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Morning Glory Seeds - First time - From checkout line to a hell of a time!

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I wanted my first time with morning glory seeds to be in the daytime, but since I work six days a week, I decided to go ahead and try them the first chance I had.

4:00pm- I crushed 400 seeds in a coffee grinder after washing and drying them. I repeated this for my ex-gf.

5:30pm- We both eat the powder with peach ice cream. She mixed it in and I ate a spoonful with each bite of ice cream. The taste wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Very similar to mushrooms, IMO.

6:00pm- Begin to feel a change. Similar to the beginning of a roll. It fades away. I pop in the movie Sunshine while I wait.

7:00pm- Still no trip as of yet. Nausea has set in for both me and my ex. She has given up on us tripping. I tell her that I didn't care. A realization has come to me. We spend so much time wanting to trip. To try and distance ourselves from reality and connect with that unseen world around us. It's always there and will always be. Patiently waiting. As should we. I was perfectly OK either way.

8:00pm- My ex comes into the room from putting on her make-up. "Get up and walk around!" ,she tells me. "It makes a huge difference!" That and the pot she smoked made a difference, I'm sure. I'm on probation so I wasn't able to smoke with her. Her pupils are big, beautiful shining orbs.

8:20pm- She is still in the back bedroom putting on her make-up. A joker grin has found its way onto my face and grows bigger every time I feel her getting closer to coming in the room. She finally comes in and asks me if her make-up looks OK. She says her hands are shaking so bad that she's having a hell of a time putting it on. I tell her she looks fine. Even though watching tv is about one of the most boring things you can do, it seems pretty interesting at the moment. The light all around the tv is shining to the point where it is spilling out and there are colorful swirls zooming around in the background,

8:40pm- Her friend, Tracy, shows up. They had made plans to go out to the club earlier. They want me to go, to which I politely replied, "Fuck no!" Tracy asked what was up with us. We were both grinning from ear to ear. I tell her about the seeds and realize how silly it all must seem to someone who doesn't do ANYTHING but drink, like Tracy.

9:15pm- They both leave and I'm finally alone. Immediately, every ounce of energy leaves my body and I become a silly, melting mess on the couch. Closed eye visuals are definitely on the agenda. I bounce back and forth from this stage to nausea for the next hour or so.

10:30pm- I finally know I'm about to puke. I go to the toilet and dry heave a couple of times, followed by a small vomiting spree. More dry heaves and vomiting follow. After vomiting the second time, I feel like a lightswitch has been clicked on in my head. I feel so much better and different. Still tripping, just not nearly as out of control as before. And no nausea!

11:15pm- I came back to my place and got on the computer. It was kind of hard to type, with the letters moving around. I called my ex to check up on her. She's a giggling mess. Turns out *gasp! I was right. Going to the bar while tripping wasn't such a good idea after all. Who woulda thunk it? She spent the night trying to mask her trip. That's never a good thing.

12:15pm- She finally made it home. Still goofy, still tripping, still my ex. But, I love her and glad she's back. A mutual friend brought her home since Tracy was now drunk beyond all repair. No worries. She had a ride home, too. Anyways, this mutual friend is an avid lover of psychedelics. When we explained to him about Morning Glory Seeds, he quickly left to Wal-Mart and I haven't seen him since.

12:30pm- We enjoy the next hour or so talking and just having fun. Later on, we eat some Waffle House and drift blissfully off to sleep.


The next time, I'm going to try at least 650 seeds. Also, I'm going to make sure I start early in the moring and I'm going to our local park. It's a great park with a lot of trails. All and all, my visuals weren't that strong, but my environment was an apartment after all. The experience was great and the insight was much needed. Thanks, LSA!

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for a more powerful illusion, cut out the conception, more is less. the chemical is key. Now, is 100 keys better than 1? and what use is the key, if the lock has not been prepared? :)
 
Excellent report!

I've always been leary of MG seeds due to the nausea (even though I have an iron stomach).......

Did you just wash the seeds with tap water?

