Temazepam is not short acting, it is intermediate acting benzo. I use temazepam in place of a longer acting hypnotic because it is long enough to keep me asleep through the night but not so long-acting that I wake up with a hangover (like with flurazepam or diazepam).
Diazepam is also, not a short acting benzodiazepine. It is very long acting and it's active metabolites have a half life of 200+ hours.
Also, no benzos produce true euphoria, as I mentioned earlier, the closest thing to pseudoeuphoria would come from flunitrazepam, temazepam for some people (not me), and lormetazepam.
All benzodiazepines are "rapid acting" and it's confusing to say rapid acting (onset) is something different from short acting (duration).
^ That sounds like anxiolysis to me, not euphoria.intense happiness and self-confidence
What is "true euphoria" and what is "psuedoeuphoria" and what exactly makes them at all different if they are both euphoria? {...} also, the FDA's evaluation of side effects, especially euphoria, isn't some sort of end all be all.. It's the FDA.
."it is like saying "I feel happy" or "I can almost feel good"
@kokaino...You're right, I should have said most benzos, not all. Although I highly doubt that oxazepam, clorazepate, chlordiazepoxide, prazepam, would EVER be used for a stimulant crash, but you are right, technically they are benzodiazepines, but I stand by my statements.
@golden1, if you are saying you experience true euphoria from benzodiazepines, I'm not saying you don't feel what you feel. But I am willing to bet in your shoes, I would not call it euphoria. I never said "Benzodiazepines are not capable of causing euphoria and anyone who claims they do is lying". I am saying that by my definition of euphoria, benzos produce that feeling. This is my personal experience I am sharing, so when you say "they don't produce euphoria for YOU", I realize that.
In my experience, benzodiazepines can't create genuine euphoria, and suspect many confuse anxiolysis with euphoria.
^ That sounds like anxiolysis to me, not euphoria.
Intense confidence and happiness is not anxiolysis, it is euphoria. The definition of "euphoria" is an intense sense of well-being. This translates into happiness, confidence (which is an elated sense of being), sociability, and feelings of connection to others. Anxiolysis is inhibition (you're confusing "inhibition" with "confidence", which are totally different).
I believe any drug that produces euphoria also lowers inhibition.
Also, euphoria is a side effect. All side effects are dose dependent and user dependent.
The reason one may believe euphoria is not a side effect of benzodiazepine use is because benzos do not have a very direct effect on dopamine. They do reduce glutamate, which effects dopamine. Depending on the user, this can be a positive experience or a dull one.
Arguing with words like "happiness" "confidence" are subjective to the user.
Indeed.
I was only trying to share my own experiences on the subject, obviously no shitty benzodiazepine can produce euphoria for me since I'm used to the rush of oxymorphone and hydromorphone, etc.
But if you haven't experienced that kind of euphoria, then maybe your definitions for euphoria are of a slightly lower standard, understandably so.
Indeed.
I was only trying to share my own experiences on the subject, obviously no shitty benzodiazepine can produce euphoria for me since I'm used to the rush of oxymorphone and hydromorphone, etc.
But if you haven't experienced that kind of euphoria, then maybe your definitions for euphoria are of a slightly lower standard, understandably so.
then I ask what the difference is and I get this,"Also, no benzos produce true euphoria, as I mentioned earlier, the closest thing to pseudoeuphoria would come from flunitrazepam, temazepam for some people (not me ), and lormetazepam."
"I never said "Benzodiazepines are not capable of causing euphoria and anyone who claims they do is lying"."
So, my takeaway is that you said "no benzos produce true euphoria" because they produce less euphoria than other drugs.But if you haven't experienced that kind of euphoria, then maybe your definitions for euphoria are of a slightly lower standard, understandably so.
What makes some effects of chemicals side effects? as opposed to a normal effects?Also, euphoria is a side effect. All side effects are dose dependent and user dependent.
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Arguing with words like "happiness" "confidence" are subjective to the user.
"Also, no benzos produce true euphoria, as I mentioned earlier, the closest thing to pseudoeuphoria would come from flunitrazepam, temazepam for some people (not me ), and lormetazepam."
What I meant was exactly what I said:
If you get euphoria off benzodiazepines, that's great for you, I never said you aren't feeling what you're feeling.
I stated my subjective opinion, and y'all didn't like it. That's fine with me, life goes on. I was not trying to say that benzodiazepines can't produce true euphoria because other drugs do, and do it better. My subjective opinion: I believe that the best a benzodiazepine can produce, is "pseudoeuphoria". There is no set definition of euphoria, as it is a purely subjective experience. I hope we can at least agree on that.
Temazepam is not short acting, it is intermediate acting benzo. I use temazepam in place of a longer acting hypnotic because it is long enough to keep me asleep through the night but not so long-acting that I wake up with a hangover (like with flurazepam or diazepam).
Diazepam is also, not a short acting benzodiazepine. It is very long acting and it's active metabolites have a half life of 200+ hours.
Also, no benzos produce true euphoria, as I mentioned earlier, the closest thing to pseudoeuphoria would come from flunitrazepam, temazepam for some people (not me ), and lormetazepam.
Oh fuck this ibuprofen just took away my headache, this shit is so euphoric!