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Simply_, you're right that as long it's published somewhere, the Average Joe is going to see it as a reason to use the microwave.

attempt4, sorry to be hostile before. And sorry about your coffee! Heating water for coffee was what tuned me in to the difference in taste from one cooking method to the other--Could not imagine what would make the coffee taste so different and gross one day versus the other. Then it dawned on me that the people heating the water did so in different manners: One heated it on the stove, one heated it in the micro.
 
I dont like them, to me microwaved food tastes bad and boring especially vegetables. i am pretty sure I can tell in a restaurant what has been microwaved or what has been kept hot on the hub or in an oven.

however, I enjoy cooking and am good at it.I like to spend hours in the kitchen preparing kilos of organic roast beef cooked till perfect. if that wouldnt be like that maybe I would trust a microwave more. but it cant make a sunday roast so screw it. if i wanna coffee i make it on the oven in an old italian espresso maker-takes 20 mins for a cup. why? taste, try it.

ever tasted real gravy? like real real? made without instantpowder and foodchemist?

I think it definetly has no positive effects (improved vitamins, superpowers,a flying steak) on the food. so why bother?

I live in an environment of organic farming. we farm our meat : beef, pigs and ducks certified organic, bake organic bread and farm organic vegetables. its not a hippy commune by the way.

for me its the taste. this food tastes soooo fucking good. if the quality is better? I dont know, I dont get any superpowers from it....
 
I live in an environment of organic farming. we farm our meat : beef, pigs and ducks certified organic, bake organic bread and farm organic vegetables. its not a hippy commune by the way.
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Awesome dude. :) I like the sound of your world.

When you consider the difference in cooking instructions between microwave and conventional ovens (microwave on high power for seven minutes, versus heat in oven for 45 minutes at 375 degrees) its hard to imagine an oven being more efficient. Now-- the oven food is going to probably taste better, but I like having options
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This makes sense. Part of it depends on the lifestyle one is trying to live. I don't particularly like relying on electricity (we do have an electric stove that we use but we also have a gas powered camping stove and extra fuel ready for any power outages-the fuel actually lasts quite a long time). If I could I'd be cooking a lot of my stuff over an actual fire in a firepit. :)
 
lol @ the poster who is reheating his coffee but is "concerned about quality of their food". Reheated coffee is nasty no matter how its reheated-- there are too many chemicals in coffee (the drink) that oxidize too quickly to make reheating viable., unless you want to mask it with liberal amounts of cream and sugar. That's why you will never find "5 shots of espresso" on any good coffee shop's menu. By the tie you're half way done, it tastes like shit. Better to drink individuals or doubles, and have a second serving.
 
addictivepersona said:
attempt4, sorry to be hostile before.
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No need to apologise, yuo weren't really all that hostile tbh, you had a valid point and i apologise for the nonsensical and useless post. You should have just ignored it like everyone else does :D



Pander Bear said:
lol @ the poster who is reheating his coffee but is "concerned about quality of their food". Reheated coffee is nasty no matter how its reheated.
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I dont think you realise how infrequently I do this. You make me sound like an idiot there and I may be stupid, but im not that stupid :p

I could count on two hands how many times i've done this as i'm fully aware of the disgusting nature of it, it was only a thing I did a few times when i was on a comedown/hangover but forgot about the cup of coffee and couldnt be fucked making another.
I only drink the finest coffeebeans which i grind myself and steep in a caffetiere with boiled filterwater left to sit for 2 minutes. /coffee snob :D

It's all about the double espresso's, sometimes a dash of milk can compliment a good cup of java and I find milk somewhat softens the stimulant slap of a caffeine buzz but often I rather not ruin a perfectly good cup of coffee with milk and sugar. I cant even drink coffee much these days as when i was younger I seriously went overboard with it, using tablespoons and tablespoons and tablespoons for one cup (creating a tar-like, thick gloopy drink) but now even a small, weak cup will have my stomach churning with nerves and general jittery anxiety.

Back on topic: Microwaves are crap and I was shocked to recently discover how many "fine" restaurants just reheat frozen food in the micro, such as this nice restaurant near me which charges about 10 quid for a chicken burger and the smallest handful of chips but its just shitty re-heated nonsense.
 
I dont think you realise how infrequently I do this. You make me sound like an idiot there and I may be stupid, but im not that stupid
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Hey, I'm just telling you why this particular belief is stupid, not that you are stupid. A coffee snob should have at least some passing interest in what separates good coffee from bad coffee, that's all.
 
Yeah, coffee is for sure best fresh. I've never even tried reheating it on the stove. I have microwaved it before, and it isn't the best, but at the time I didn't care, I just needed my caff fix. :D
 
Coffee is disgusting reheated by whatever means used. I cringe when I see people do it.