Maybe I'll give this a go sometime soon.........
 
Nice report, thanks for sharing! LSA-containing plants reallt are fantastic, a hidden gem. The nausea and bodyload can be quite bad but it passes and the trip is wonderful.

And no, don't wash them with tap water... use distilled water, as chlorine in tap water can destroy the LSAs.
 
CloudyHazeD said:
Excellent report!

I've always been leary of MG seeds due to the nausea (even though I have an iron stomach).......

Did you just wash the seeds with tap water?

Maybe I'll give this a go sometime soon.........
Actually, I did rinse my ex gf's in tap water. I'd recommend distilled water though. I just didn't have any at the time. I didn't rinse mine off at all though. We both took 3 Pepto tablets about 10 minutes before eating the tablets and I think that helped the nausea.

As a wise bluelighter told me a couple of weeks ago, if you do puke, just think of it as your body's way of purging itself of all of the negative within you. As I said in my report, when I did puke the transformation was immediately felt. It was much needed and made the trip 100% better.

justanotherperson......I've read your post several times and have no idea what you are talking about. Are you OK? Are you in the process of experiencing your own trip report?
 
HisNameIsFrank said:
justanotherperson......I've read your post several times and have no idea what you are talking about. Are you OK? Are you in the process of experiencing your own trip report?


argh, i was just writing a lengthy response but my session expired and all was lost. hahahha oh well nevermind.


i'll just briefly sum up my reply now -

when i said cut out the conception. i meant just be aware, dont group,rationlise,catagorise,justify things. just be aware of their existence. In a trip setting this applies to the good and bad hallucinations and senses you experience. when you see comfortable,good,pleasurable things just enjoy them but dont dwell on them. let those thoughts flow through, if you cling on to one of them when it leaves (and it always will) you will be overcome with sadness, grief,etc. if you see some extremely scary,grotesque/whatever things do the same. acknowledge they are there and just enjoy them, there is no good or evil in the universe! if you can let go of the "illusions" you will get much closer to the source, or "truth". Everything that ever was and ever will be is all in your head, because time is merely your ego trying to catagorise things, there is no time! :)
you even started coming to realising this :)

"We spend so much time wanting to trip. To try and distance ourselves from reality and connect with that unseen world around us. It's always there and will always be. Patiently waiting. As should we. I was perfectly OK either way.


when i said "more is less. the chemical is key. Now, is 100 keys better than 1? and what use is the key, if the lock has not been prepared?" I was responding to you saying your going to up the dose next time. As hoffman(or was it someone else? i forget hahah) said chemicals such as LSD are merely keys to unlock your mind. The ancient aztecs only used enough MG seeds to fit in the palm of one's hand for divination! (thats like, 400 seeds at the most). What is more important is preparation of the mind, find the lock you are trying to unlock before you try would be more efficient than using hundreds of thousands of keys and randomly jabbing at the endless amounts of locks in your mind hoping to strike it lucky, would it not?

What helped me make the leap into nothingness was just remembering to just be. When you no longer desire illusions, you will find the source.


This is not an unknown concept (ahh there i go egoising again lol) and many have been trying to tell us since...well since forever. Look at the many philosophies,religions,arts,science,paradoxes, they all have a similar idea.

in daoism/taoism (dao means way or path in chinese) -
wikipedia said:
Taoist thought focuses on wu wei (non-action), spontaneity, transformation and emptiness/omnipotence. An emphasis is placed on the link between people and nature, and that this link lessens the need for rules and order, leading one to a better understanding of the world.

notice the need for non-action, spontaneity (naturalness), and the paradox of emptiness/omnipotence?

Tao te Ching said:
Chapter 1


The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao
The name that can be named is not the eternal name
The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth
The named is the mother of myriad things
Thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence
Constantly with desire, one observes its manifestations
These two emerge together but differ in name
The unity is said to be the mystery
Mystery of mysteries, the door to all wonders

Things that you can concieve, label, judge, isn't the true/source. Merely it's manifestations/illusions which is limitless
Conciousness (life) and unconciousness (death) are united by, you - the ego - the mind. YOU are the force between life and death, truth and false, good and bad, YOU determine whether something is moral or not. be aware of this, and realise the need not to judge - and you will unlock "the door to all wonders".

