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Morning Glory? Anyone used it?

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I am just wondering if anyone has used Morning Glory and produced similar effects to using acid. If you have I would like to know much you used and what variety of Morning Glory it was. Also, how you ingested it and somewhat of a trip report if you don't mind.
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I haven't tried it but I distinctly remember Sebastians_ghost saying that he would rather have a paper cut on his eyeball than trip off LSA again...
 
Here ya go, if you have any questions just ask: ) http://www2.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum19/HTML/005854.html
by the way, there are some people who actually love morning glory seeds, so dont take my word for it: )
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[This message has been edited by PuristLove (edited 01 August 2001).]
 
if you're looking for an LSD-like experience, don't even bother. A friend of mine went through the whole process with ether that is described on erowid, and we took the capsules and it was basically just a huge letdown. not to say that some people don't like, because i'm sure a few do, but it is nothing, i repeat, NOTHING, like LSD.
 
I'd be happy to give it a try.
I've heard bad things about it but I'm pretty open to try almost anything unless I don't know anything about it.
Of what I know about high LSA content in morning glory... Heavenly Blue is the best.
I think there are 3 varieties that are good but the only one that sticks in my mind is Heavenly Blue, and I can clearly recall seeing packets of them at any place selling flower seeds...in this case Rite Aid and Ace Hardware.
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Heavenly Blues, Pearly Gates, and Flying Saucers...
My suggestion is to get Hawaiin Baby Woodrose Seeds instead because the amount u have to consume is so much less... 8-9 seeds as compared to several hundred...
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morning glory contains ergometrine which i read is toxic. it constricts the blood vessels. i've tried it several times in 'space cadets'- a designer combo with baby woodrose & some herbal stimulants. it also contains selenium oxide to help prevent nausea, because the nausea is EXTREME. best to extract the lsa from the seeds. apart from the nausea they are good though. quite surreal and you get put in an acid-like space but without hallucinations. maybe if you do enough you'll get a more full-on trip. oh, you might like to try ololique seeds if you can get them (they're rare). they're like morning glory but apparently have a stimulating effect.
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Ololiuqui is the Aztec name for the seeds of certain convolvulaceous plants which have been used since prehispanic times by the Aztecs and related tribes, just as the sacred mushrooms and the cactus peyotl have been used in their religious ceremonies for magic and religious purposes. Ololiuqui is still used in our day by certain tribes, such as the Zapotecs, Chinantecs, Mazatecs, and Mixtecs, who live in the remote mountains of southern Mexico in comparative isolation, little or not at all influenced by Christianity.
An excellent review of the historical, botanical, and ethnological aspects of ololiuqui was given in 1941 by Schultes in his monograph "A Contribution to Our Knowledge of Rivea corymbosa: The Narcotic Ololiuqui of the Aztecs" ([38] ). The following information on the history of ololiuqui, its botanical identification and its past and present use have been taken mainly from Schultes' monograph.
One of the first descriptions and the first illustration of ololiuqui were given by Francisco Hernandez, a Spanish physician who between 1570 and 1575 carried out extensive research on the flora and fauna of Mexico for Philip II. In his famous "Rerum medicarum Novae Hispaniae thesaurus, seu plantarum, animalium, mineralium mexicanorum historia", which appeared in 1651 in Rome, Hernandez described and classified ololiuqui under the heading "De Oliliuhqui, seu planta orbicularium foliorum".
