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modafinil (provigil) for ADD?
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Swimmingdancer
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Thanks, I hope it works out for you.
Maybe you already figured this out since your post is now gone, but just in case (hope it's ok if I respond anyway?) - Nuvigil is armodafinil whereas Vigil is modafinil. Armodafinil consists of just the R-enantiomer of the racemic drug modafinil. The general consensus seems to be that the only difference is you have to take slightly less armodafinil than modafinil, the assumption being that the R-entantiomer is just more active than the S-isomer (or the S-isomer may be totally inactive). Some people on Bluelight said they didn't notice a difference between the 2 drugs at all.
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Maybe you already figured this out since your post is now gone, but just in case (hope it's ok if I respond anyway?) - Nuvigil is armodafinil whereas Vigil is modafinil. Armodafinil consists of just the R-enantiomer of the racemic drug modafinil. The general consensus seems to be that the only difference is you have to take slightly less armodafinil than modafinil, the assumption being that the R-entantiomer is just more active than the S-isomer (or the S-isomer may be totally inactive). Some people on Bluelight said they didn't notice a difference between the 2 drugs at all.
A study:
Yeah I allready found the information I needed, but thanks anyways, of course 
I also read that in armodafinil may even have more side effects for some people, so I'm glad i ordered a modafinil-generic instead. Since like you said, minor differences in side-effects aside, the two work very similar.
I also read that in armodafinil may even have more side effects for some people, so I'm glad i ordered a modafinil-generic instead. Since like you said, minor differences in side-effects aside, the two work very similar.
Hey guys,
Hopefully I can shed some light on my experiences with modafinil. I was diagnosed 2 years ago with severe narcolepsy. I was prescribed Modaf - 50mg in the morning and slowly titrated it up to 300-400mg split into one morning and one afternoon dose. This drug seriously changed my life. Being a doctor I had to be switched on for 10-12 hrs at a time which was impossible with my narcolepsy. It's neurological disorders that affects the neurotransmitters that control ur sleep wake cycle. So you can be alert and then bam, the most irresistible urge to sleep that you will literally crawl on the floor to get 5 mins shut eye.
The Modaf is awesome for me. I take 200mg in the morning and within 15-20 mins I am 100 per cent focussed. Short term memory recall is heightened and dexterity improved. You can go a million miles an hour doing mundane paper work without even realising. There is hardly any dex/speed like symptoms (jitters etc) as it's not amphetamine based. The only downfall I get is if I take my 200mg lunch time dose too late ill be up till 2-3 in the morning due to its 12 hr half life or thereabouts. I have experimented with dex after my doctor suggested it but they were like tic tacs to me and I could easily have had a long nap after taking 15-20mg. I guess my brain is wired differently to most people. I am from Australia and therefore Modaf is publically funded and only costs <snip> for 100 tablets. If u want any other info let me know.
Hopefully I can shed some light on my experiences with modafinil. I was diagnosed 2 years ago with severe narcolepsy. I was prescribed Modaf - 50mg in the morning and slowly titrated it up to 300-400mg split into one morning and one afternoon dose. This drug seriously changed my life. Being a doctor I had to be switched on for 10-12 hrs at a time which was impossible with my narcolepsy. It's neurological disorders that affects the neurotransmitters that control ur sleep wake cycle. So you can be alert and then bam, the most irresistible urge to sleep that you will literally crawl on the floor to get 5 mins shut eye.
The Modaf is awesome for me. I take 200mg in the morning and within 15-20 mins I am 100 per cent focussed. Short term memory recall is heightened and dexterity improved. You can go a million miles an hour doing mundane paper work without even realising. There is hardly any dex/speed like symptoms (jitters etc) as it's not amphetamine based. The only downfall I get is if I take my 200mg lunch time dose too late ill be up till 2-3 in the morning due to its 12 hr half life or thereabouts. I have experimented with dex after my doctor suggested it but they were like tic tacs to me and I could easily have had a long nap after taking 15-20mg. I guess my brain is wired differently to most people. I am from Australia and therefore Modaf is publically funded and only costs <snip> for 100 tablets. If u want any other info let me know.
