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MPEA+selegiline
Jamshyd
Bluelight Crew
Toxide: Full-blown, out-of-control mania. Fun for 10 mins maybe, then it becomes plain scary.
Ebola: Glad it does (well, it does to me 
), although I feel we should wait for F&B's seal of approval 
uncomfortablepants
Bluelighter
I have tried PEA and seligiline and found it very hard to get consistent results.
what youve eaten recently seems to have a big effect.
I once repeated dosing to study and it worked fairly well, although I had meth lips by the end of the test.
Like Jamshyd said, it can also make for some intense short lived panic attacks.
uncomfortablepants said:
I have tried PEA and seligiline and found it very hard to get consistent results.
what youve eaten recently seems to have a big effect.
I once repeated dosing to study and it worked fairly well, although I had meth lips by the end of the test.
Like Jamshyd said, it can also make for some intense short lived panic attacks.
I agree with the inconsistent results. One day 800mg would be a decent high and then another day 3g would do nothing. I did find that when I kept the dose low when it worked it was fairly pleasant. Only when going a bit crazy with the stuff did I get this insane mania (one day I decided to go dig up some sassafras roots so I could get safrole and this was in the fall when they have no leaves and I had no idea what one even looked like in the first place) and then a follow up panic attack.
fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Jamshyd said:
Toxide: Full-blown, out-of-control mania. Fun for 10 mins maybe, then it becomes plain scary.
Ebola: Glad it does (well, it does to me ), although I feel we should wait for F&B's seal of approval
You'll wait a bloody long time! Taking compounds with known vasopressor activity with an MAOI seems foolhardy in the extreme. Although this is more likely with an MAO-A inhibitor, you have to remember that selegeline has activity as a competetive inhibitor of said enzyme as well as non-competetive MAO-B inhibition. MAO-B inhibition is more likely to lead to problems concerning hyperthermia IMO
wutz the difference between these, i wanna make sure i ordered the right product as i didn't know they had these other phenethylamine products until i google searched their database, they have a REALLY crapy product search engine on thier site....
n-methylphenethylamine AKA 1-Phenyl-2-methylaminoethane
b-methylphenethylamine AKA 1-Amino-2-phenylpropane
2-methylphenethylamine which as no other names
I got the N but I could exchange it for the B or 2
[COLOR="White"]n-mpea...
http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/small_images/AGROS12745.jpg
B-mpea
http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/small_images/AGROS17724.jpg
2-mpea
http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/small_images/AGROS35110.jpg[/COLOR]
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PEA and Selegiline. I find it hard to believe that you found it hard to "have consistent results."
You are either full of it or have never tried it. After a 10mg dose I would only take deprenyl once a month. I took pea for a good 6 months straight and got consistent results.
BTW i am now being treated for right bundle branch block, which may or may not be related to this stimulant abuse. Of course every junky believes he/she has conditions related to substances when in fact they are simply detoxing.... so fwiw I think your full of it.
It really fucked my sleep schedule over, which in turn fucked everything else up. I turned to opiates and benzo's to normalize my sleeping/thinking schedule from PEA.
What dose? you think you weigh it when you have kilograms?
The few people I talked to with PEA abuse in their background were just like me. tablespoons every 20 minutes did them fine.
classy? you are FULL of SHIT if you couldn't achieve results, it is addictive and you would certainly have increased the dosage like any good junky. the shit is dirt cheap.
consistent results. You take a spoon and place it in the bag. when you feel like redosing (which will be often) spoonfull or two is grabbed and dropped into a glass.
and no, i didn't die from this and neither did the others that I spoke from, but the same result: the amphetamine high gets shorter and shorter and the nasty down side (which I compare to cocaine blues) is longer and longer.
you did not experiment with this drug in ANY fashion if you did not up the dosage until you got amphetamine highs.
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to be exact, depending on how "high" i wanted to get - anywhere from 5-15 grams (1-3 tablespoons) at a time. This would be redosed immediately after the most pleasurable part of the high wore off (15-25 minutes) and it could be done 5-15 times in a night.
some times i'd be crawling on the floor high, other times I would run on the treadmill to give myself a reason for my heart to be thumping as hard as it would. It didn't take after starting PEA that I had no regard for my health or future, because at times after redosing again and again and again that a heart attack was closer and closer. yet I continued for MONTHS.
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fastandbulbous
Bluelight Crew
Look, don't make me have to edit your posts (or hand out yellow cards). Let it go... if the hissy-spitty fit isn't stopped here & now, it will end with slapped wrists all 'round.
The Voice of Reason has spoken! :D
Now kiss and make up...
fastandbulbous said:
Look, don't make me have to edit your posts (or hand out yellow cards). Let it go... if the hissy-spitty fit isn't stopped here & now, it will end with slapped wrists all 'round.
The Voice of Reason has spoken! :D
Now kiss and make up...
Sorry sorry, but the "consistent results" thing is the STUPIDEST thing I've heard. I can't get consistent results with marijuana. INHALE STUPID.
Thats a bad example. How about "vicodin does not make me feel high." as a comparison. TITRATE your dose then?! jesus.
You say sorry then continue with the insults, hence my action...
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ebola?
Bluelight Crew
There is a reason YMMV is in common parlance.
It does.
ebola
I apologize I took that a bit too personally.
AnewMan said:
I did up and up the dose many times until I reached what felt like an overdose and made me miserable. The thing is that some days I'd get just as high off of a gram as I did another day 4 grams and sometimes I couldn't get high off 4+grams but the very next day 1-2 grams worked just fine. That's what I call inconsistent.
I'm also curious what you put the PEA in when you took it. 2g dissolved in 16oz of water almost made me puke.
toxide said:
I can't read structures either but after comparing the ones you gave to methamphetamine the n-methylPEA looks the closest
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Hmm yes, I was outside of myself and did not even measure the acidity of the product I was ingesting. If I had a full stomache it would definately make it feel indigestive.
I don't know why I would "enjoy" such large doses but I believe it is in the sake of how I enjoyed methamphetamine. More was never enough.
Someone on another board pointed out that it must be a "low toxicity" chemical otherwise I would have died months ago. Either that, or the "natural" supplements that I was popping was holding off death.
(oh yeah, I have a "right bundle branch block" which after reading about is either a) natural before eating tons of PEA or b) caused by the drugs I took - I have a specialist meeting soon and will find out and post about it.)
... I always remember reading about dumbasses who would do X or Y and someone would say "well, at least you will be a warning for the next person." and here I am now. )
dbailey11
Bluelighter
toxide said:
What's the name of the product? Is it some kind of diet pill?
each chemical is a "product" -- a product of phenethylamine
there are 3 of them and could somebody please tell me the difference and which one is one closest to methamphetamine without the a-Methyl, i guess it would be the N-mpea and not the B-mpea but what about 2-mpea?
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uncomfortablepants
Bluelighter
AnewMan said:
Good luck with your heart problem.
As far as my inconsistent results go. I never took more than a gram at once and I would take it with varying doses of seligiline. What I had in my stomach and when and how i took the seligiline relative to the PEA had a huge impact on the results.
There were times when I took a gram and felt nothing and other times at the same dose when I was flying and redosed until I had a panick attack.