An extract of a free translation of the 1651 Latin version reads as follows: "Oliliuhqui, which some call coaxihuitl, or snake-plant, is a twinning herb with thin, green, cordate leaves, slender, green terete stems, and long white flowers. The seed is round and very like coriander."
In this work Hernandez claims that priests ate ololiuqui which induced a delirious state during which they were able to receive messages from the supernatural and communicate with their gods. He reported that priests saw visions and went into a state of terrifying hallucinations under the influence of the drug.
If we are to judge from the many ancient writers quoted in Schultes' monograph, ololiuqui must have been very extensively used in the valleys of Mexico in prehispanic times. It seems to have been more important in divinity than peyotl or teonanácatl. However, the medicinal use was also very extensive. Ololiuqui served to cure flatulence, to remedy venereal troubles, to deaden pain, and to remove tumours. Ololiuqui was believed to possess a deity of its own, which worked miracles if properly propitiated.
In spite of the above relatively good description and characteristic illustration by Hernandez, the botanical identification of ololiuqui caused a great number of discussions in professional circles. Finally, in 1897, M. Urbina identified ololiuqui as Rivea corymbosa Hall. f. (syn . Ipomoea sidaefolia (HBK)). This identification was confirmed by Schultes.
In Mexico, Rivea corymbosa is known and has been known by a number of different vernacular names, the more important of which are: Aztec: oliliuhqui, ololiuqui, coaxihuitl, cuexpalli; Chinantec: a-mu-kia, huan-mei, huan-men-ha-sei; Maya: xtabentum; Mazatec: no-so-le-na; Mixtec: yucu-yaha; Zapotec: bador, badoh, bitoo, kwan-la-si, kwan-do-a; Spanish: flor de la Virgen, la señorita, manto, pascua, piule, semilla de la Virgen, yerba de las serpientes, yerba de la Virgen.
Ololiuqui was used by the ancient Aztecs not only as a potion but also as an ingredient of magical ointments. At the present time the crushed seeds are taken in water or in alcoholic beverages such as pulque, mescal, or aguardiente. Reko described in detail the present use of ololiuqui in his monograph "Magische Gifte" ([39] ). Usually the professional soothsayers, "piuleros", give their clients advice under the influence of the piule drink, another name for ololiuqui. Sometimes they also give the ololiuqui drank to their client or patient, who then replies to the piulero's leading questions in a narcotic-hypnotic state produced by the drug and thus reveals facts or discovers his illness, for which the piulero then finds the medicines.
The only report on chemical investigations with the seeds of Rivea corymbosa mentioned in Schultes' review on ololiuqui is that of the pharmacologist Santesson in Stockholm in 1937. He was, however, unsuccessful in isolating definite crystalline compounds. Alcoholic extracts produced a kind of narcosis or partial narcosis in frogs and mice. Certain chemical reactions seemed to suggest the presence of a gluco-alkaloid.
Taken from http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/references/other/1971_hofmann_bulletin-narcotics.shtml
While Rivea corymbosa does appear to have twice the number of ergot alkaloids as the other varieties of morning glory seeds, it comes not even close to the Hawaiin Baby WoodRose seed...
Hope this information has helped
Pure
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I've experimented with Morning Glories many times, and I find it to be both similar and different from LSD. If you are looking for a full blown psychedelic experience from MG seeds, I wouldn't bother. I've ingested over 10g of powdered seeds before, and experienced hightened textural sensations, boldening of colors, tracers, and if I was lucky, saw the walls and floors shift (but not continuously like on acid). That's it. No real feelings of psychedelic revelation; only feelings of joint pain and stomach discomfort. You can also get ergotism from ingesting MG seeds, which from what I hear is an agonizing disease. Just stick with acid. It's cheap, clean, and unless you have some latent mental illness, is psychologically and physically harmless.
 
DON'T EVER DO THEM!!! It's not worth it. It causes extreme nausea, and vomiting. Just put out the $10 for acid...
 