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Wow, that sounds great, Sheffdog!
Yeah, it's pretty much the same with (dex)amphetamine for me... And even though I probably don't have a case of narcolepsy as severe as yours, I pretty certainly have a sleeping disorder. Like I said before, that will be tested as soon as I get the pre-diagnostics done in march.
As for your brain being wired differently - I guess I can somewhat relate to that, since neitehr mph nor ampetamines have really helped my daytime-sleepiness and my ability to focus.
And oh boy, you are really lucky with a healthcare-system that publically founds modafinil, that surely ain't the case in most other countries!
However, since I just ordered Modalert (Modafinil Generic), and this stuff is at least somewhat affordable, I will first try how that helps me. If I really have a sleep-disorder though, and german-healthcare refuses to pay for modafinil, I actually might have some questions at some point later ... :D
But that will be in a few months at the earliest, for now thank you very much for these great informations!
Yeah, it's pretty much the same with (dex)amphetamine for me... And even though I probably don't have a case of narcolepsy as severe as yours, I pretty certainly have a sleeping disorder. Like I said before, that will be tested as soon as I get the pre-diagnostics done in march.
As for your brain being wired differently - I guess I can somewhat relate to that, since neitehr mph nor ampetamines have really helped my daytime-sleepiness and my ability to focus.
And oh boy, you are really lucky with a healthcare-system that publically founds modafinil, that surely ain't the case in most other countries!
However, since I just ordered Modalert (Modafinil Generic), and this stuff is at least somewhat affordable, I will first try how that helps me. If I really have a sleep-disorder though, and german-healthcare refuses to pay for modafinil, I actually might have some questions at some point later ... :D
But that will be in a few months at the earliest, for now thank you very much for these great informations!
Update:
My Modalert 200 finally arrived today. As I mentioned before, it's a generic from sun-pharma. While I've read some comments on forums, claiming that it's not quite as potent as the real brand modafinil, it should provide a noticeable effect.
Since I 've been on DL-Amphetmamine (up to 25mg/day) for the last two days, and took my last serving of it this morning, I'm gonna whait till 17:00 and start with a small dose of 75mg Modalert. This way there should be no complications, since there won't be much active dl-amphetamine left in my system.
If I notice a real beneficial effect from the Modalert, I'll write another update in the next days.
My Modalert 200 finally arrived today. As I mentioned before, it's a generic from sun-pharma. While I've read some comments on forums, claiming that it's not quite as potent as the real brand modafinil, it should provide a noticeable effect.
Since I 've been on DL-Amphetmamine (up to 25mg/day) for the last two days, and took my last serving of it this morning, I'm gonna whait till 17:00 and start with a small dose of 75mg Modalert. This way there should be no complications, since there won't be much active dl-amphetamine left in my system.
If I notice a real beneficial effect from the Modalert, I'll write another update in the next days.
I never understood the modafinil hate. I bought about 100 a few years ago and still have a few. I find it hard to believe that some people think coffee is better. Maybe if you've never had caffeine in your life! First time I tried it I took 200mg and was wired for 5+ hours. I didn't eat, drink or even smoke cigs. I just sat there studying and absorbing information.
I only really take small doses for important academic tests now because I waste so much damn time by getting sidetracked
I only really take small doses for important academic tests now because I waste so much damn time by getting sidetracked
Sounds good, chipfox. I've read mostly positive experience-reports regarding moda,too.
However, first dose of 100mg yesterday did pretty much nothing for me. Then again, I may still be on an amphetamine-comedown, since I pretty much quit the amphetamines cold-turkey yesterday. If that's the case, at least I feel way better and focussed than I normally would +5 days after quitting amphetamines....
Guess I'll just have to whait. Took 200mg today, I won't go any higher than that for the time being.
