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Mind control.

mydrugbuddy

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Do you feel that drugs control the workings of your mind, or that you control the drugs ?

It really struck me last night, Id been building walls in my mind with benzos all week. But just a few tokes of cannabababananoids last night and the wall is breached and all the supressed thoughts come flooding through.

I wonder what is going on biologically/chemically to make this happen. Its quite beyond me to understand. Perhaps someone can explain.

Dunno if this should have just gone in Gibberings or if its worthy of a thread.
 
Benzodiazepenes "decrease the excitability of neurons" (quote from wiki). To recall a memory, you need to excite some neurons. So the more benzos you take, the less likely you will recall a memory (or set down a new memory, or have any kind of thought).

Cannabinoids have more complex mode of action, both relaxing and inducing psychedelic effects. Psychedelic effects occur by exciting neurons. So without knowing any of the detail I'd guess that one of the effects of the cannabinoids you've been taking is to excite or make excitable some of the neurons which had their excitablity reduced by the benzos.

To answer your first question, the answer is both, I control the administration of the drugs, and then the drugs alter the workings of my mind ;)
 
Nom down enough drugs, and there won't be bad memories to remember. If you can't recall, never happened....

It's proactive!
 
Always remember a line in Albert Goldmans immortal biography of Elvis where he says:

"The key moment in any mans drug history is not when he starts taking drugs it is when the drugs start taking him" :)
 
I think it can be said that drugs 'modulate,' and in that sense control our neurophysiology, but we have some control over the way in which their effects are expressed into our experience of them, much as we have some control over our thoughts and emotions when sober. At heroic psychedelic doses, it's pretty obvious that we have more limited control than at moderate ones... Like the best questions, it has many answers!
 
Do you feel that drugs control the workings of your mind, or that you control the drugs ?

It really struck me last night, Id been building walls in my mind with benzos all week. But just a few tokes of cannabababananoids last night and the wall is breached and all the supressed thoughts come flooding through.

I wonder what is going on biologically/chemically to make this happen. Its quite beyond me to understand. Perhaps someone can explain.

Dunno if this should have just gone in Gibberings or if its worthy of a thread.

For the love of all things goodly stop listening to Pink Floyd ;)
 
Lol, not sure if that was a joke or a very perceptive remark.

The Wall made such an impression on me listening to that for the first time whilst simultaneously taking mushrooms for the first time. Im sure trippers and Floyd fans would understand that. Parts of it must still be in my subconscious. Fortunately i have benzos sos i no longer drive myself round the twist with obtrusive and unwelcome thoughts popping up into my mind one after the other. Before benzos i was paying more attention to what was going on in my mind, that what was going on in the outside world. That was fucked up.

With nothing but bluelight and the thoughts in my own head to keep me company most of the time its also fortunate that benzos generally make my mind a more chilled and pleasant place.
 
Your brain is like a magic 8 ball. Sometimes you shake it and get the answer you want, sometimes you get an answer you don't. Other times you shake it too hard and it leaks out and you end up looking like you have pissed your pants.

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William S. Burroughs said:
Consider a control situation: ten people in a lifeboat. two armed self-appointed leaders force the other eight to do the rowing while they dispose of the food and water, keeping most of it for themselves an doling out only enough to keep the other eight rowing.

The two leaders now need to exercise control to maintain an advantageous position which they could not hold without it. Here the method of control is force – the possession of guns. Decontrol would be accomplished by overpowering the leaders and taking their guns. This effected, it would be advantageous to kill them at once. So once embarked on a policy of control, the leaders must continue the policy as a matter of self-preservation. Who, then, needs to control others but those who protect by such control a position of relative advantage? Why do they need to exercise control? Because they would soon lose this position and advantage and in many cases their lives as well, if they relinquished control. [...]

Extending the lifeboat analogy to the Ship of State, few existing governments could withstand a sudden, all-out attack by all their underprivileged citizens, and such an attack might well occur if the intentions of certain existing governments were unequivocally apparent. Suppose the lifeboat leaders had built a barricade and could withstand a concerted attack and kill all eight of the rowers if necessary. They would then have to do the rowing themselves and neither would be safe from the other. Similarly, a modern government armed with heavy weapons and prepared for attack could wipe out ninety-five percent of its citizens. But who would do the work, and who would protect them from the soldiers and technicians needed to make and man the weapons? Successful control means achieving a balance and avoiding a showdown where all-out force would be necessary. This is achieved through various techniques of psychological control, also balanced. The techniques of both force and psychological control are constantly improved and refined, and yet worldwide dissent has never been so widespread or so dangerous to the present controllers.

Any better?
 
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