man, i think morning glory seeds are GREAT!!! I've eaten them about a half dozen times...the strongest dosage i ingested was like, 8 grams.....i ground them up in a coffee grinder and stirred them up in a quiktrip slushee.....we sat around a bit, smoked a joint, and got really fucked up...i would compare the morning glory high to a pot-brownie high....i ate heavenly blues everytime i did it....i had intense tracers, shifting of patterns (like in the carpet, the ceiling, etc.)....the last time i did them i went to Worlds of Fun (a theme park) and rode the Mamba (this big fucking roller coaster)...GODDAMNED WAS THAT GREAT!!!! i was white knuckled and had my eyes tight shut the whole time, but it was astronautically intense.......there was this one week when i went to the nursery & garden store like, 3 times to buy the shits.....the manager gave me this really dirty look the third time and told me "those are gonna cause problems.....big problems"...i aske him what he was talking about, and he replied "if your doing what i think you're doing with those, you'd better stop...."...since then that store doesn't sell morning glory seeds anymore...HA......actually, no store in a 20 mile radius of my house sells the bastards....its a shame too, because i get a GREAT big kick out of them.....I would recommmend grinding the bastards up, putting the powder in a cup of water, stir them up, and let them soak for an hour or so, and then just drink the water......much easier on your stomach.....Dude, morning glories are GREAT!!! But you gotta get the Heavenly Blues, and you gotta watch out so you don't puke......peace
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ever since i used to do morning glory and hbwr i 've noticed that my fingers and toes, esp the ends of them, are colder than the rest of me. when the weather is cold they can get freezing and go almost numb. maybe the poor circulation is due to the ergot/ergometrine.
 
Yeah tried MG seeds twice...
First time I ate about 6 slices of pizza, and then consumed about 300 ground up seeds (Heavenly Blues...used HBs for the second time also.) The stomach pains I felt were some of the worst in my life. I tried puking several times, but to no avail. I did get mild hallucinations (just wavyness and such), some odd twitching...I was fascinated by my face in the mirror...at some points it was though I was observing an alien being. My dad looked very old and alien too...glad he didn't say anything to me, because I may have freaked out. Anyways the stomach pains lasted for like 2 hours, then suddenly went away. The effects mentioned above lasted for maybe 2-3 hours. The next few days my stomach felt horrible; it felt as though the seeds were stuck on the inside of my stomach. Not exactly the most pleasant sensation in the world.
After this disappointing trip I had no urging desire to do MG ever again.
Jump ahead almost a year, when me and two friends decided to spend a Thursday night with a MG trip. We decided to consume 600 seeds (I know...big jump from 300, but me and one friend who was there, who tried MG too once, wanted a bigger/better effect.) Anyways because we figured the trip would last only a short while, we had some DXM present, and planned to DXM into late night and next morning after the MG wore off.
If only it happened that way...
At roughly 7pm we got started. We decided to mix the ground up seeds with chocolate pudding, which by our logic would hide the horrible taste of the seeds (which, BTW, if I think about that horrible taste, to this very day, I can get ill to my stomach.) First and foremost, I will never eat chocolate pudding ever again. Never. EVER. Again.
It tasted like dirt had been mixed into the pudding. The one female member of the group finished within 10 minutes, to my surprise. I guess I should mention too that both me and the other tripper present neglected to tell her of the horrible stomach pains. I did use the words "mild stomach discomfort" at one point, in her presence, though...that thought still makes me laugh.
It took me and the other guy about an hour to get all that crap down. It was NOT easy. At one point I had to seperate myself from him because, in each other's presence, we wouldn't eat due to constant complaining about how awful the stuff tasted. Somewhere in this period of time I decided to break out the glass pipe and start taking hits. I felt as though some green might make consumption move along at a quicker pace. For the bigger picture though, I figured green (large amounts of it, taken right after seed consumption) would ease or eliminate the stomach pains. Well, let me say this...I am a genius, because I felt NO stomach pains.
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Anyway after an hour or so, and many hits, we got all the seeds down. Our female colleague spent pretty much the whole time lying on her bed, complaining about stomach pains.
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I could tell right away, and proceeded to tell the other two, that a memorable and intense experience was on the horizon...I could feel it. We continued to smoke green, hoping to keep pain to a minimum (worked for me...after short time passed I think we all were pretty much ok in that regard.) After lord knows how many hits we just kinda lost interest in smoking...either that or we were too lazy/messed up to fill the thing and smoke it. : /
At this point I felt very happy and open. The three of us just sat around and talked; I think we tried to watch The Mummy...lost interest though.
At this point the gap comes into play...next thing I know I am more fucked up than I ever thought possible. My very perception of time, space, and simple concepts such as counting were far beyond my understanding and comprehension. I kept trying to understand just how minutes turned into hours, hours into days, days into weeks, etc. If someone were to ask me what I had planned for the next day I would have probably given them a very baffled look.
I kept asking the other two how counting worked. I didn't even understand the concept. I remember at one point begging "Could someone please tell me the signifigance of one-two-three...please...what does it mean? Can someone tell me?"
Most of what I felt that night goes beyond words...it was a complete distortion of reality. I think I had a visual hallucination once...at one point I remember I looked at the ceiling, and saw some mobile or something hanging, and spinning slowly. I asked a few times if there was something there, but my requests were ignored. I walked back and forth into the kitchen a few times...at this point the other two were completely out. I was just trying to make some sense of what was going on. After quite some time I felt the urge to puke, and after being unsucessful I said "Screw this...I'm gonna puke dammit" and did the old finger-at-back-of-throat trick...puked up this blob of black liquid.
At around this point I just plain didn't know what to do anymore...literally. Should I walk? Stand? Sleep? Eat? Think...? I felt I had had enough and wanted it to end. After some time I managed to calm myself enough to drift into sleep.
The next morning I felt completely drained. The only thing I wanted to do was sit somewhere, motionless, and not be disturbed. Unfortunately reality was back, and I had work later on in the day. I went in, but spent most of the night just staggering about, with no motivation to do any more than the bare miniumum of movement. I got a good night's sleep that night, and felt almost 100% the next day.
My opinion on Morning Glory? I would recommend trying it at least once...it's definitely a completey alien, and reality altering, experience...unique from anything else I have ever done.
Beware the stomach pains though...green kept them away from me, so I would recommend keeping on the pipe or bong until you are sure no pain is present. Oh yeah, as for those DXM plans...we didn't expect the trip to last for 10+ hours (yes...the whole ordeal lasted, from the time we ingested to the time we all fell asleep, around 10 hours.) Needless to say there was no DXM present that night.
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Hope I answered whatever questions you may have...
 