Also, I have been asking this in another thread, too - Can anyone suggest any supplementation with Modafinil? I mean like something neuroprotective or GABA increasing, since Modalert supposedly decreases GABA? Or is there no need for additional (neuroprotective) supplementation with Moda?
However, first dose of 100mg yesterday did pretty much nothing for me. Then again, I may still be on an amphetamine-comedown, since I pretty much quit the amphetamines cold-turkey yesterday. If that's the case, at least I feel way better and focussed than I normally would +5 days after quitting amphetamines....
Guess I'll just have to whait. Took 200mg today, I won't go any higher than that for the time being.
Also, I have been asking this in another thread, too - Can anyone suggest any supplementation with Modafinil? I mean like something neuroprotective or GABA increasing, since Modalert supposedly decreases GABA? Or is there no need for additional (neuroprotective) supplementation with Moda?
Well, little update:
So far Modalert is less effective than I had hoped. I am definetely more awake than without it, but I am neither more motivated nor do I feel much better.
As I said, this may be due to me just recently quitting DL-Amphetmamine and smoking, both of which might hinder the working mechanisms of Modalert.
I still think I feel way better than I usually would under ampehatmine-withdrawl, which I experienced a few times and which lasts about 5 days... But right now it's hard to judge, all I can say is that I do feel quite different, maybe it will take some getting used to...
Also I just remembered that I once read in a german ADD-Forum, that people with ADD might react somewhat paradox to modafinil, meaning 50mg may actually work better and enhance wakefullness more than 200mg. Guess I'll try some lower doses, too.
And by the way - next time I will order a Nuvigil -generic instead. While some claim that there's little to no difference, other reports say that it's superior (even though the latter do seem quite overexagurating - but I guess it can't hurt to try different things)
So far Modalert is less effective than I had hoped. I am definetely more awake than without it, but I am neither more motivated nor do I feel much better.
As I said, this may be due to me just recently quitting DL-Amphetmamine and smoking, both of which might hinder the working mechanisms of Modalert.
I still think I feel way better than I usually would under ampehatmine-withdrawl, which I experienced a few times and which lasts about 5 days... But right now it's hard to judge, all I can say is that I do feel quite different, maybe it will take some getting used to...
Also I just remembered that I once read in a german ADD-Forum, that people with ADD might react somewhat paradox to modafinil, meaning 50mg may actually work better and enhance wakefullness more than 200mg. Guess I'll try some lower doses, too.
And by the way - next time I will order a Nuvigil -generic instead. While some claim that there's little to no difference, other reports say that it's superior (even though the latter do seem quite overexagurating - but I guess it can't hurt to try different things)
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OP, I'm kind of in the same boat as you. I want to get off ADD medications and looking for alternatives. How are the lower doses working for you in regards to modafinil? Alos, how was your trial with Gotu Kola?
Well, it's funny that you ask, because lower doses (100mg max) actually do seem to work better. More makes me rather dull and unfocussed, it seems. My assumptions are hardly based on solid data though, since I've only been taking it for a few days. Also I still had some DL-Amph in my system when I started. Smoking is definetely bad - it doesn't make you feel like a jittery piece of shit, like it does when on amphetamines, but it definetely hinders the working mechanism of Moda and makes it even harder to enjoy the rather subtle shift in focus.
Dl-Amphetamine seems to increase negative effects too, I took a small dose of 5mg with moda, just to test. Also Moda started working better (or at all) only after a few days being off the DL-Amphetamines. Can't say if the same goes for Dexamphetamine though - but I guess I wouldn't want to try that combination anyways...
I'm also doing a daily journal, in which I write down the times of when I take moda, when I eat, if i drink coffee or smoke - and how much, and which supplements I take.
Just a few days of data here, like I said - but it seems that Gotu Kola and Vit-D add to the effet at least a little. I didn't notice anything from Gotu-Kola by itself by the way, but it seems like it could be a good complementary to Moda...?
