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Methylone (Methyl-1 /MDMCat) -- first time -- Afterglow Tranquillity

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Methyl-1 (MDMCat) --- first time --- Afterglow Tranquillity

Methylone (2-methylamino-1-[3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl]propan-1-one)
Also known as Methylenedioxy-methcathinone (MDMCat).

I call it Methyl-1 for short.

Ate 100mg. It had a bitter chemical taste that reminded me a lot of the 2C-I I got from the same source. Not the strong bitterness I’m used to from MDMA pills.

(T+0:10) I think I’m feeling a little bit intoxicated. Am I imagining it? It’s only been 10mins.

(T+0:30) Now I’m sure that I’m feeling some effects. I feel some slight intoxication. Not too sure what it is yet. I walk into a well lit room and I realise I have clear sharp vision like I’m used to on MDMA. My head feels a bit “spacey”. I am slightly dazed/confused. For some reason looking around the room seems a little more difficult to make sense of than normal. It is pleasant and fun intoxication though. This feels like a different intoxication to MDMA or MDE or MDA. This is quite a fun kind of stupefied state of mind (although too mild at this dose). I don’t feel dazed & confused on the come up of MDMA like I feel here. Although I’m not thinking much, this is not the meaningless happy/drunk state of MDE. I feel more centred than normal. I feel empathy towards everyone especially myself. Like weak MDMA. I feel like I don’t want to harm anyone, or get in anyone’s way, I have no tendencies for aggression or hate.

I have fun dancing. It’s definitely a good DJ line-up and a cool club. Something strange starts to bother me though. I seem to get some mild euphoria and it goes and then get mild disphoria. I’m not sure why some of the intoxication seems to come and go. Sometimes I think I feel a bit dizzy which is fun. Thinking this is like MDMA I figure maybe I just need to relax and let myself get into the drug state and it will be just be relaxed an fun from then on. So I try but I can’t really relax. This is not a smooth ride. Even a half an MDMA pill might give me some disphoria or depression on the come-up but then once I relaxed I’d be happy and clean sailing after that. Not the case here. I still feel up and down and effects come and go.

I have been feeling pretty down and worried lately. I am really aware now that I’ve been troubled with really low self esteem for the last weeks/months and now I’m faced with it. I do a fair bit of walking around between dance arenas. I can’t really relax. I dance for a bit. I sit down for a bit, I don’t know if I should try talking to the person next to me.. I get up to dance again. I don’t know which music arena is better. I go from one to the other. I feel that I’m constantly getting split two ways with the decisions that I’m faced with. No mater which I choose I don’t seem to really enjoy it or just be able to relax. Aaargh… I hope this is gone on a higher dose…

One of the best things I notice early on however is the empathy feeling on this. It is not lacking like MDE or just mild like MDA. I feel very honest with myself. I can look at myself clearly. I have a lot more love and respect for myself. Everything I think, say or do seems to come from a good place in my heart, kind, caring, honest. It reminds me exactly of the magical feeling of empathy I love so much on MDMA. I also have a heightened sensation of touch which feels nice, like when on MDMA.

I now feel different in my personality. I feel “small” and like a child. Wow. What a familiar feeling. Brings back some special MDMA memories. The last time I remember this so clearly was on a really nice pill in Switzerland. This is a magical feeling of MDMA personality change I love. (Only this time its Methylone!) Let me explain this feeling… See lately I have been feeling no confidence in myself because my low self esteem (hating myself, how I look, feeling like crap because of how I think other people see me). Then the empathy feelings kick in. I start to see clearly again and realise I have been lied too and I have lied to myself. I see that I’m not so bad. I realise I need to love & respect myself just as much as everyone else. Now instead of feeling no self esteem and depressed, this changes and I just feel small. This I can handle. I feel like a child, who is starting out again, new. I feel shy. I don’t really know how to approach people, what to say how things are done. I don’t want to offend anybody or do anything hurtful or get in their way. I don’t have much confidence but I take small child like steps. I shyly start chatting to this person. I pay that person a compliment… ect. It’s good and I feel pretty relaxed too. I don’t need to be afraid of what others think anymore… If someone doesn’t want to chat much with me then no worries. I don’t need to feel bad.