So far eatadick and the prophet have had pretty good experiences with MG, with the excption of the stomach pains. I know I can get this on erowid but how did you guys specifically prepare the seeds? There are a few methods I've seen. What works best? I've been thinking bout MG for a while now and just want some advice b4 i do them.
 
Ive tried about 250 seeds but I didn't get much effects. Felt "strange" for a little bit but after that nothing. I'm pretty sure I just didn't eat enough. Although I did however feel the nausia, woooo eeeeee...I can only imagine what that would be like on 500+ seeds. You know when you get nausia so badly that it actually starts to make you dizzy and makes it hard to breathe? That kind of nausia. Everyone I have talked to have said that weed helps ALOT, so I can recommend you have some with you in case. Also if you mix it with something make sure it
A) Hides the flavour
B) It's diluted enough so that it doesn't taste like water and sand
 
As far as preparation goes, I simply lumped the seeds into a mini-coffeee grinder, ground them up as much as I could, and...
1st MG Trip - just consumed the ground up seeds...BAD IDEA...these seeds taste awful.
2nd MG Trip - mixed the ground up seeds with chocolate pudding. Worked ok, but it tasted horrible and felt nasty...like eating pudding mixed with dirt. Mixing the seed powder with some kinda food is prolly your best bet. Just keep in mind that when all is said and done, there is a good chance you will never touch the food product used ever again.
BTW in any case I would strongly recommend some green for the stomach pains...I heard Dramamine (as someone suggested) might work too, but I know from firsthand experience that green does work.
Also I purchased the seeds from an online source which sold untreated MGs. Keep in mind that if you get these from the local K-Mart or supermarket you're prolly getting the treated stuff. There are methods to supposedly make them ok for consumption, but from what I've read the procedures are lengthly and involved...do yourself a favor and track down some untreated seeds.
 
yeh, you want untreated seeds - you dont want too much mercury inside you!
can anyone give me a difinative answer as to whether MG seeds (untreated ones), and also the baby woordrose are toxic?
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