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MORPHINE 15mg CR

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dannyboy88

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So I am used to doing 60-120mg of perc A 215's and now have been offered the morphine 15mg CR pills. Never done them. Just wondering how they compare, how much ill need to get high and the best way to do them.

I think they are navy blue with 15 on one side and ABG on the other.

Again, I am used to doing 60-120mg of perc A 215s per day.

Thanks for the advice and happy highs!
 
just google 'narcotic converter' and you'll be able to convert between narcotics!

Generally, if both are consumed orally, oxycodone is considered 1.5x as potent as morphine, some claim as high as 2x.
 
Cane2theLeft said:
just google 'narcotic converter' and you'll be able to convert between narcotics!

Generally, if both are consumed orally, oxycodone is considered 1.5x as potent as morphine, some claim as high as 2x.
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This is the one of the biggest pet peeves of mine, lol.

It is NOT MORE POTENT than morphine, it is MORE ORALLY ACTIVE. There is a big difference. Drug for drug, in a ROA where both have a BA of 100% (IV), morphine is 2x more potent than oxycodone is. So as drugs morphine is the more potent one, but because of it's extremely low oral BA, it's oral activity sucks and requires higher than normal doses. Oxycodone therefore is more orally active than morphine, but not more potent. This is more a metabolism issue, not a potency issue.

Oxycodone's oral BA is listed as 87%, but morphine's ranges from 10-30%. So a person with pain getting 10 mg of oxycodone will be getting 8.7 mg of the dose, while the person getting 10 mg of morphine will only be getting at the most 3 mg of the dose (which is not an active analgesic dose). Oxycodone is more orally active, but it's not a more potent drug than morphine.

Here's another example for you: 5 mg of oxycodone orally will be a better pain reliever and more recreational than 5 mg of hydromorphone orally. Does that mean oxycodone is more potent than hydromorphone?
 
^We're not talking about BA, we're talking about equianalgesia/equipotency (aka EFFECTS) and orally, as I made clear, oxycodone's effects are 1.5-2x as potent as morphine's.

If we're talking about IV, I've had said morphine's effects are more potent but (AFAIK) we were not.
 
^ What C2theL said.

Also OP, make sure you break the controlled release otherwise it won't be so great.

And don't forget that plugging is a much better route then oral administration, at least in my experience. :)
 
^thanks, blondie... I meant to throw in that part above. The oxycodone will be ~1.5x as strong as morphine assuming both are IR as well as taken orally.
 
I think kokaino was expecting a bit more in-depth discussion of it, but this is BDD and I think that since most people on here are just starting to be educated on drugs, they can't have too much information shoved at them at once. :)
 
Cane2theLeft said:
^We're not talking about BA, we're talking about equianalgesia/equipotency (aka EFFECTS) and orally, as I made clear, oxycodone's effects are 1.5-2x as potent as morphine's.

If we're talking about IV, I've had said morphine's effects are more potent but (AFAIK) we were not.
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Yeah, you are right oxycodone's effects are 1.5-2x stronger orally than morphines. I just was saying that it's only because it is more orally active, not because it was a more potent drug, which you seem to agree with.
 
^Absolutely... in the future please PM next time though :) This thread has run its course though so no need to bring it back.
 
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