Like I said, hard to judge the supplements. Guess I will leave a specific one out every other day, and also sometimes take none at all - that should make it easier to see if there are real benefits.
Oh, and for me coffee seems to add to the effect, but only up to 3 or 4 cups a day, then it gets worse. I read from a lot of people that coffee actually totally fucked up their stomachs when on "original" modafinil - maybe there's a difference in the generic formula that prevents this? I don't know.
Anyways, all in all I do prefer Moda even in the generic form to amphetamines and MPH at the moment. Just wish I had the real deal and no generic, though. I'm pretty sure that while it works, it definetely works less effective than real brand Modafinil - I can't actually draw the comparison, but it's allways been this way with generics for me...
But by all means - if one was looking for an alternative for add-meds, like I have been, I guess a try couldn't hurt...
Good thing is - practically no side-effects. Except a loss of healthy sleep, if taken too late in the day, that is :DOh, and something else:
Someone on a german drug forum (who apparantly knew his shit), explained to me that neuro protection isn't really required with Modafinil, at least not in the way it is with amphetamines. He said since it doesn't actually relase catecholamines and also doesn't create aggressiv radicals, there would be no need for that.
But as I allways say: Since I myself clearly don't know my shit when it comes to chemistry (I don't even know if phrased the above translation right 8)) - correct me if I'm wrong.
Someone on a german drug forum (who apparantly knew his shit), explained to me that neuro protection isn't really required with Modafinil, at least not in the way it is with amphetamines. He said since it doesn't actually relase catecholamines and also doesn't create aggressiv radicals, there would be no need for that.
But as I allways say: Since I myself clearly don't know my shit when it comes to chemistry (I don't even know if phrased the above translation right 8)) - correct me if I'm wrong.
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Update: After working a morning shift and trying to catch a few hours of sleep yesterday (which naturally didn't work) I spent the evening at a friends place, and as allways, while playing video games and watching movies a lot of drinking ensued.
Since I've been on Moda for the last couple of days, and also sometimes took it too late in the day, I had a modest lack of sleep. (4-5 hours/night max)
When I came from work, I really felt dull (even though not nearly as dull and empty as I did after too much sleep-loss when on amphetamines or MPH), and somewhat, well I guess "neutral" and "bored" would be the right words.
So I really thought hard about if I wanted to go at all, or just pause a day or two and get some rest. At this point (3:00 pm) I had allready taken 400mg, which has been the daily max untill then. Long story short - I did go, and also drank a lot, mainly for the purpose of testing the effect on Moda.
I took another 100mg (500 mg total) at 7:30pm and after a lot of drinking (and also smoking cigarettes, which I should really stop) ended up at 750mg total at 3:20 am.
While this may sound much, i definetely had a nice time, and neither alcohol nor cigarettes really hindered the experience. I just felt like I could drink more, meaning I had the positive effects alcohol has on these occasions anyways, but without getting tired or wasted. ( I drank Whiskey-Cola by the way, so add some caffeine to that mix, too)
The nicotine, as allways, definetely didn't help though - maybe if I hadn't smoked that day, 600mg total would have done...?
I didn't have a stronger effect from the higher daily dose by the way, it just lasted longer. I then got very tired at 4:00 am though, hit the couch and went straight to sleep - somewhat relieved that apparently my body's signals were still somewhat working.
Oddly enough, unlike the last couple of nights the sleep felt quite deep. I was quite relaxed when I woke up, which made me think that it had to be around 12am to 2pm - turned out, it actually was only 08:30 am, I had roughly slept four hours.
I got up allright, had no headache or severe hangover, packed my things and went home.
