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Benzos Midazolam IV dosage question

Chris84

Chris84

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I have just acquired some 3ml Midazolam ampules, with 15mg in each one. How much stronger is Midazolam done orally to injecting? I just tried 5cc's, so 2.5mg and it was nice, but I still felt I could of done more, I just wanted to know if that's a good idea or not, or if there's a certain amount of time I need to wait between shots? Also I am on MMT and know it's dangerous to mix opiates with benzos, which is why I always start small. I have been doing GBL whilst on MMT and as long as I didn't go above 1ml at a time I never felt like I was even close to suppressing my breathing too much, which is why I think I should be OK mixing small amounts of Midazolam with my methadone, but I don't want to risk overdosing. So if anyone has tried Midazolam IV could you let me know what doses I should be doing and how long should I leave between each shot. Thanks.
 
Without going into details, a year or so ago I was getting my hands on a lot of 5ml/5mg midazolam vials....holy fuking shit...

IV midazolam is like nothing else, it is the absolute epitome of 'stupifying'....I was opiate dependent at the time and I nearly overdosed over a dozen times in a couple of months...plus a couple of blue-faced overdoses that I wouln't have survived if I did not have a friend and naloxone on hand.

It's not so much the strength either...the oral bioavailability of midazolam is aound 30%, IV is 99%...so it is much stronger shot up...but the danger is in the EXTREME disinhibition and you're pretty much guarenteed to black out- and if you're anything like me there's a high likelihood of you blacking out and then compulsively redosing (generally making a terrible mess of your veins). I intended to shoot 12mg (the vials were all a 1ml/1mg over, so 2 vials) , I blacked out and ended up shooting 150mg (3 boxes/30 vials) and you know, dying for a little bit on my bathroom floor.

So I'm not just being one of those 'never mix methadone with benzos' kiddies, if you're on MMT you probably will know your limits well enough to be able to be safe...midazolam doesn't necessarily let you do that. It's used for anesthetic induction (to relax/render your unconscious and amnesiac so they can operate on you without you remembering anything- even if they fuck up and your wake up on the table, you won't remember it...seriously), so it's just so much more unpredictable when you're shooting it. It's not so much a specific risk, it's just shooting midazolam often leads to compulsive redosing and compulsively redosing extremely powerful sedatives in combination with methadone seems like a disaster waiting in the wings.

Really, I can't emphasise just how fucking powerful IV midazolam is. The rush is amazing, the effects are so fucking heavy, the amnesia is so fucking complete and you're left with no-zip-none-nada inhibitions. Even shooting an equivilant dose of diazepam with your 'done would, in my opinion, be safer than shooting midazolam. The line between the absolutely perfect god-nod and blacking out, shooting 30 vials over around 6 hours and having to suffer through the precipitated withdrawal from naloxone is just so fucking fine. When I took 30 vials and overdosed my girlfriend shot me up with naloxone and flumezil (the benzo antidote)...flumezil makes you feel like shit and can cause seizures. Overdosing...even if you're fine (all things considered), it still fucking sucks.

Please be safe...that 3 month period where I went through over 15 boxes of vials was so fucked...I'm so lucky that I'm not dead- cos that's all that it was, a little bit of forward planning (got diverted naloxone & flumezil too) and several imperial fuck tonnes of luck.
 
So far tonight I think I've done 6 shots spread over 6 hours or more. The first few were around 2.5mg per shot, but the last few were around 5mg, whatever the doses tonight they never went higher than that. I've gone through 2 ampules and just started on the third. So I'm up to 30mg midazolam combined with my daily 30ml methadone for MMT. I hope this last shot isn't too much... but it's only got 5mg midazolam in it, so should just give me a good night's sleep...I hope.
 
I posted a similar post a month or 2 ago...Im also on mmt, I was able to a handle 1 cc 5 mg shot plus a 2.5 mg shot...was very nice
 
Well maybe that last 5mg shot was a tad too much, I woke up 4 hours or so later in exactly the same position where I shot up, not good! So will be a lot more careful in the future with this and try not to buy it too much, as so far it's been one of my favourite benzos and has a very good chance of getting me addicted. The high from it goes hand in hand with opiates and cannabis, soooo relaxing.
 
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