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Molecularly combining substances
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delta_9
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No.
You can bond atoms or functional groups to other atoms or functional groups(within the laws of chemistry, of course), but then you have a totally new compound with totally new physical and chemical properties. It would not be THC & Meth in one drug.
Even the addition of a single atom to a known molecule could have drastic results.
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You can bond atoms or functional groups to other atoms or functional groups(within the laws of chemistry, of course), but then you have a totally new compound with totally new physical and chemical properties. It would not be THC & Meth in one drug.
Even the addition of a single atom to a known molecule could have drastic results.
You're a bit confused. They are analogs. MDMA is not Meth + ?, MDMA is MDMA and Meth is Meth. They are different compounds with different chemical, physical, structural, and pharmacological actions.
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No this is as basic as can be. Chem 101 we're talkin here.
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fryingsquirrel
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No. While it is possible for one drugs structure to contain another drug (dmt in psilocybin being one example), the things you mentioned are completely different in structure. Erowid.org has structures of pretty much every common drug, once you look at them you'll see how they aren't compatible.
It might be possible to attach one drug molecule to another in some cases, but the resulting compound would likely not retain the affects of either.
It might be possible to attach one drug molecule to another in some cases, but the resulting compound would likely not retain the affects of either.
kurt_cocaine
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as cool as it would be to have THC/morphine or MDMA/LSD, i believe its pretty much impossible. if you were too successfully combine 2 molecules together you COULD potentially create a new substance, but it may be without any recreational or medicinal value. even if the original molecules were something good like an opiate or psychedelic it wouldnt matter.
MDMA is better thought of as a modification to the structure of methamphetamine - it is in no way a combination of two different drugs.
It's methamphetamine with the methylenedioxy functional group (in the 3,4- position) - and the result produces is drastically different effects.
You cannot bond two drugs chemically and have them produce effects similar to that of the individual drugs, because the bulk of the second drug attached to the first drug would prevent the first from binding to whatever receptor it binds to to produce it's effects.
You also can't generally create a single drug that will effect multiple different unrelated receptors (ex, combination of cannabinoid, (CB1/2) + psychedelic (5HT2A)), because the things that bind to different classes of receptor are very different (CB activity needs THC-like bicyclic molecule or an aryl-alkyl-indole, while 5HT2A is acted on by phenethylamines, tryptamines, and ergoloids).
It's methamphetamine with the methylenedioxy functional group (in the 3,4- position) - and the result produces is drastically different effects.
You cannot bond two drugs chemically and have them produce effects similar to that of the individual drugs, because the bulk of the second drug attached to the first drug would prevent the first from binding to whatever receptor it binds to to produce it's effects.
You also can't generally create a single drug that will effect multiple different unrelated receptors (ex, combination of cannabinoid, (CB1/2) + psychedelic (5HT2A)), because the things that bind to different classes of receptor are very different (CB activity needs THC-like bicyclic molecule or an aryl-alkyl-indole, while 5HT2A is acted on by phenethylamines, tryptamines, and ergoloids).