Tao te Ching said:
Chapter 2

They act but do not presume
They succeed but do not dwell on success
It is because they do not dwell on success
That it never goes away

They (the sages,mystics,saints,enlightened) live in the NOW, not the future. When they succeed, they merely accept this and move on, no desire to retain. and remember where there is good there is evil, the evil to desire is fear. if you desire something and make it part of you like a limb then you will be scared,sad,depressed if you do not get that thing, and when it leaves (which it eventually will) it will be like your arm has been ripped off. this is the cause of all sadness.

in hinduism - dharma (natures/natural way), samsara (rebirth/reincarnation), karma (cause and effect), moksha (liberation from the cycle of life and death - enlightenment), and yoga (the practices which lead to freedom from the lifecycle samsara, achieving moksha). Notice the re-emergement of thems of natures way (just being), rebirth indicating cycle of life/death, cause and effect (your previous experiences, or egotistical filters, determine your experiences in the present), and the desire for liberation from the life cycle (dieing, but not really dieing!) ,to attain enlightenment. Yoga - was the hindu's version of LSD ;)


In christianity,

bible said:
The Kingdom (of Heaven) is inside you and it is outside you

What did i say before, it is ALL INSIDE YOUR HEAD! EVERYTHING!

bible said:
Split a piece of wood, and I am there

I/YOU are what lies between 2 opposites, good/evil,fact/fiction,etc etc. You determine them!

bible said:
Blessed are the Poor in Spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven

spirit is our concept of self, poor is the absence of things. thus, those who have nothing ATTACHED to their spirt/ego/self, will recieve "the kingdom of heaven"

bible said:
Blessed are the Pure in Heart, for they shall see GOD

what does purity mean? nothing. the absence of blemishes, distractins, games, in heart - meaning in YOU. Clear your ego from desires, scars, experience, and bias and you shall obtain enlightenment,and die (thus, see the creator - god)




In islam,

wikipedia said:
The word Islam means "submission", or the total surrender of oneself to God

submission, what is submission? non-action, absense of desire. just "being". God - is just an interpretation for the source or origin.

wikipedia said:
God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.

If what i said in my first paragraph was true, that everything that ever was and ever will be (absolute) then that must mean God, is really just US. WE are our OWN gods, a person is unique-he is the "one and only", even genetically identical twins are different (and there is none like unto him). The "eternal" i believe refers to reincarnation, rebirth, endlessless (seem familiar? ;) ) .


Geez that was a loong post lol, props for anyone that reads it haha.



for you tl;dr'ers

life doesn't end, nor does it have a point. It is like a fractal image, there is neither a starting point nor an ending point. trying to look at the spirals and seeing where they end, or oppositely - trying to see where it begins is pointless. you will never find it. just accept it as it is - behold its beauty as a whole, as one, in unity.




You will see the concept of a "real" and not "real" in science aswell. Even in basic calculus - complex numbers. Life is not linear, there is the "real" part and there is an "imaginary" part, i (notice the seemingly coincidentalness, synonymous to i is me :) )

The concious universe is which you can see is ONE (1) The unconsious thus opposite is -1 (you cannot see -1 apples, or -1 anything) . The square root (its a square root because of duality) or source of the unconsious is i (or me, or you :) )

Mathematics is the science of everything, and everything (even the arts, language, craft) contains maths. However unlike previously thought, the number line is not linear, there is always a "real" part, and an "imaginary" part :)


Look at all the psychedelic fractals and visuals and art out there, they are all made from complex numbers!