(T+ 2:00 approx) I think of the drugs main effects have worn off. Strangely though I feel really quite relaxed. I feel like I’m in a state of tranquillity. Wow this is good… I feel really peaceful. This is like a good beautiful MDMA afterglow… Strange how when the drug was strongest I was feeling up/down. Now it’s a constant tranquil/peaceful feeling. I’m glowing! Feels nice to not be bothered or afraid by anything… So peaceful. I think part of my brain I usually use for loads of intellectual thinking is switched off because I find it a bit difficult to remember some things I need to while chatting… Good! I think to much. It’s good use more of the heart instead of head sometimes. I am enjoying dancing and smiling heaps…. I remember something I tried once on MDMA. I try to see how long I can put on a hard and serious face. Ha! I can’t! This is funny. The more I try to put on a serious face the bigger I smile… this is great. The DJ’s finish and I leave the venue. The rest of my night/morning is so peaceful and tranquil. I am happy later on to just sit and take it all in and chill out by myself near the park. I feel real nice. While I’m walking on my way some random travellers come up and stop me. They are a bit high on MDMA and stopped me just to give me a good chat. Unreal! I love chatting to randoms especially on nights like this when I’m alone. I am a traveller too and we have some cool things in common to chat about. Nice… That just topped off my night out.

(T+ 8:00) for the last few hours I have not been anxious at all. Definitely no bad comedown here! I’m still glowing on in my totally peaceful state of mind. I’ve gotten some food ect… I could sit and do nothing for ages and just appreciate the beauty around me if I wanted to… Great! I decide I am pretty tired after my night out. (I was tired before I went out). So I go to sleep. Wow nice sleep. Nice pleasant dreams. I awake and still feel a bodily feeling of tranquillity like there’s still something in my system, not to mention feeling really relaxed. I get up and I’m still afterglowing. Good times. I dig this! Reminds me of some of my first few experiences on MDMA.

Comments:
On MDMA, or MDE or MDA I feel more chatty. Not with this. I don’t really feel any more chatty than normal wich is dissapointing. I don’t get all overly happy either. No big MDMA high. Maybe its different at a higher dose?

I was quite dissapointed at the up/down feelings on this as well. The intoxicated state was much too mild and didn’t last, also annoying how it came and went and wasn’t constant. The disphoria was annoying too. I don’t feel that the experience ever really took off. Pity I had expected a mild but good experience somewhat like when I’ve taken half and MDMA pill. I have since read some more Methylone trip reports and it seems that this drug may become a “shadow material” at low doses. So it’s likely that if I had taken 175mg or so that the effects of this substance would probably have been quite different. Most likely a lot smoother and more enjoyable.
I don’t think I will do Methyl-1 on anything less than around 180-200mg next time. Hopefully that will launch it into a full experience.

I liked the peacefull glow I got on the comedown and also day after on this… I was surprised how easily I could sit cross legged and just take in everything around me in or meditate. This I really like, it’s such a good feeling. Normally when I am completely sober I am find it difficult and uncomfortable to sit and meditate or just chill out. The after glow feels slightly different than MDMA. I think the MDMA afterglow is more euphoric and more chatty. I think the Methyl-1 afterglow is more peaceful and relaxed (calm like a bomb!). Both feel very similar to me and both are very nice. Just from the way a small dose of Methylone left me feeling over the next day I can see why Tranquillity would be a name that fits well.

I am an explorer. I like to try new substances and to learn from them. Personally I have found MDMA to be the most meaningful, profound and beautiful substance I have tried. It fits very well with my personality. So far this little "teaser" of Methyl-1 that I tried reminded me of some of the amazing magic of MDMA. The empathy I really loved. And the amazing afterglow was so much like what I am used to on MDMA. This could well turn out to be (at a much higher dose) a substance that fits very well with me.
 
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Re: Methyl-1 (MDMCat) --- first time --- Afterglow Tranquillity

Ekstasis-//7 said:
So I try but I can’t really relax. This is not a smooth ride. Even a half an MDMA pill might give me some disphoria or depression on the comeup but then once I relaxed I’d be happy and clean sailing after that. Not the case here. I still feel up and down and effects come and go.

