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Heroin Morphine - heroin - hydromorphone equilancies when snorted
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Since heroin purity varies a lot, it is hard to tell. Due to that fact, the best advice we can give is to start low and work your way up. I don't want to throw out a mg number for morphine that I feel is equivalent to 1/3 gram of heroin by me, which may turn out to be dangerously strong for you since they heroin I get may be stronger than the heroin you get.
The oral bioavailability of morphine is actually higher than that of its intranasal BA, so you are better off eating the morphine. I don't find morphine that euphoric, and I would say that you would need easily over 300mgs of morphine taken orally to feel anything close to the equivalent of 1/3 gram of heroin. Again, play it safe and start out with around 250 mgs orally. You may find morphine to be a lot more euphoric than I do, and/or your heroin may not be as strong as the heroin that I get, so it is hard to say.
If you happen to know the dose of oxycodone that you need to feel about the same effects as 1/3 gram of heroin, then it would be easier to convert that dose to an equivalent morphine and hydromorphone dose.
I don't have experience with hydromorphone, so I cannot comment on that.
The oral bioavailability of morphine is actually higher than that of its intranasal BA, so you are better off eating the morphine. I don't find morphine that euphoric, and I would say that you would need easily over 300mgs of morphine taken orally to feel anything close to the equivalent of 1/3 gram of heroin. Again, play it safe and start out with around 250 mgs orally. You may find morphine to be a lot more euphoric than I do, and/or your heroin may not be as strong as the heroin that I get, so it is hard to say.
If you happen to know the dose of oxycodone that you need to feel about the same effects as 1/3 gram of heroin, then it would be easier to convert that dose to an equivalent morphine and hydromorphone dose.
I don't have experience with hydromorphone, so I cannot comment on that.
Well I made tea with 6 large pods and I am fairly high right now. Not near nodding or anything but I have decent buzz. This is actually my first time doing pods and I have to say this high is different compared to the heroin high. I would say it feels more mellow.
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hydromorphone is quite strong, but I've never done heroin so I can't really compare. I would compare around 20 mg of hydromorphone to 80 mg of oxy, but that doesn't really help you since you don't do oxy.
Wow Pod tea is amazing. I think I might like it even more than heroin, were I to take a proper dose. The problem with heroin is that that the high is so fleeting. This tea seems much better in terms of duration. I have had a stable opiate buzz now for several hours since drinking the tea.
The high from poppy tea lasts all day for me. It is most closely compared to morphine since that is the main opiate that you are getting out of the pods. Seeing that you enjoy the tea, you should take a lower dose of morphine than I mentioned before, because that dose is more for people that don't particularly like the morphine high. A dose of somewhere between 100-200mgs would be a good place to start.
These equivalent doses between heroin, oxy, morphine, and hydromorphone are all just estimates though, so don't just go and eat the doses that I think would be closest to 1/3g of heroin. It's just a guide as to how much of these other drugs you may be expecting to have to take to achieve the desired affects, but you should always start low and work your way up. As I have said, purity ranges a lot, and the H you were getting may have been pretty weak, especially considering that 6 poppy pods has you high. Speaking of which, poppy tea and morphine both usually take a good hour or so to peak, so don't go taking more until you have waited like 1.5 hours and have gauged it's effects on you.
By me, .1 of heroin is like 60-80mgs of oxy. It usually never feels like less than 60mgs of oxy, and stronger batches could feel like 100mgs of oxy. These are my estimates from sniffing btw. So let's say that the OPs dope was like 60mgs of oxy per .1 which would make 1/3 of a gram about equal to 200mgs of oxy, which by your estimates would make that about the same as 50mgs of hydromorphone. Also, this is assuming that you are sniffing the hydromorphone. The BA varies a lot depending on the ROA, so this is very important to take into account when determining equivalent doses. The BA of Hydromorphone and morphine vary a lot compared to say, oxycodone which has a high oral BA with nasal not too far behind, and IV of course being 100. The BA of oral morphine is ~25% and the nasal BA is lower, and the nasal BA of hydromorphone is ~55% while its oral is ~33%.
These equivalent doses between heroin, oxy, morphine, and hydromorphone are all just estimates though, so don't just go and eat the doses that I think would be closest to 1/3g of heroin. It's just a guide as to how much of these other drugs you may be expecting to have to take to achieve the desired affects, but you should always start low and work your way up. As I have said, purity ranges a lot, and the H you were getting may have been pretty weak, especially considering that 6 poppy pods has you high. Speaking of which, poppy tea and morphine both usually take a good hour or so to peak, so don't go taking more until you have waited like 1.5 hours and have gauged it's effects on you.
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