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Methylone Megathread

Aye M1 literally did not have a buzz for me, the few times I tried it. Literally nothing from a 250mg dose, didn't feel fucked, no rushes, no tingles, no buzz, no euphoria, no difference in mindset or mood but even after 10 pints and 12hrs later I couldn't sleep. :|
 
For once i actually agree with you here Spade, even 400mg of methyone in one go gave me no real euphoria or empathy for some reason! I got the eye wobbles, chattery jaw... but absolutely nothing on MDMA and i honestly thought the mephedrone was better. The best is mixing 150mg of each in a cap. That blew me away for hours. But the methylone gives me a weird heartbeat after and leaves me feeling wired for hours afterwards, like one night me and a friend did 500mg each in two seperate doses about 1.5-2hrs apart, i still couldnt sleep even 6hours after the last dose! I would like to try it again from another vendor maybe, but I wouldnt be in any rush...
 
Sounds more like butylone to me. I dunno why people keep using MDMA as a benchmark with 4-MMC/M1. Of course the effects won't be identical/"as good as" MDMA, because they aren't MDMA.
 
I'm not sure either it's nothing like it for me at least, it's not even a good drug IMO.
 
^ Eh Ceres? I know for sure it was methylone alright, had it off one of the most reliable suppliers who i've had the crystally meph off aswell. Im saying that cause someone above said its better than MDMA. IMO methylone is utter crap, its fiendish as hell and you end up doing like half a gram at once to feel anything! Thats just me, sure theres some people love it, but for me its bad on the heart, no real buzz, no EMPATHY and wired for hours... thats just my 2cents.
 
I didn't find it fiendish at all, it was just so unnoticeable that I couldn't see what the fuss was about and I bought mines from a reliable source quite a few years ago long before the recent internet boom of methyl/meph.
 
I think what we've all learned here is that neither methylone, butylone, nor mephedrone have a set of effects shared across all users. Instead, every person's brain seems to have its own ranking from least to most in terms of stimulation, euphoria, empathy, etc. for each of the drugs.
 
I do get euphoric, empathic, and happy off methylone, for the first hour or two. Then it goes shite.
 
I get nothig, none of the good bits (not bad either just nowt happening) then the bad bits, really speedy and can't sleep.

Didn't think it had even worked when I'd tried it, I didn't notice I was fucked, hadn't told anyone I'd taken it and they didn't comment meaning they didn't notice and spent the night in the club and pub feeling sober.
 
Coolio said:
I think what we've all learned here is that neither methylone, butylone, nor mephedrone have a set of effects shared across all users.
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I disagree.

In my opinion, all that's been learned here is that *deep breath* when you have a random group of people each with arbitrary levels of drug-experience, intellect, education, self-awareness, perceptivenes, naivety, healthconditions, recklessness etc, taking arbitrary doses of substances of unknown provenance, purity or even verifiable identity, in wildly differing contexts, loaded with preconceptions about what effects they expect or desire, along with underlying trepidation about using novel RC's with no toxicology profile and a dusting of nasty potential health complications, the result is just a big heap of equally as arbitrary conflicting experience reports, potentially risky advice, and old wives tales.
 
Is that not basically the same as saying
I think what we've all learned here is that neither methylone, butylone, nor mephedrone have a set of effects shared across all users.
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?
 
Ceres said:
I disagree.

In my opinion, all that's been learned here is that *deep breath* when you have a random group of people each with arbitrary levels of drug-experience, intellect, education, self-awareness, perceptivenes, naivety, healthconditions, recklessness etc, taking arbitrary doses of substances of unknown provenance, purity or even verifiable identity, in wildly differing contexts, loaded with preconceptions about what effects they expect or desire, along with underlying trepidation about using novel RC's with no toxicology profile and a dusting of nasty potential health complications, the result is just a big heap of equally as arbitrary conflicting experience reports, potentially risky advice, and old wives tales.
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Ceres you should really read over some of your posts. You sound like a complete prick in the few that I have read.. :p
 
Neither did I but it had to be said! Thats about the third or fourth time I've felt like saying it aswell... :\
 
Treacle said:
Is that not basically the same as saying ?
I think what we've all learned here is that neither methylone, butylone, nor mephedrone have a set of effects shared across all users.
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Nah it isn't, and it also explains why :
Coolio said:
Instead, every person's brain seems to have its own ranking from least to most in terms of stimulation, euphoria, empathy, etc. for each of the drugs.
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isn't a "finding" either... No?
 
Everything effects everyone differently. Do you agree with that? That's why there are conflicting reports.
 
Treacle said:
Everything effects everyone differently. Do you agree with that? That's why there are conflicting reports.
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"Everything effects everyone differently" is ridiculously simplistic way to look at it) Wouldn't it be a pretty safe bet that in physiological and pharmacological terms all three substances are likely to have fairly predictable, consistent effects and aftereffects?

In psychological terms - well, I posted that list of the kind of things I'd imagine could be real contributing factors behind so many different experience reports.

Do you agree with that?

For Coolio to say "I think what we've all learned here is that neither methylone, butylone, nor mephedrone have a set of effects shared across all users." is simply baseless specualtion and along with "Instead, every person's brain seems to have its own ranking from least to most in terms of stimulation, euphoria, empathy, etc. for each of the drugs." is really just taking for face value a bunch of random sets of data and then stating the obvious as if it useful fact!......

Oh and
captain codshit said:
Ceres you should really read over some of your posts. You sound like a complete prick in the few that I have read..
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If you or anyone else have issues with any of my posts on BL, why not post a reply at the time saying whats bothering you, or drop me a PM or something?! I might be a prick in your mind captain codshit, but at least I'm civil about it.
 
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