I have been feeling pretty down and worried lately. I am really aware now that I’ve been troubled with really low self esteem for the last weeks/months and now I’m faced with it. I do a fair bit of walking around between dance areans. I can’t really relax. I dance for a bit. I sit down for a bit, I don’t know if I should try talking to the person next to me.. I get up to dance again. I don’t know which music arena is better. I go from one to the other. I feel that I’m constantly getting split two ways with the descisions that I’m faced with. No mater which I choose I don’t seem to really enjoy it or just be able to relax.

I get this all the time, it's comforting to hear someone else comment similarly :) Awesome report!
 
100mgs of Methylone isn't enough for most people. 175mgs is more like it. I happen to find it to be an extremely worthwhile and recreational chemical. It is fully as beautiful as an MDMA high.
 
^the magic happens at 2.7 - 2.8 mg/kg...


Ekstasis-//7 or Mod please remove the picture, for obvious reasons.
 
Um... I'm sorry but for what obvious reasons?

I'm happy to remove the picture if I am breaking any guidelines. Just let me know.
 
Piper methysticum : Yep, I knew going into it that 100mg was quite low and that many people on BL had sayed they considered nothing less than around 175mg worthwhile. Also read Morninggloryseed say that he had a couple of nice mild experiences on 100mg and that he considered this the threshold dosage for the empathenogenic qualities.

I usually try to start low with a new substance I have no personal experience with just to be on the safe side. Also I like to get a feel for the nature of a substance's psychoactive properties at a lower dose. I find some substances facinating at lower doses because I can get a better understanding for how it starts to shift my consciousness where it is at the level that I can I go with it or resist it.

I had not yet read the the two erowid trip reports that suggested that at lower dosages methylone can become a "shadow material" and in the case of that particular trip reporter it become boring and invoked disphoria.

Some of my first few experiences on MDMA where just with taking half a pill. Most were very, very enjoyable, enlightening and profoundly meaningful. I expected a similar dose/response curve on Methl-1. Obviously I was wrong... Oh well at least now I know. I think if I get the chance to try this again I will probably not go any lower than 175mg.

Mean Girl: just wondering... you said you got similar things happening to you were you talking about on Methylone? If yes what does? Did you find at higher doses it is a smooth experience?
 
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originally posted by nanobrain
why not call it Methylone like everyone else does?

because to me the name sounds too similar to Methadone and has too many preconceived connotations in my mind of some shitty pharmaceutical, in fairly common use in the medical profession with little potential of producing any worthwhile experience.

I think that Methylenedioxy-Methcathinone is a fairly good name (or MDMCat or another abbreviation) because it shows the close chemical relation to Methylenedioxy-Methamphetamine (MDMA).

Sorry to make a point of it but you did ask...8)
 
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There is actually a brand name prescription drug that is called methylone. I'll be damned if I can find it now...googling it only gets info on the MDMA-beta-ketone. I also like using MDMC for that reason. Also works well with 'ethylone' in that it would be called MDEC. Ahh, but what would one call 'butylone' under this naming scheme?
 
nonobrain: No need to get abusive just tell me what guidelines I have broken ect. and I will be happy to comply.

The bag is labelled but what is wrong with that?. In the gallery section some other people have posted some very nice photos indeed that show a whole spread of research chemicals (both phenylethamines and tryptamines) in small glass bottles, all labelled and in larger quantities. Some of these users have also posted trip reports on these substances.

I think in regards to harm reduction having your containers labelled is a damn good idea. Eg. Have you read the Erowid trip report about the guy who swallowed 250mg of 2C-I becuase he got it mixed up with his Methylone powder?

morninggloryseed: Very interesting 'bout the prescription drug with the same name... and hey I wanted to call it MDMC as well but not having a very good knowledge of chem thought it might be vastly incorrect... So great... it's settled then I'll now call it MDMC!

ps. Could you please explain what is the "-beta-ketone" bit??
 
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A ketone is a carbonyl (carbon double-bonded to oxygen) group bonded to two carbon atoms. In methylone, this is located at the beta-carbon on the side-chain.
 
Thanks for explaining that...

^^speaking of such things, I found the molecular structure diagram of pseudoephedrine quite interesting. I think that little oxygen atom on the side chain looks a bit loose. Looks like it's itching to be fixed on to the chain a little better. ;)

...pitty doing so would have legal implications :p
 
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