I now do not have a microwave in my household. 90% of the time I also use the headset (corded, not Bluetooth) on my Blackberry as it's one of the more "potent" EMF-emitting devices on the market. I am actually replacing it with one that gives off about 1/3 less later this month. That isn't the full reason why, but with how often I use it... it gives off 1.54 W/kg when the US (FCC's) acceptable limit is 1.6! The fuck :(

Ratings from Cnet on cell phone radiation, updated Dec. 22, 2010

There is, of course, a lot of conflicting information, and I freely admit a lot of it is very tinfoily. That having been said, the things really have been around for ~50 years; just as with cell phones, not enough is known to say conclusively whether or not they are harmful. I choose not to use one.

I am nearly certain that EMF Sensitivity is an issue for a lot of people. Again, the tinfoil crowd is all over this one, but even when I was a child, I noticed things like microwaves and power lines would make me feel either overly excited or extremely tired. I am not the only one.

I have a (very tinfoily but probably genuinely EMF-sensitive; may also be psychosomatic) friend with an EMF detector. I'll ask him if I can borrow it and report back in the next few weeks. It won't be a scientific experiment by any means, but I will be driving/working off-site/everyday socializing quite a bit over the next 2 weeks - also I will be flying twice in the next 3 weeks, so if the TSA lets me on the plane with it, and it wouldn't fuck up the navigation equipment (I will ask a pilot directly), I'll see what it actually says and keep a chart. hobhead, you are correct that one is exposed to radiation on a flight. That's also the same argument the TSA uses to subject people to the backscatter/mmwave privacy invasion. They are welcome to pat me down if I am selected for additional screening. I damned sure will never walk into one of *those* things.

Enki - the cataracts thing - is this limited to restaurant employees/professional chefs? In many, if not most, restaurants, the microwave is at head/eye level for the people who operate it. Could explain a repeated exposure hypothesis.
 
^ Mariposa, thank you for the information! Even if it is tinfoily. :P

Keep us updated on your experiment with the EMF detector.

Glad to hear I'm not alone in not using a microwave!
 
PB said:
It can be much more energy-efficient than a traditional full-size oven when it comes to cooking food.
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I'm not surprised, as heating via a traditional full-sized oven is the least efficient means by which we cook.

Simply Live said:
Right, but as long as it is published in a journal like that, it is enough for the average reader to say "oh, using a microwave is more cost-efficient.
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Scientific American is a general audience publication, not an academic journal.

ebola
 
Mariposa said:
I am nearly certain that EMF Sensitivity is an issue for a lot of people.
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According to what evidence are you nearly certain?

In many, if not most, restaurants, the microwave is at head/eye level for the people who operate it. Could explain a repeated exposure hypothesis.
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What is your proposed mechanism through which damage would occur?

ebola
 
Mariposa said:
Enki - the cataracts thing - is this limited to restaurant employees/professional chefs? In many, if not most, restaurants, the microwave is at head/eye level for the people who operate it. Could explain a repeated exposure hypothesis.
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I've been scanning for an actual case of cataracts known to be caused by a microwave oven and it is looking like it has to be categorized as a theoretical risk. Cops have sued for cataracts believed to have been caused by radar guns used to catch speeders but I'm not sure that definitive causality was established in any of those cases. I do still tell little kids to not stick their face in a microwave window. It may not hurt them but older microwaves may well have lost some of their shielding. There are a few pubmed abstracts about how it is that microwaves contribute to cataracts but they aren't about microwave ovens but microwave radiation and I think they had in mind more radar and microwave relay techs who can much bigger exposure.
 
microwaves:good or bad?

i know that microwaving food is bad but what about microwaving just plain water?
i like to drink alot of tea but it takes 2x as long to boil the water.

i googled it but couldnt find any legit evidence stating that microwaving water is bad. i just wanna make sure its safe...

thanks BL8)
 
There's nothing especially bad about microwaving food, except you can't crisp things in the microwave and it destroys vitamin B12 (generally present in meat which doesn't cook well in the microwave anyway, I mean you wouldn't microwave a steak because it wouldn't develop the flavour and texture).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven#Effects_on_food_and_nutrients

Where are you getting your views on microwaving?

There is NOTHING (healthwise) wrong with microwaving water...

And microwaving veggies is MUCH better than boiling, as boiling will leach out the vitamins, while microwaving retains them.
 
knockando said:
There's nothing especially bad about microwaving food, except you can't crisp things in the microwave and it destroys vitamin B12 (generally present in meat which doesn't cook well in the microwave anyway, I mean you wouldn't microwave a steak because it wouldn't develop the flavour and texture).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven#Effects_on_food_and_nutrients

Where are you getting your views on microwaving?

There is NOTHING (healthwise) wrong with microwaving water...

And microwaving veggies is MUCH better than boiling, as boiling will leach out the vitamins, while microwaving retains them.
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hmm alright thanks:D SUCH a relief;)
 
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