MT45 is really more of an academic tool compound than a drug. It was never developed as a drug for either animals or humans. And going by structure, it lacks a lot of "druglike" qualities such as easily metabolized groups or polar moieties that would aid metabolism and excretion. MT45 also has a fat solubility even higher than that of methadone. That means that at least on paper this compound will have a very long half life in the body, sort of like PCP. Redosing seems like it could get you into a coma pretty quick, or at least drive your opioid tolerance through the roof.

It makes me wonder how kicking a half-gram-a-dose MT45 habit is... also, is there some way we can get Mad Dog 20/20 involved, too? MT45 and MD20?

I understand. It's really tough though. You have to see it from my perspective. When I'm depressed, I am basically a lump. I have no initiative or drive or energy to do anything. I know I want to have a good life, but saying it is much easier than doing. Getting the energy to get up in the morning is a huge battle, let alone trying to make a future for myself. I love my parents, more than anything. But when I'm suffering from depression, I can never show them how much I care about them, because I am in constant emotional turmoil. So, rather than making a good relationship with them, I end up causing damage to it.

Once I discovered morphine, I found out that getting up in the morning wasn't such a chore. In fact, I quite enjoyed it. My relationship with my family improved. I could suddenly have conversations with my parents, eventually I was able to tell them I loved them. I could tell them how much I cared about them. It was the best feeling of my life. I wasn't searching for a high, I was searching for a way to be happy again. To function like a happy healthy human being. And I found it. Morphine was that miracle drug, it allowed me to see lfe through different eyes.

You can now imagine how important it is for me to find an opiate that can provide that feeling to me. But considering the obstacles, maybe you can understand why I choose to resort to this specific drug. Morphines street price is very expensive, way beyond something I can afford all the time. I would put myself in unbelievable debt. Also, the other obstacle is that no doctor anywhere will understand my problem. When I try to explain how it's changed my life they just say "well unfortunately, you can't medicate yourself that way". And that's it, that's what they leave me with. A straight up "no". They don't care how beneficial the drug is to my existence. They don't realize without it I just might end up offing myself one day. All they see is a junkie, who has no respect for his body or "the rules". The rules..... the rules are going to get me killed, yet these doctors, these humanitarians will sit by and watch me die, happy as can be that they followed "the rules". Their rules are beyond fucked up. Hell maybe a society that ignores the people who truly need help is not a society I want t live in.

Anyways, this is how I truly feel. So maybe now you can understand why I choose to resort to such a risky drug. Because I am left with no other viable options. I'm stuck, and no one gives a good god damn. My life means nothing to anyone.

 

[drunkendJesus]

Not trying to Dr. Phill ya or anything... But have ya tried suboxone or methadone? Both a little more wallet friendly for people who really benefit from opiates.

 

[Trippykitty]

Not trying to Dr. Phill ya or anything... But have ya tried suboxone or methadone? Both a little more wallet friendly for people who really benefit from opiates.

Hmm, no I haven't actually. Though I don't know where the hell I'd find that though. It'd take some doing.

 

[Zerwas]

Not trying to Dr. Phill ya or anything... But have ya tried suboxone or methadone? Both a little more wallet friendly for people who really benefit from opiates.

Buprenorphine maintenance would be advised to at least give it a try. I found it very pleasant and it helped me a lot even at small doses like 0,4-0,8mg ofBupe. The long half-life allows you to skip days in between the days of use and it can be tapered very well. Like down to 0,125mg...

 

[Trippykitty]

Buprenorphine maintenance would be advised to at least give it a try. I found it very pleasant and it helped me a lot even at small doses like 0,4-0,8mg ofBupe. The long half-life allows you to skip days in between the days of use and it can be tapered very well. Like down to 0,125mg...

Hmm, did you get it by prescription?

 

[Zerwas]

Yes, but only one prescription: 7x 0,4mg.
With that I tapered down to ~o,2mg. But my habit has never been particularly big. Like 1-1,5mg Buprenorphine a day. And before that mostly lower potent opioids like Tramadol, Tilidine, Codein, DHC etc. at relatively reasonable doses.

