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Misc Modafinil "smart drug" ... Anyone use this before?

Chris42393

Chris42393

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So ive been doing some research on smart drugs and Modafinil came up quite a bit. Its typically prescribed for narcolepsy, sleep apnea and people who are on the "night shift" to keep them awake. Im pretty sure I can get this drug, simply because of my job and my doctor is pretty liberal about prescribing me stuff ... but has anyone ever used this for a "smart drug" effect? How was it? Did it seem to help? Can you explain the effects?

Thanks!
 
I was prescribed it for a while. I fail to see how it's a "smart" (nootropic) drug. All it does it keep you awake, and maybe produce a small amount of motivation for getting work done. If you take more than the minimum dose it gives a weird uncomfortable stimulation. If you can't stay awake or need to stay awake for a long time, it's a good drug, that's about it, in my experience.
 
I take it for narcolepsy all it does is make me feel awake and not like amphetamine awake. I mean like just kinda like a big cup of black coffee.
 
Seems to be efficacious, although abusability appears to be an entirely different matter.

Several militaries seem to have taken interest in it..

In the United States military, modafinil has been approved for use on certain Air Force missions, and it is being investigated for other uses. As of November 2012, modafinil is the only drug approved by the Air Force as a "go pill" for fatigue management. The use of dextroamphetamine is no longer approved.

The French government indicated that the Foreign Legion used modafinil during certain covert operations. The United Kingdom's Ministry of Defence commissioned research into modafinil from QinetiQ and spent £300,000 on one investigation.

The Indian Air Force is testing wonder drug Modafinil to enhance pilots abilities during combat and natural calamities. The pill can keep one vigilant and awake for at least 37 hours.. source
 
It's on my list for sure but - at least here in the UK - you can only get Modafinil (or a similar drug, Armodafinil) prescribed to you for narcolepsy. This is also the only disease for which you can get prescribed GHB.
 
I use armodafinil pretty often, for me it is a potent focus and motivation enhancer with very minimal side effects even after prolonged use - quite comparable in fact to amphetamine but with a longer duration and less physical side effects.

I wouldn't say it's recreational, but dose is important - much like more traditional stimulants like amphetamines if you dose too high it can produce a very scattered feeling which is not particularly enjoyable and is a detriment to focus. I have dosed too high by accident on occasion, and I continually use it too many days in a row after which the motivation enhancing effects will start to fade, although the wakefulness promoting effects remain.

It's worth keeping in mind that there is strong genetic variance to the effects, and some people will just not experience certain facets of the effect no matter what dose they use. Some people don't get the motivation enhancement, and some people just don't get anything. However if you are are a responder it should be fairly obvious. People respond differently to the different forms also, for me armodafinil is by far the superior version and feels very dopaminergic, modafinil by comparison is quite subtle, producing wakefulness but with less drive. A friend of mine however enjoys regular modafinil but gets a strong negative reaction to the R isomer. YMMV, but if you're into smart drugs it's definitely worth a try. A recreational stimulant it is not however.
 
Definitely amphetamine without the side effects (good and bad). It keeps you going and you can sleep .. and as far as I can tell has really quite limited abuse potential unless your way stressed and working like hell. Even then .. a weekend to crash and you won't want it anymore.

Haven't touched it since it was semi-legal to buy over the internet though. Prefer the real stims myself.
 
Chris42393 said:
So ive been doing some research on smart drugs and Modafinil came up quite a bit. Its typically prescribed for narcolepsy, sleep apnea and people who are on the "night shift" to keep them awake. Im pretty sure I can get this drug, simply because of my job and my doctor is pretty liberal about prescribing me stuff ... but has anyone ever used this for a "smart drug" effect? How was it? Did it seem to help? Can you explain the effects?

Thanks!
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Yes it helps. I use it at work and can stay on a task much longer than before. It is energizing and actually makes me feel more assertive. Armodafinil is stronger. The downside for me is I can't multitask as well.
 
It likely more nootropic activity than ADD meds, but in terms of focus it may have less utility. It was about to be approved for ADHD but some got the SJ rash. In my opinion some greasy stuff happened, as it would assume the role of being tried before ritalin/amp, as it's less liable to cause addiction.
 