200px-Color_complex_plot.jpg


The above picture is the visual interpretation of the funtion

f(x)=(x²-1)(x-2-i)²/(x²+2+2i)



Now, time to go to work! :D I hope even one person enjoyed this wall of text i created (or revealed) hahahha
 
Xorkoth said:
Nice report, thanks for sharing! LSA-containing plants reallt are fantastic, a hidden gem. The nausea and bodyload can be quite bad but it passes and the trip is wonderful.

Agreed!

I'm a bit of an LSA fan myself, but have never bothered with MG seeds, just HBW. Is there any significant difference? The report sounds pretty similar, but I'd rather eat 10-15 big seeds than 100s of little ones. I've never experienced much nausea with HBW (as long as the fuzzy crap is well cleaned off) and find it to be a much maligned way of tripping. Very euphoric, giggly and ridiculously visual. Although very high doses can come a bit too close to delirium for my liking.
 
"I hope even one person enjoyed this wall of text i created (or revealed) hahahha"



I def. enjoyed it!! Where I stand is fear.. I have all these ideas, that knowledge, awareness.. and as soon as the psychedelics start shoving it in my face and pulling/tearing at my ego.. I panic :! :( seems that there must be something strong there.. some materialistic reign over me.. I read somewhere that amphetamines cause permenant anxiety.. I have a deep love for MDMA but sometimes I wonder if I need to let her go.. I'm always trying to mirror the experience when I trip and then as you know it becomes something much more and again.. I panic 8)

oh well! cant wait for another therapy session.. 150mics in about 2 weeks!

great trip report too!! I havent tried MG yet.. but I have had some blissful times on HBW!!


PEACE
 
justanotherperson said:
argh, i was just writing a lengthy response but my session expired and all was lost. hahahha oh well nevermind.


i'll just briefly sum up my reply now -

That was your brief summary? 8o
 
5meohd said:
"I hope even one person enjoyed this wall of text i created (or revealed) hahahha"



I def. enjoyed it!! Where I stand is fear.. I have all these ideas, that knowledge, awareness.. and as soon as the psychedelics start shoving it in my face and pulling/tearing at my ego.. I panic :! :( seems that there must be something strong there.. some materialistic reign over me.. I read somewhere that amphetamines cause permenant anxiety.. I have a deep love for MDMA but sometimes I wonder if I need to let her go.. I'm always trying to mirror the experience when I trip and then as you know it becomes something much more and again.. I panic 8)

oh well! cant wait for another therapy session.. 150mics in about 2 weeks!

great trip report too!! I havent tried MG yet.. but I have had some blissful times on HBW!!


PEACE


nothing that you can percieve (feel,touch,smell,see) is permanent, they are merely illusions of your ego. They will all come and go, trying to control them is like trying to pick up burning hot coals. it is possible - but you will just get hurt in the process. Let go of control, and you will let go of fear. Next time, when you start panicking, just realise there is nothing to be scared of. they are merely illusions of the mind, befriend the man-eating demon, greet the heavenly angels. But when they leave - don't feel sorry or glad, just acknowledge they were there, and move on. You know the cliche "just go with the flow" - very useful in a psychedelic experience ;)


Xorkoth said:
That was your brief summary? 8o

haha length is purely subjective. someone out there might think your reply was too lengthy, a simple "that was long" would've sufficed :) But its not the words, nor the quantity of words that matter - what matters is the meaning the words convey. What use is a cup that holds nothing inside?

But yes, i do agree - i have a compulsive urge to speak too many words and this confuses many (just ask my friends on msn, they'll probably all block me in a weeks time hahaha!). I need to just keep it simple, but im still learning heh.

good moments to you all :)
 
Justanotherperson- I must thank you for what information you have given me. I plan to trip for my first time very soon and was scared I would have a bad trip, and it looks like you have squashed that for me. Very well written posts. Thanks again. :)
 
All good man, you're one of the only few people that have thanked me for talking since my experience heh. 99% of people just tell me im crazy and to shutup, but i cant stop talking about it lol >_<

please write a trip report/PM me afterwards, i find it feels good doing what the logical mind does best - compare things.

enjoy :)
 
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