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Using them is not enjoyable at all. Only if you enjoy being completely intoxicated and having the feeling of being hit by a truck. It feels dirty and dysphoric. What do you expect from a drug that shuts down an array of receptors.

Some people just wanna get fucked up for the sake of it. That's why there are reports of inmates in prisons using it recreationally.
 
Lucky you Bodda :P wish I could shift mine.

baoozs, Yeah I think inmates only use it 'cause it's so hard to get prescribed anything vaguely recreational in a prison setting, particularly addictive drugs like benzos.
Sometimes the hours pass more quickly if you're in a constant quetiapine coma..
 
If I took a quetiapine tablet (not sure of dosage) what could i expect......deep sleep ive heard........what else?
 
There are 25, 50, 100, 150, and 200 milligrams tablets. So the dosage is gonna be an important factor in determining what you're gonna feel.

If it's on the high end of the spectrum, probably feel like you've been hit by a train. You'll be knocked out for a good 12-20 hours.

Low end of the spectrum, you'll feel like an extremely sleepy zombie. No emotions, no thoughts, no character. Empty. When many of the receptors that are responsible for dictating your personality are shut down, that's the result.

When you wake up you'll be groggy as fuck. That pretty much sums it up.
 
Strangely, lower doses are more groggy than higher, to a certain extent. A very basic description of quetiapine's action on the brain:

25mg - 50mg: has the effect of a very potent antihistamine (blocking H1 receptors) which accounts for the sleepiness.
50 - 200mg: will block both H1 and begin to bind to some serotonin receptors.
200mg and higher: it begins to act as an antipsychotic, acting on H1, dopamine (blocking D2 receptors), serotonin as well as a few others.

Having tried doses ranging from 50mg to 600mg , I'd say subjectively that 100-150mg is the "knockout" dose. After about 150mg there's no noticeable difference, perhaps even slightly less drowsiness, so you'd be wasting your time. As baooozs said you'll just be groggy as fuck. First time user, you'll probably only need 50mg to knock you out for 10 hours ...

Interesting page on quetiapine http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/07/the_most_important_article_on.html

Not recommended if you like FEELING anything and having a personality >< though it does help many people who are seriously ill.
 
Sammy G said:
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? If the meds aren't having an adverse effect yet you feel you need substances to get 'super horny' then maybe it's worth looking at the possibility of there being an underlying problem? I know that in the past depression has ruined my sex drive to the extent it's affected relationships.

Or maybe you should just buy some shonky viagra? I don't know.
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Hi sammy i'm 26 and the only thing is it takes me longer to reach orgasm but that's not a bad thing as I used to get premature ejaculation problems. I just always get "over the top horny" on stimulants which is why I like them, along with the high. All I can concentrate on is sex and I can be with someone or watch porn all night and not orgasm. It's that over intrest in sex that I love.
 
baooozs said:
The only thing leaving you groggy and causing your other issue is the quetiapine. I hope you're not taking it as a mood-stabilizer, or any of the other factitious indications astrazeneca have managed to get approval for. It's a dirty drug that causes serious long term health risks and my advice to you is unless you have psychotic or schizoaffective symptoms to ask your doctor be taken off it. There are many other alternatives.
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I orginally got put on it 2009 for my OCD, which the psychiatrist said it was a none addictive anti anxiety drug. The most I've been prescribed is 100mg, the doc said it was a mood stabiliser at an appointment I had. They only seem to be good for getting me to sleep. I also get diazepam which doesn't really effect me that much now. What are the long term risks with this drug and are they serious?
 
Google 'quietapine risks' - there re a whole host of possible nasty side effects, though the risk is relatively small when it comes to the more severe ones (tardive dyskenesia, neuroleptic malignant syndrome, hepatitis - even sudden death). It's not a drug I'd like to be on, put it that way! Certainly not for anxiety. It's not unheard of for people to be precribed it for those purposes though, it seems.

As for its efficacy (or otherwise) as a mood stabiliser, I take a mood stabiliser (lithium) for bipolar, and quietapine has never even been mentioned as a possible treatment. So make of that what you will.
 