But it might work for you. Bupe is so damn potent and offers much more positive aspects compared to Methadone when considering a maintenance therapy.
Definitely better than being on a suspicious opioid RC

 

[f33lg00d]

Your bit about opiates being an antidepressant and you dont have negative side effects is cute

 

[f33lg00d]

Hmm, no I haven't actually. Though I don't know where the hell I'd find that though. It'd take some doing.

You goto a doctor say im an opiate addict and boom bupe script

 

[Lucy Bookit]

I'm going to try MT-45 soon. I'm going to use a very low dose.
Also, I'd recommend kratom, if you want a safer alternative for your depression--if you haven't tried it already. It works well for me both in mood and pain, as I have a rare form of chronic arthritis. I am on bupe currently for pain management (a butrans patch), and it doesn't give any euphoria or pleasure as typical opiates do, or pain for that matter.

 

[Drew.]

I dumped the rest of my stash. I got the IR to work ONCE. My eyes went all lighter coloured and I felt a distinct opiate but energy-ish buzz. I had got no results from oral or IR and I tried two times with both before this third try worked.
I have since tried again thinking if I shook and dissolved better I'd get the feelings back... No luck. This stuff made no sense to me - I would take up to 200mg IR over the course of an hour and the best I got was a ghostly white face with standard sized pupils. It only worked once for me and I tried using it at least 10 times with no luck...
I also felt like I immediately had to poop when trying this stuff. It was hard to stay laying down because of the urge to crap.
Disappointed and confused. Perhaps a shit batch. Who knows. It wasn't deemed butt-worthy this time. Didn't work for me.

I posted this earlier but I'd like to mention that I, too, am a past addict to morphine. And the reason I bought mt was to hopefully provide me with a less expensive, less lethal habit.
But it didn't work.

- immediate urge to relieve bowels after plugging. Makes it hard to stay down for half an hour... VERY uncomfortable.
- redosing did nothing for me other than "make my face whiter" , and although I swear I thought I felt an opiate rush when plugging, it never lasted. I threw the rest away because I'm chasing something I can't even get to.
That and Kratom is aces in my books. Much better for me (although everyone is different)

 

[Trippykitty]

I dumped the rest of my stash. I got the IR to work ONCE. My eyes went all lighter coloured and I felt a distinct opiate but energy-ish buzz. I had got no results from oral or IR and I tried two times with both before this third try worked.
I have since tried again thinking if I shook and dissolved better I'd get the feelings back... No luck. This stuff made no sense to me - I would take up to 200mg IR over the course of an hour and the best I got was a ghostly white face with standard sized pupils. It only worked once for me and I tried using it at least 10 times with no luck...
I also felt like I immediately had to poop when trying this stuff. It was hard to stay laying down because of the urge to crap.
Disappointed and confused. Perhaps a shit batch. Who knows. It wasn't deemed butt-worthy this time. Didn't work for me.

I posted this earlier but I'd like to mention that I, too, am a past addict to morphine. And the reason I bought mt was to hopefully provide me with a less expensive, less lethal habit.
But it didn't work.

- immediate urge to relieve bowels after plugging. Makes it hard to stay down for half an hour... VERY uncomfortable.
- redosing did nothing for me other than "make my face whiter" , and although I swear I thought I felt an opiate rush when plugging, it never lasted. I threw the rest away because I'm chasing something I can't even get to.
That and Kratom is aces in my books. Much better for me (although everyone is different)

Hey man, stay away from this stuff. Ive been taking it for a few months and my hair is falling out. This is definitely way more toxic than the better known opiates. MT45 = death. Stay away.

 

[Trippykitty]

I'm going to try MT-45 soon. I'm going to use a very low dose.
Also, I'd recommend kratom, if you want a safer alternative for your depression--if you haven't tried it already. It works well for me both in mood and pain, as I have a rare form of chronic arthritis. I am on bupe currently for pain management (a butrans patch), and it doesn't give any euphoria or pleasure as typical opiates do, or pain for that matter.

Hey man, stay away from this stuff. Ive been taking it for a few months and my hair is falling out. This is definitely way more toxic than the better known opiates. MT45 = death. Stay away.

 

[keeping]

Hey man, stay away from this stuff. Ive been taking it for a few months and my hair is falling out. This is definitely way more toxic than the better known opiates. MT45 = death. Stay away.

oh shit, that's awful.
what doses were you taking? and are you still using mt45?