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Methylone (MDMA-bk) - 8th time 300mg - Glowing Comedown

Ekstasis-//7

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So I have had somewhere around 9 or 10 trips on the M1 (MDMA-bk) now. Plus a few times just at small dosages. I felt this trip report was worth reporting on as it was quite different to the others I experienced.

To quickly summarise, I have found the compound I have needs around 300mg (in one initial dosage) to reach a full experience. Original testing at the 100-200mg dosage both myself and friends found didn't reach anywhere near the peak. I believe the compound I have is probably weak.

So anyway the big difference I found in the experience this time I had M1 was that I felt great the whole way through from the peak till to the comedown right into the next afternoon. Very much like I have had on MDMA. This was very strange as I usually find M1 gives me an empty, depressed feeling comedown or at least feeling pretty edgy and speedy. I have also found on quite a few of my M1 experiences I may not feel not completely happy and on top of the world like as if I do not reach the peak 100% (as I would with MDMA).

I will try and keep my trip brief. Basically I decided to go out last minute to a bar with my roommate. The local bars are pretty grungy and usually have pretty poor music, not what I would think of as a great setting at all. My roommate wanted to go out and chat up random girls he thought I could use the experience as a way to improve my low confidence. I am already kinda tipsy, had a few drinks and all. End up dumping 300mg of M1 and going out. Around T+20mins we are in the 1st bar. I am feeling some edgy/speediness which I know means I'm coming up. The bar is pretty dead and is taking forever for the bartender to notice us so we leave. We hit the second bar by the time I have come back from the bathroom it is probably around T+30-40mins. I start to feel kinda spacey and relaxed very much like the MDMA peak. I bump into my other roommate and his girlfriend. One of the guys I work with is playing guitar and singing on stage. Never heard him play before. He's good. I bump into someone else from work. The roommate who I came in with wanted to chat to girls but I can't be bothered and leave him to it. I feel great and am happy just chillin and dancing with everyone up near the stage. My other roommate and his girlfriend are awesome to hang out with. They are some damn good friends and are always encouraging and giving me compliments. Probably around T+50-60mins the bar closes and we head home. For the while maybe 30mins-1hr I hang out with roommate and his girlfriend. We listen to music chat and watch Tiesto DVD. They go off to their room and for the next 3 hours or more so I throw on Tiesto DVD's and listen to music. I didn't have any of the usual speedy anxious comedown. I felt great and didn't feel depressed as usual. I enjoyed listening to music right up until I went to sleep and felt so optimistic and afterglowing the next afternoon. The whole experience including comedown and the next afternoon I felt amazing much like some of my best MDMA experiences. I am stunned that this compound has been such an awesome experience this time and had pretty much none of the nasty side effects I usually get. All I can guess is that setting and mindset played a huge role in this experience. Possibly the alcohol helped a little too?

How strange?!?

Peace n safe trippin
Ekstasis-//7
 
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In your other methylone experiences, have you found the comedown to be bad enough that you consider not experimenting with it anymore? Its interesting that you did not experience a comedown this time, but you are probally right about the set and setting playing a role in that. Im sure it has to do with your mindset at the time.
 
My own best methylne trip came when I was hanging out with a group of really good friends and talking. Then my mom called me and I ended up talking to her, my dad, and my little brother for almost 3 hours. There was no comedown at all... it was like the methylone slowly, slowly, slowly faded into a great afterglow that didn't fully leave until I slept, and even then I felt great for days.

I definitely find that methylone shines in warm social situations, especially with great friends. When I take it alone or in a less than ideal setting, I get strong urges to redose until it's gone, and the comedown is fiendy, which I hate.
 
Yes in terms of the M1 comedown I have definately considered not experimenting with it anymore. There are also other reasons that I take into account. I did find I had some (although very short) amazing glowing experiences (utopia on top of the world type experieces similar to MDMA) on the peak. These type of experiences make me wonder if I can take something good from it despite hating the sketchy speedy pill type comedowns wich take away from it. I was given a some extra M1 when I bought some. The reason I have continued to experiment with it is largely due to the fact that I had some from my initial purchase. (It's now almost gone though). I am lucky to have experieced such an awesome glowing experience with a relaxed amazing comedown. I would never expected this from my previous times.

In the future though I don't see why I would want to buy M1 when MDMA I think is cheaper, lasts longer, boosts better and more consistently gives glowing and theraputic type experiences. Yes for me the comdown is a huge part of it which is why I am so picky and so thorough in testing pills. -peace
 
the comedown from M1 cases me not to want to repeat the expierence.
It is not bad, but still there is a comedown.
I do not use MDMA either for this same reason.

I only use stims if and when i have opiates or benzos for the crash, then it is bareable
 
I prefer the MDMA comedown to methylone's, but the reason I like methylone a lot and absolutely despise MDMA is the next week of aftereffects. Methylone leaves me feeling 100% fine the next day, and the next, and the next. I just don't have any aftereffects from it, even once when I took it 3 days in a row and went through over a gram including lots of redosing the last night. MDMA, on the other hand, is so bad I decided to never take it again. I'm normally a very happy and passionate person, but during the week (3 weeks last time) after MDMA, starting the second day after usually, I get horribly, deeply depressed, anxious, and weepy. I've never felt so terrible in any other situation in my life as I did the last time (with just a single dose). It was impossible to consistently tell myself that it was just a temporary chemical imbalance.

*shudder*
 
There is not nearly the 'crash' associated with MDMA for the M1 comedown. M1 eases off gently and then you go to sleep. The next day you wake up feeling tired (and not wanting to move) but generally pretty baseline.

I believe it has to do with M1's predominant agonist qualities (I bet it releases much less serotonin and it more a serotonin HT agonist and a serotonin reuptake inhibitor).

I recommend you experiment first with lower doses. I find it shines for me at doses around 40-50mg rectally. The after-effects on this dosage are REALLY benign.
 
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