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Most Drug Dealers Don't Make Shit

A flatmate I once had used buy a 9-bar of hash for €300 every Monday and sell half an ounce for €45 or an ounce for €75.

He was making a minimum profit of €500/600 per week after he had smoked himself (and me!) silly from his own supply. And he had a closed customer base of about 15 regulars with no hassle whatsoever.
 
I also read about this in Freakonomics by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner! Its quite interesting given the perception of drug dealers in popular culture as having a high amount of disposable income.
 
the one guy i used to cop from who just hustled D full time wasnt baller or anything but he made some $$...at least enough to live on and have some left to put rims on the caddy. he wasnt crazy heavy or anything either, he'd get like 50g's a week and do g's and 20's.

most kids on the stree tho that work in a crew dont make shit. unless they run the spot 24/7 they prolly dont make more than 100 a day. of course it all depends on your connec and how good the product is. im sure the majority of street level dealers dont ball the way they are made out to be.

also it seems like the higher you get the more $ you can launder and invest into legit business. thats where you start to make real bank. buy shit like laundromats car washes, strip clubs. anything with lots of loose bills coming in.
 
I think you can do extremely fucking well for yourself out of coke (at UK prices anyway) or weed - but ONLY if you don't touch the stuff yourself. If you do, you never make a profit, you just do a LOT of free drugs..
 
I could have made hundreds and thousands of euro's selling dope if i wasn't using at the time.

Selling drugs can be a very lucrative business if you are not an addict yourself.

I've known plenty of people who got set for life, needless to say none of them used the drugs they sold.

The people making the mint off drugs are obviously not drug abusers themselves.
 
All of the reliable dealers I've known have been fairly well-off, drove nice cars, etc. It's the dumbass ghetto types who work for $3.30/hr :P
 
It's a baby! said:
All of the reliable dealers I've known have been fairly well-off, drove nice cars, etc. It's the dumbass ghetto types who work for $3.30/hr :P

The ghetto type that I deal with works at a factory during the night and slangs during the daytime, he's got a kid tho. To me most successful dealers are bound to get jacked.
 
lmno said:
I hear about this from time to time about most drug dealers not making much. What do you guys think? Would you say that the majority of drug dealers don't make shit?

Discuss.

Some of this is common sense. If drug dealers didn’t make reasonable or desired compensation then they wouldn’t continue doing it. Still, the “majority” of dug dealers that don’t make anything are your bottom feeders who choose to sell just enough to support their own drug use, and that’s all they are interested in. Therefore based on their particular goals, they are successful in that much.

Anyone who enters into the business for the purpose of making a profit, and has the customer base, the supply chain or vendors, and the resources in which to operate will/can be successful. However, it is just like most other businesses… if you don’t know how to run it, you aren’t going to last long. Are “most” businesses in general successful or do “most” fail, or “not make vary much”?


TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Also, it requires an inordinate amount of work and devotion to be a drug dealer; because you don't show up at an office or have a boss per say, many people think that they are making more money on average than they really are, not taking into account how many hours they are logging. It's a full time job and requires you to be working much longer than any 9-5.

So yes, I'd agree. Drug dealing is extremely non-profitable, and the only people making money are the top dogs who are in charge of large-scale shipping operations over borders, or oversee the synthesis of raw products. Everyone else is simply a slave.

I have to agree with Roger, you obviously don’t know anything about dealing. That’s not a bad thing really, I just wonder why you would talk and use wording as if you do.

Extremely non-profitable? Inordinate amount of work and devotion? A full time job?

Each of those is blatantly false. Most dealers who chose to sell for profit, even set working hours… often part time in addition to their legit full time jobs. Even with those hours a dealer can make a substantial profit per week. It can require a decent amount of devotion at times to remain successful but it isn’t in excesses of the effort one must place in any self employed operation, and often requires less. Such devotion, and some overhead, usually goes to guard against the know risks from law enforcement.

TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Think of it this way: If drug dealers had to pay $100 a month for their activities to stay safe, than alot less people would deal drugs because it would be too costly.

$100 a month is too much overhead for a drug dealer? If that was the case there would be a lot more dealers. The only deterrent for dealing is the same thing that makes it so profitable… government law.

pkt said:
I could have made hundreds and thousands of euro's selling dope if i wasn't using at the time.

Selling drugs can be a very lucrative business if you are not an addict yourself.

I've known plenty of people who got set for life, needless to say none of them used the drugs they sold.

The people making the mint off drugs are obviously not drug abusers themselves.

It depends on your usage, and how much you are selling at a time. Obviously what you use is taking out of your profit, but often dealers get around the issue you experienced by procuring product for resale, and purchase personal use amounts separately. You just avoid dipping your hand into the business cookie jar. Often the dealers personal stash is much better quality than what they sell, but personally all my stuff was kept the same good quality through purification even if I had to lose a little weight after buying from the supplier. Quality kept me a good customer base, rather than being concerned about quantity.

rat tat tat tat said:
The ghetto type that I deal with works at a factory during the night and slangs during the daytime, he's got a kid tho. To me most successful dealers are bound to get jacked.
pkt said:
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Getting jacked is inevitable unless you got a whole crew to back you up.