I work night shifts doing a physical job (10pm till 8am) and I am on opiates for pain so I can get pretty drowsy at work due to bad sleep and the combined drowsiness from meds and I struggle to get to sleep once I finish.
This is textbook shift work disorder. One of the conditions modafinil is useful for. Modafinil is meant to keep you awake when needed without interfering with sleep.
I'm in the UK by the way.
It's not simply for those who work shifts. You have to be suffering from shift work disorder. Technically it's prescribed only if you are narcoleptic here in the UK but I can get it prescribed easily.

I'm a big person. My dosage is 100mg. If I take 200mg I get a massive headache (this is a side effect experienced by many). Even at 200mg I can't say I felt really more awake than usual but it's still something. It helps a little but it's not a miracle drug.
It doesn't give me any bad effects. I don't have palpitations or lack of appetite etc. All I experienced that was negative was a really bad headache with a 200mg dose. At 100mg and drinking plenty of water I am ok.
I am used to caffeine daily (been having it since forever) and can sleep even right after drinking some coffee if I'm drowsy. I can go without it for a couple of days and not get a headache... Odd. I thought I'd say that. I have also never used classic illegal stimulants like cocaine or meth or legal stimulants like amphetamines and so on.

Modafinil, by the way, isn't a stimulant in the classic way. It gives no euphoria (as far as I know and also as far as I'm concerned) and it doesn't have the typical stimulant side effects. It just helps you feel more awake and maybe more focused. That's all it does.

It barely manages to fight drowsiness from opiates and I'm not on strong ones or big dosages. I wouldn't go taking it thinking it will keep you awake for days without sleep. It's not that strong at all IMO.
 
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I forgot: it's scheduled in the US. It's not here in the UK. If you're in the US you won't get it easily. I know someone who needed it there in the US (she'd been on it before the scheduling and it was the only thing helping with her lack of energy from depression) and her psychiatrist refused to prescribe it as it's scheduled. You'd have to be narcoleptic at least to have a chance I reckon. Shift work won't cut it with a serious doc.

Now, if your doc hands out controlled drugs like candies then it's a different matter of course.
 
My friendndad had narcolepsy they are good but don't take too many or you'll feel free weird and have a had comedown in normalmdoses it feels s bit euphoric more than caffeine but no jitters I can't really remember this period of my life tbh
 
I've used modafinil on and off for years, but not so much as a cognitive enhancer. I find it most effective when I really need to sleep, but can't due to lifes damn obligations. It's a much better wakefulness promoting agent than a nootropic IME, and with much less peripheral effects than propylhexedrine, ephedrine, pseudoephedrine or caffeine.
 
I honestly don't like it. My previous doctor prescribed it because he was "uncomfortable prescribing low dose Adderall" since I'm on low dose Klonopin, even though I'd been on both with no issue for years. Anyway, it wasn't covered by insurance so was really expensive which sucked right off the bat. When I got home I took one, expecting some much needed focus for some college math homework. Didn't do much. Took another one a little over an hour later, then they both hit me pretty hard (not really in a good way). I had been playing video games waiting for it to kick in so I could get started on my homework, but once it kicked in I was STUCK - literally fucking stuck - playing video games. I couldn't do anything else, I couldn't think about anything else, I mean it was a total one track mind thing. I'd had similar things happen with certain Amphetamines, especially while watching porn or sometimes mowing bitches down on Modern Warfare 2, but this was unlike anything else. I'd never NOT been able to stop doing something before no matter how much I wanted to. Then around another hour in I got some super bad dysphoria, probably equivalent to a really bad shroom or acid trip. I've heard some decent things about it from other people but I never took it again, still got the full bottle in my drawer. I think it's very dependent on individual body chemistry on how you react, so it's worth a shot. My only suggestion is don't take more than 200mg for your first time and make sure you're with someone incase you get bad dysphoria like I did. Good luck and stay safe! Let us know how it goes.
 
I’ve had some twice now, tiny dose, didn’t notice much. I’m not wanting to push it yet as I’m tapering off DHC, almost at the end of a (admittedly low dose) phenibut cold turkey. My minds all screwed up but I wanted something like this to hand when I start to seriously lower/stop the Dihydrocodeine. I’ve only got a few capsules so it’s all good. I thought of it like a cup of joe and just as jittery with me.
 
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