Naturally a few hours later I started feeling a little less good. It has definelety not been a productive day so far, I'm mainly hanging around, and also took a short nap. An hour ago I took another 100mg (which will be my last and only dose today) and do feel better now - even though I'm still making an rather unusual amount of typos while writing, and have to actively think about how to phrase my sentences more, too. So I'm pretty sure I've hit a temporary limit here. I won't take any more today (maybe tomorrow neither), get enough sleep tonight, and then maybe start again with low doses early next week. ( I can't help but think about the movie limitless and get a bit nervous :D)
However, this Modafinil really is the weirdest thing. I had almost as good a time as when I took MPH and drank in the past, minus the horrible fucked up feeling in the morning. It's also weird that I don't feel like I've been missing much sleep at all - staying awake this much on MPH or Amphetmaines is definetely possible too, but it immediatly backfires on you the very next day. If I hadn't known that i was on Moda yesterday evening, I probably wouldn't have noticed...
All in all, good to know it works on alcohol for me. Not gonna make this a regular thing, of course. But in the past, when I was out partying, I could't help but get tired rather soon when I drank alcohol. The MPH fixed this, but allways took it's toll. Also I had a habbit of taking too much MPH when drunk, and getting a little too high...
Final thought: I seem to be the exception in being able to consume alcohol and caffeine in rather large amounts when on Moda. I read many reports of people saying they got stomach issues from caffeine and slight vertigo from alcohol. Again - It would be interesting to know, if there's a difference in generic Modafinil (Modalert, which I am taking right now) and "real" brand Modafinil in that regard...
Since I've been on Moda for the last couple of days, and also sometimes took it too late in the day, I had a modest lack of sleep. (4-5 hours/night max)
When I came from work, I really felt dull (even though not nearly as dull and empty as I did after too much sleep-loss when on amphetamines or MPH), and somewhat, well I guess "neutral" and "bored" would be the right words.
So I really thought hard about if I wanted to go at all, or just pause a day or two and get some rest. At this point (3:00 pm) I had allready taken 400mg, which has been the daily max untill then. Long story short - I did go, and also drank a lot, mainly for the purpose of testing the effect on Moda.
I took another 100mg (500 mg total) at 7:30pm and after a lot of drinking (and also smoking cigarettes, which I should really stop) ended up at 750mg total at 3:20 am.
While this may sound much, i definetely had a nice time, and neither alcohol nor cigarettes really hindered the experience. I just felt like I could drink more, meaning I had the positive effects alcohol has on these occasions anyways, but without getting tired or wasted. ( I drank Whiskey-Cola by the way, so add some caffeine to that mix, too)
The nicotine, as allways, definetely didn't help though - maybe if I hadn't smoked that day, 600mg total would have done...?
I didn't have a stronger effect from the higher daily dose by the way, it just lasted longer. I then got very tired at 4:00 am though, hit the couch and went straight to sleep - somewhat relieved that apparently my body's signals were still somewhat working.
Oddly enough, unlike the last couple of nights the sleep felt quite deep. I was quite relaxed when I woke up, which made me think that it had to be around 12am to 2pm - turned out, it actually was only 08:30 am, I had roughly slept four hours.
I got up allright, had no headache or severe hangover, packed my things and went home.
Naturally a few hours later I started feeling a little less good. It has definelety not been a productive day so far, I'm mainly hanging around, and also took a short nap. An hour ago I took another 100mg (which will be my last and only dose today) and do feel better now - even though I'm still making an rather unusual amount of typos while writing, and have to actively think about how to phrase my sentences more, too. So I'm pretty sure I've hit a temporary limit here. I won't take any more today (maybe tomorrow neither), get enough sleep tonight, and then maybe start again with low doses early next week. ( I can't help but think about the movie limitless and get a bit nervous :D)
However, this Modafinil really is the weirdest thing. I had almost as good a time as when I took MPH and drank in the past, minus the horrible fucked up feeling in the morning. It's also weird that I don't feel like I've been missing much sleep at all - staying awake this much on MPH or Amphetmaines is definetely possible too, but it immediatly backfires on you the very next day. If I hadn't known that i was on Moda yesterday evening, I probably wouldn't have noticed...