I like the no emotion feeling it gives as well just nothing bothers me, constantly spaced out feeling. I am going through a hard time and was only on 75mg but I asked my doc to up it to 100mg for sleep. As for a mood stabiliser I don't feel depressed, don't feel happy just nothing. Yeah I heard of the tardive
dyskenesia but sudden death! I think I might do a bit more research into this
 
Tbh bodda i can actualy still work all day everyday though i shouldnt as im signed off but aslong as i get my 8th of gear a day im sorted gram from brekkie in the pin when i get up, gram for lunch, gram after my tea and a cheeky half g just before bed, missus does exactly the same minus the gabas, seroquel and codeine! Dunno how we do it like! Anyway thats me finished work fpr the day another 100 sheets in my sky rocket now to go meet my boy :)
 
I imagine sudden death is extremely rare, but it's reported. It's scary to think that stuff is prescribed for people who don't really need an antipsychotic.
 
jungo87 said:
I orginally got put on it 2009 for my OCD, which the psychiatrist said it was a none addictive anti anxiety drug. The most I've been prescribed is 100mg, the doc said it was a mood stabiliser at an appointment I had. They only seem to be good for getting me to sleep. I also get diazepam which doesn't really effect me that much now. What are the long term risks with this drug and are they serious?
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Matabolic and cardiovascular disorders which can lead to myocardial infarction. Hyperprolactinemia which can cause sexual dysfunction and infertility. Loss of brain tissue. Diabetes.

Thousands of deaths are associated each year with these drugs. It's simply criminal to prescribe them for any disorder outside of controlling the positive symptoms of schizophrenia. Bring this up to your physician next time you see them. Confront them and ask them why they would prescribe a class of drugs which can pose a serious risk to your health. If you don't get a decent response, chances are your doctor has ulterior motives for prescribing them, or is just that fucking stupid to be swayed by a sleazy pharma rep.
 
Brap said:
Not recommended if you like FEELING anything and having a personality
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I used to wonder when I spoke of using them for "fun" why people would look at me like I was mad, but as baooozs said it is mainly done in jail as they really do just fuck you up. Like I posted before in this thread when I use them I find it hard to even think & them speak the words on my mind.
I know that isn't to everybody's taste but some days I get so low & depressed I find to take some of them stops me from thinking about suicide or other things like that.
I remember my first time trying them when the ex gave me some as I couldn't sleep, she only gave me such a small bit of a 200mg, must have been about 50mg at the max, I laughed at her but I learned a savage lesson when it kicked in & I had a issue even thinking let alone walking.

I am NOT saying they are fine for recreational use at all, I would NOT give them to someone to use like how people have "fun" with Benzo's etc, I knew they are a really heavy medicine but when I first got into them I wasn't aware of how heavy they are.
The ex used to have very savage mental issues & was given them to help deal with the issues she had, tbh & I am NOT joking here, on reading this I have had a really hard think about what I am doing with them & really am, 100% truth giving it a 2nd, 3rd & 4th rethink about my recreational, hedonistic "abuse" of them.

It's not a regular thing for me to have a hard think on the damage I may be doing to myself, but this had really opened my mind upto what the hell I am really doing.

A huge thanks to everyone that posted in here, Sammy G, jungo87, baooozs etc.
 
I get what you're saying. Sometimes it's better to be numb than suicidal. If that's the case though you should probably try and find a medical regimen that would halt any suicidal feelings. You're not a chronic user though so I doubt you'd face any problems.

If you see schizophrenics though who have been using them for years, you'll see the massive cognitive decline they have, acne, obesity, tremors, and diabetes just to name a few.
 
my experience of quetiapine was a positive one. 14yrs of different concoction brought me to a quetiapine 100mg/Valdoxan 50mg per day prescription. i have major depressive disorder, borderline personality disorder & severe AADD. quetiapine was my saviour. it cleared my foggy head, enabled me to think without fretting and ability to sleep!!! it was the debilitating symptoms of ADHD as a child that spurred onset of depression. am stable "for now" after 3yrs i am not on these. i am now on 60mg Methylphenidate and OMG its a BLESSING. I take half the dose and snort the rest after work. Im a happy bunny x
 
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