more or less unorthodoxanal cycles

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crazycatman

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Now I know that most cycle advice is use test as a base and add some other compounds.

However what if you used just enough test for normal body functions and let other drugs do the work?

First is the low test/high tren which is popular amongst many people, but there is no reason to stop there,
How about low test/medium tren medium npp?
Low test high deca/npp.
Low test high npp high dbol.
Low test high tren high dbol (or drol).
Low test high 1-test-cyp.
Low test high mast.

And so on...

I know libido could be a problem but other than that? You still have enough test for bodily functions and conversion to e2...

Anyone tried anything similar? Results (looks, strenght, feeling, ..)?

It does look interesting on paper...
 
This isn't something new. Many people choose to use trt doses of test for cycles. Results will depend, test + masteron won't bloat you as much as test + deca for example. What are your goals ?
 
Not currently planing on doing something like it but was wondering about the personal experiences of others running these things. So if anyone has done something simmilar please share.

Thanks!
 
Right now I am currently running 250mg of Testosterone E every week with 100mg of Trenbolone Ace everyday, and 800mg of Equipoise every week and I love it. A lot of bodybuilders will reduce the Testosterone dosage in a lot of cycles if they are looking to lean out primarily or to limit sides from very androgenic steroids such as Tren.

You never run low test with Nandrolone though. That's a recipe for libido problems and fatigue. You need a moderate dosage of Testosterone.
 
@ Guido
I have never ran EQ above 600mg a week, is there a substantial increase in benefits or sides? Only reason I am asking is because i plan on running EQ beginning a long ( 16-20week) blast starting in January, along side 500mg test E and 400mg Deca, haven't settled in on the orals for the program yet but i will start and end with orals. The set up you have there seems like a nice run wish I could tolerate the tren at 100mg, any thing above 50-75 /ed and the insomnia for me is just vicious and well frankly I am prone to migraines and tren will give them to me every time... But I digress are you running any orals along the test,eq and tren?
 
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@ Guido
I have never ran EQ above 600mg a week, is there a substantial increase in benefits or sides? Only reason I am asking is because i plan on running EQ beginning a long ( 16-20week) blast starting in January, along side 500mg test E and 400mg Deca, haven't settled in on the orals for the program yet but i will start and end with orals. The set up you have there seems like a nice run wish I could tolerate the tren at 100mg, any thing above 50-75 /ed and the insomnia for me is just vicious and well frankly I am prone to migraines and tren will give them to me every time... But I digress are you running any orals along the test,eq and tren?
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There is an increase in benefits. Definitly more anabolic at 800mg and gives much more fullness and vascularity (as long as you are lean enough). As far as sides... My blood pressure is higher with the increased dosage but no high to warrant concern by a physician. Everyone is different. Some people get terrible blood pressure issues and horrid anxiety on high dosages of EQ but so far I have had none and I attribute that to starting the lowest effective dosage and working my way up to a higher one over time.

EQ, Deca, and Test is what I am thinking of running this winter. From what I gather from other bodybuilders it's a really nice stack and you can put on quality size as long as you eat right, train right, and have a foundation. If you can't tolerate Trenbolone I would try 1-Test Cypionate (Dihydroboldeone), it's like Tren but without the sides. Or you could use NPP, it's short ester Deca; It has very little bloat compared to Deca, and if your diet is good you can really put on lean mass with it and lose fat. Just some things for you to consider if you want to try something new and get Tren like effects.

Yes. I am running orals. Currently I am running 22.5mg of M1T (Methyldihydroboldenone). I will do so for 5 weeks in order to put on some quick mass and then I will transition to 20mg-30mg of Superdrol.
 
Good to know that there is a sizable increase in the benefits with little to no real appreciable increase in the negative side of Eq. For me at 600mg/ week I get no blood pressure issues at all so a bump to 800mg a week I don’s see causing an issue. Yeah I did the same thing with Eq when I started running it in my blasts 3 years ago, started at 200 - went to 400 that first run, and the next went from 400 - 600. I got great results. I def agree with the philosophy of the minimum dose to get the job done. I’m sitting a little high right now 10% BF but that’s due to a slow summer training wise for me with an injury and some family issues so the stress piles the weight on. . . Plus I work as a sus chef so I have to learn to take the occupation into account with my diet. But I have been training since high school, through college and 6 years in the Army as a Ranger, so I have a good solid foundation and a solid program and diet in place so I have from now till January to get to about 7-8% before running the long blast. My blast looks similar to what your going to be running but like I said I haven’t set the orals in stone yet.

I most def will look into 1 test cyp if you say I can get tren like results with out the killer migraines that tren gives me. That set up of M1T and Superdrol sounds like your gonna get pretty big and solid mate. Well Thanks for the advice and the candor mate hope your run goes well ^-^

~Cheers
 
>You never run low test with Nandrolone though. That's a recipe for libido problems and fatigue. You need a moderate dosage of Testosterone.
I just included that one as another of the more unorthodox cycles, didn't really mean it to be a suggestion for some one to try.. more as a point of discussion (of course if someone does do it a report would be nice).

The low test, high tren and dbol (or drol) is something I'd like to try once the conditions are right.
 
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