All in all, good to know it works on alcohol for me. Not gonna make this a regular thing, of course. But in the past, when I was out partying, I could't help but get tired rather soon when I drank alcohol. The MPH fixed this, but allways took it's toll. Also I had a habbit of taking too much MPH when drunk, and getting a little too high...
Final thought: I seem to be the exception in being able to consume alcohol and caffeine in rather large amounts when on Moda. I read many reports of people saying they got stomach issues from caffeine and slight vertigo from alcohol. Again - It would be interesting to know, if there's a difference in generic Modafinil (Modalert, which I am taking right now) and "real" brand Modafinil in that regard...
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Update:
Well, over the last couple of days Modalert has been hit or miss for me. Doses of 50 mg seem to work quite ok. I don't necessary feel "alert" or "hyperfocussed", but my mood is a little better throughout the day, and I seem to get less mental fatigue. This is in combination with caffeine though, and only if I don't smoke, so it might as well be these factors alone...?
If I take more than 50mg for single doses, it has rather cloudy effects, so I actually do seem to react quite paradox to it (if at all, that is).
Anyways, conscidering the price point, which is quite high even in its generic form, and the fact that most people don't advice long-term daily use, I decided to discontinue Modalert soon.
Also, even if I should get the "real brand" Modafinil prescribed once, I have no chance of getting it covered by health insurance in the long run, so what's the point of possibly becoming dependant on a substance you can't afford anyways? Out of desperation I had allready ordered a Nuvigil-generic when this decision was made though, but as of now I have little hope that it will work much better... Also I'm planing to try something else entirely now...
I stumbled upon really great sounding "noopept" (racetam-like nootropic) thread yesterday and got totally lost in it - while people either make this shit sound way too good to be true, or have mixed to slim results from it, it does sound somewhat promising. Then again - so did Modafinil...
But when reading about the various racetams afterwards (Ampakines is a loose classification-term for these kind of nootropics, I think) and going through A LOT of experience-reports, this substance-class seems to be a lot more promising for what I have in mind alltogether. Also all of them are cheaper than Modafinil, some of them A LOT cheaper!
Problem is, there's quite a bunch of them (aniracetam, piracetam, pramiracetam, noopept etc), and while they seem to somewhat work alike for the most part, people tend to react very individually to each one.
I guess that can make it time-consuming to find the specific best one for oneself, but like I said - I will start with noopept and see what that does for me.
Anyways, after some excessive research yesterday I ordered some Noopept in Powder form from a mainly accepted reliable online-source.
The stuff is absoluteley legal in most countries, but practically not researched at all. Maybe I will try aniracetam, too, which is supposed to be comparable but at least a little better researched.
The noopept should arrive in a few days. I will give another update then about how and if it works (supposedly, effects may need a few days to weeks time to manifest though).
I guess after an initial heads up about the new stuff, I'll close this thread or at least open a new one, since I presumably won't have anything more to add to the whole Modafinil-topic after that....
While I was quite excited about my new findings yesterday, I feel kind of worn out today. Many of you may know this - all this trying out new substances and hoping each one will finally "do the trick" regarding one's condition really can take it's toll, and takes months of time. Plus I allways feel kind of in a "stagnant-mode" before being able to test a new substance, meaning I keep it low and don't get much shit done. Anyways, I'll give you a heads up in a few days.
Take care y'all!
Well, over the last couple of days Modalert has been hit or miss for me. Doses of 50 mg seem to work quite ok. I don't necessary feel "alert" or "hyperfocussed", but my mood is a little better throughout the day, and I seem to get less mental fatigue. This is in combination with caffeine though, and only if I don't smoke, so it might as well be these factors alone...?
If I take more than 50mg for single doses, it has rather cloudy effects, so I actually do seem to react quite paradox to it (if at all, that is).
Anyways, conscidering the price point, which is quite high even in its generic form, and the fact that most people don't advice long-term daily use, I decided to discontinue Modalert soon.