Not true, and making those type of assumptions can get people in trouble. Again, like it is for most businesses, and because there IS excellent profitability potential, a serious dealer will have alarm systems, surveillance, and most likely be well armed. A mob crew can be hired is necessary to resolve disputes, but any fool thinking of jacking a dealer better be smart and well prepared.

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Tytan said:
Not true, and making those type of assumptions can get people in trouble. Again, like it is for most businesses, and because there IS excellent profitability potential, a serious dealer will have alarm systems, surveillance, and most likely be well armed. A mob crew can be hired is necessary to resolve disputes, but any fool thinking of jacking a dealer better be smart and well prepared.

Most dealers I know don't carry bangers since the charges are well increased as result of them, so simply checking out the product and making off in a dead sprint will do. Mind you, there are times when I've seen jackings MUCH, MUCH more brutal than that. I'm talking being in the dudes house and one guy unplugs all his phones from the wall and gets his cell phone too, another two are beating the shit out of him and holding him down, and another is collecting all the product not to mention anything else they want in his crib. Oh, and I've seen some pretty clever jackings too, ala counterfeit hundos.

With slanging bud you got to be on top of your game, don't smoke out of the business bag, and never front cause you'll end up waiting on a bunch of dumb fuckers for your reup money. And shit, it doesn't hurt to throw in a fat nugget of mids in the middle of an oz of dro that your slanging too.
 
Some editing and some posts deleted. For any of you guys who may be in the business of selling illegal substances, you may want to consider not advertising the fact on a public message board.
 
rat tat tat tat said:
Most dealers I know don't carry bangers since the charges are well increased as result of them,

Hmm, most dealers I know do. I’m sure it’s not universal that every dealer carry, but I doubt the reasoning behind not doing so is from a fear of getting a “higher” charge. Otherwise the fear of a charge for selling illicit substances would deter them from that practice. Could be wrong, it just doesn’t sound logical to me.

rat tat tat tat said:
so simply checking out the product and making off in a dead sprint will do. Mind you, there are times when I've seen jackings MUCH, MUCH more brutal than that. I'm talking being in the dudes house and one guy unplugs all his phones from the wall and gets his cell phone too, another two are beating the shit out of him and holding him down, and another is collecting all the product not to mention anything else they want in his crib. Oh, and I've seen some pretty clever jackings too, ala counterfeit hundos.

No doubt. Dealers can face the same dangers of getting jacked in this way as many “business owners”, but it doesn’t follow that a successful dealer is “bound” to get jacked. A successful dealer is one who would be on top of their game.
 
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lmno said:
http://www.youthcomm.org/FCYU-Features/MarchApril2006/FCYU-2006-03-16.htm

"If you look at 100 drug dealers, 99 will make less than minimum wage. One will make a lot of money. That's the reality on the streets," Venkatesh told me. "It's an illusion that people have that they're going to make a lot of money. That's only the leaders driving a fancy car."


I hear about this from time to time about most drug dealers not making much. What do you guys think? Would you say that the majority of drug dealers don't make shit?

Discuss.

I know people who have made tens of thousands of dollars from hustling narcotics...Of course, the most affluent ones I've come across have been the individuals that don't actually do the drugs themselves, or understand moderation.

It all comes down to the individual themselves....some people are just good at investing and saving money...

I don't know who you know, but how can you even question or ponder the existance of MOST drug dealers not making as much money as a minimum wage job???

Drug trafficking is a multi-billion dollar business and it is the most profitable in our country...I can't cite this fact but I know it is the truth...

I'm sure that most of the people on this forum are thinking about the 19 year old kid who scoops up quarter zips of blow and QP's of pot and sells $20 bags and eighths all day long while indulging in his stash after "breaking even." But there are MANY people who make millions of dollars off primarily selling drugs...
 
It's a multibillion- dollar business, but so is McDonald's. Behind drug dealers are drug overdoses and drug murders and drug charges, being followed by drug or homicide police, who have to be dealt with with expensive lawyers, not to mention constant paranoia, having to launder money, changing communications and locations on a regular basis...
 
in the end you will always lose selling drugs. whether it be getting stolen from, ripped off, violence, and going to prison.i have had alot of friends and friends of friends go to jail and prison for dealing drugs, in fact it seems like over half of the dealers i have known has gotten in trouble with the law at one point of time. and getting busted doesnt only suck because of jail time, the court costs, lawyer fees, and they will take all of your money if they suspect it has anything to do with your drugs, they will seize all of your shit, ect. you will be back to square one. and usually if the drug dealer does the drug he sells himself too, he will start dipping into his shit a bit too much and get out of control- or lose all his profit margin. i've seen that happen too.
 
phrozen said:
Damn straight. You the man in the hood if your Caddy's got rims.



lmao, i suspect most people posting here dont have the foundation of a true buisness sense. its a damn busiess, either you win or lose or stay lucky.

buying rims is absurd for a dealer of illegal drugs period
 
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