More potent heroin a real danger

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More potent heroin a real danger
Paul Murphy
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6.19.09



The billboard on the highway leading out of St. Bernard Parish reads, "Drugs Kill."

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It's a warning to would-be drug users heading into New Orleans to buy heroin.

St. Bernard Chief Deputy Jimmy Pohlmann says his narcotics officers have noticed heroin is now more popular and more accessible than illegal prescription drugs.

"We're seeing another spike in heroin overdoses here recently in St. Bernard Parish," he said. "In a month we had about 10 cases of overdoses, one resulted in death. Most of them we believe are heroin overdoses."

Recently, St. Bernard deputies made what they call a monitoring buy to check the purity of the heroin, now on the streets.

Chief Pohlmann says the purity of the drug was off the charts and some users are finding out the hard way.

"They might be accustomed to shooting a certain dosage of heroin and have the effect of just getting high," said Pohlmann. "If you use the same dosage, but it's a very pure heroin that's out on the street right now, can cause death."

St. Bernard and New Orleans share a common border and a common drug problem.

NOPD Deputy Chief James Scott says when it comes to heroin, you never know what you're buying.

"If there's anyone that's thinking about purchasing heroin on the city streets of New Orleans, they have to realize it could be 2 percent, it could be 10 percent heroin, it could be 20 percent heroin. It just depends on how much they cut it down," said Scott. "Their life depends on that heroin not being pure and there's no control on it whatsoever."

Deputies say there is some evidence the increase in heroin use is fueling some of the recent violence in the area.

"Some of our post interviews of our arrested subjects and heroin addicts, they're telling us that the drug dealers in the Ninth Ward and other areas across the region prefer to have weapons if they're going to do any trade, property for drugs," said Pohlmann.

"Anytime we have any information on heroin distribution, that's our priority target over any other drugs what-so-ever because of the violence associated with it and the demand for it and the fact that it's out there," said Scott.

Chief Scott says heroin is now the third most popular drug in New Orleans behind marijuana and crack cocaine.

He says heroin started to spike in the city earlier this year because of a cocaine shortage brought on by the recent drug wars in Mexico.

Chief Polhmann in St. Bernard says with heroin, comes an increase in burglaries...addicts breaking into homes and cars looking for guns and other valuables.

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Wait a second, their lives depend on heroin not being pure? I think their bodies would beg to differ. If these people had access to clean, pure heroin 100% of the time, they wouldn't be overdosing.

Actually, I believe overdoses would be rather uncommon. You take a known dose and have a predictable effect- unlike some drugs, dose to effect is quite straight with heroin.
 
haha glad to see we all think alike, the bass ackwards statement on purity jumped right out at me. If there was no shitty purity smack in the first place to trick users into raising the bar there wouldn't be overdoses happening like they are... I can't believe people make these statements and truly believe them, if all heroin were pure it would completely eliminate that particular od threat... It would lock the bar in place and set the same standard for all, how is that not safer? I wish I could go into this guys medicine cabinet, crush up all the pills into uniform powder, add varying levels of lactose and shit to the different bottles, then tell him to go about his normal routine and try to take his medicine. Have fun buddy, especially trying to figure out just how big the 10mg oxy your on for your back is now. Oh, now you feel YOUR life depends on your drugs being pure and standardized? Interesting..

Chief Scott says heroin is now the third most popular drug in New Orleans behind marijuana and crack cocaine.

Well personally, I'd rather have more heroin users then crack heads running around... If the trend continued and knocked crack down to the number three spot I don't think it would be a bad thing for their crime stats... Hasn't there been more violent crime connected to coke n crack?


He says heroin started to spike in the city earlier this year because of a cocaine shortage brought on by the recent drug wars in Mexico.

What's that you say officer? People are going to want to alter their consciousnesses and will succeed at doing so no matter what 'advances' are made in the drug war? That what ya just told me? Ok just makin sure. Go guess how much OC to spoon out now and think about what you've learned.
 
Wait a second, their lives depend on heroin not being pure? I think their bodies would beg to differ. If these people had access to clean, pure heroin 100% of the time, they wouldn't be overdosing.

Actually, I believe overdoses would be rather uncommon. You take a known dose and have a predictable effect- unlike some drugs, dose to effect is quite straight with heroin.

People would still experiment with mixing depressants, and may not dose each appropriately. Also, tolerance plays a factor, and frankly, people are stupid and don't always take that into account. But yeah, it would drop. :)
 
I remember somebody from Houston posting they scored bomb dope that was supposedly from New Orleans, and they had a minor OD...some strong powder which is rare in these parts.

I read the same thing and I believe the overall consensus was that meico has started up a fent lab and are mixing it in their dope. Unlike the recent scare a year or so back that started in the northeast and made it out to chicago.

It seems that the southern cities are in for it this time. This may well be a test of how to distribute fentanyl laced stuff. Both times it seems to be in specific cities.

Off subject I overdosed snorting 3 bags and heroin here got way more potent on average recently. I had to IM half a naloxone ampule in to a friend. That was from 4 bags... I wonder if she would have come to on her own, but the lack of breathing and the way she just "fell out" made me feel obligated to bring her back to at least conciousness. Better safe than sorry.

I also got a headache, which always happens on fent so I am curious if a tiny tiny bit was mixed in.
 
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People would still experiment with mixing depressants, and may not dose each appropriately. Also, tolerance plays a factor, and frankly, people are stupid and don't always take that into account. But yeah, it would drop. :)

Yeah, straight heroin overdoses would be much less common.

Would people mix depressants and opioids as much? The high isn't better; I've only done it to use less. If I would have had higher potency stuff, though, I wouldn't have a need or desire to mix.
 
haha, really, so much for the french connection =p

(not knockin it lol seriously, the little bit of shit I've seen in buffalo probably wasn't even 35 =\ )


Is there even an easy way to clean dope like an acetone wash for blow?.. fuck washin coke, cleaning up smack would actually serve a more meaningful purpose..
 
around here theres some 35% pure going around... havn't tried it coz i'm on mmt, but thats pretty strong for H!

That seems rather low, even considering where you're at. I can't say I've seen any %'s from France, but last I read they hover around >50% on average in the UK...
 
Wait a second, their lives depend on heroin not being pure? I think their bodies would beg to differ. If these people had access to clean, pure heroin 100% of the time, they wouldn't be overdosing.

Actually, I believe overdoses would be rather uncommon. You take a known dose and have a predictable effect- unlike some drugs, dose to effect is quite straight with heroin.

This article from the early '70s sheds light on the phenom known as the 'Heroin Overdose'- that it is neither caused by Diamorphine nor is it an overdose.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=433933&highlight=heroin+overdose+myth
 
If these people had access to clean, pure heroin 100% of the time, they wouldn't be overdosing.

Actually, I believe overdoses would be rather uncommon. You take a known dose and have a predictable effect- unlike some drugs, dose to effect is quite straight with heroin.

Abso-fucking-lutely.
Well said Hammy.
 
man when i wasn't on suboxone maint. i was lucky to get 20% pure dope!
i'll never forget the one time i've had powder. and it was from jersey (and harlem i think), but i'm from southern cali...
 
All drugs need to be legal and labeled for purity just like wine and distilled spirits have their alcohol content shown on the label.
 
Chief Polhmann in St. Bernard says with heroin, comes an increase in burglaries...addicts breaking into homes and cars looking for guns and other valuables.


Gee, thanx for the definition of burglary.... I think with any true junkie that wants to get high will break into any car/house for valuables to get any type of drug they want..
 
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