Also, even if I should get the "real brand" Modafinil prescribed once, I have no chance of getting it covered by health insurance in the long run, so what's the point of possibly becoming dependant on a substance you can't afford anyways? Out of desperation I had allready ordered a Nuvigil-generic when this decision was made though, but as of now I have little hope that it will work much better... Also I'm planing to try something else entirely now...
I stumbled upon really great sounding "noopept" (racetam-like nootropic) thread yesterday and got totally lost in it - while people either make this shit sound way too good to be true, or have mixed to slim results from it, it does sound somewhat promising. Then again - so did Modafinil...
But when reading about the various racetams afterwards (Ampakines is a loose classification-term for these kind of nootropics, I think) and going through A LOT of experience-reports, this substance-class seems to be a lot more promising for what I have in mind alltogether. Also all of them are cheaper than Modafinil, some of them A LOT cheaper!
Problem is, there's quite a bunch of them (aniracetam, piracetam, pramiracetam, noopept etc), and while they seem to somewhat work alike for the most part, people tend to react very individually to each one.
I guess that can make it time-consuming to find the specific best one for oneself, but like I said - I will start with noopept and see what that does for me.
Anyways, after some excessive research yesterday I ordered some Noopept in Powder form from a mainly accepted reliable online-source.
The stuff is absoluteley legal in most countries, but practically not researched at all. Maybe I will try aniracetam, too, which is supposed to be comparable but at least a little better researched.
The noopept should arrive in a few days. I will give another update then about how and if it works (supposedly, effects may need a few days to weeks time to manifest though).
I guess after an initial heads up about the new stuff, I'll close this thread or at least open a new one, since I presumably won't have anything more to add to the whole Modafinil-topic after that....
While I was quite excited about my new findings yesterday, I feel kind of worn out today. Many of you may know this - all this trying out new substances and hoping each one will finally "do the trick" regarding one's condition really can take it's toll, and takes months of time. Plus I allways feel kind of in a "stagnant-mode" before being able to test a new substance, meaning I keep it low and don't get much shit done. Anyways, I'll give you a heads up in a few days.
Take care y'all!
whitedevil661
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Modaf works. There is a reason it is on the Olympic banned substances list. Just because it doesnt give a high or buzz like amphetamines doesn't mean it isnt' powerfull. I would not use more than 100mg/day taken in the morning, possibly with caffeine as it is not a stimulant (modaf). I did this for a year in college when I stopped the adderall and had great results.
First of - thanks for the information and sharing your experience!
I never said it didn't work though. And I am well aware that it's not supposed to give me a buzz. What I meant was just that it didn't work for me in an effective enough way against my symptoms that justifies the cost (price) at the moment. And like I said - I cant stress enough that my experiences and opinions above are beased on MODALERT, which is an indian generic of Modafinil which costs about a fith the price and of which many say that it may be at least somewhat weaker than the "real" modafinil - Maybe hence the comparably higher doses? Can't say for sure.
Like I said, I read somewhere (may provide the source later) that this difference in effectiveness may be due to patency issues regarding the overall formula... But I digress...
Even the Modalert works for me to a certain degree though, and you are right about the coffe-point as well - it does help in the motivation regard. And Modalert is definetely working better for me than amphetamines or just taking nothing.
Long story short - if I do get diagnosed with an actual sleep-disorder which justifies the long-term use of "real" modafinil (as in health insurance covers the horrendous costs for me) - I will definetely try the real deal! I would be stupid not to. And I have a feeling it might work a lot better for me than Modalert. But I will get this diagnose in April at the eraliest.
And I'm not going to continue to use this generic which only somewhat helps me by means of "self-medication" and that I can't tell my doctors about till then - that is all I meant to say.
One question, if I may: Did you go back to Adderall after that year? Cause I couldn't imagine going back to Amphetamines now that I realize there are other medications that help you stay awake without giving you this weird, buzzy, amped-up feeling...
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