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Methylone -- First time -- Felt just like MDMA, then ...

DoubleTrouble

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Me: male, 6’4”, 170 lbs, 17 years old

Medications: 1mg Klonopin daily, 10mg Ambien most nights

Supplements: 5-HTP, L-Tyrosine, and vitamins daily

Drug experience: Alcohol, nicotine, weed, MDMA, Ketamine, 2C-E, DXM, opiates, LSA, kratom, mushrooms, amanita muscaria, salvia, amphetamines, Ritalin, benzos, and others I can’t recall at the moment

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Today: ~250mg Methylone orally (first attempt with this chemical), ate a light meal several hours ago, positive mind set, well rested, just got back from going for a run (which I like to do to clear my mind for psychedelics)

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T0:00 (7:09pm) - I received 1g of Methylone from a reliable chemical distributor several days ago and have been anxiously holding off sampling it until tonight. My best drug experiences in the past have been with MDMA and Ketamine and I am very curious about this particular chemical because of its comparison to a “relaxed” ecstasy. I haven’t taken any Tryptamines or Phenethylamines in about half a year so obviously I shouldn’t have any tolerance. I have only taken MDMA 5-10 times before so it has certainly not lost its “magic” yet for me. I am nonetheless interested in exploring some of the various RCs out there.

Okay, enough background information! I am temporarily without a scale so I divided the gram of Methylone into four approximately equal 250mg doses and ingested one of them. Took a couple of Tums to ward away any potential nausea. Already feeling good from my run, it’s time to take a shower while I wait for the effects to kick in…

T+0:57 – I’ve been experiencing “come up” effects for about the last 15 minutes or so. The initial feeling is incredibly similar to (if not completely indistinguishable from) that of MDMA. My heart rate has noticeably increased and my pupils are huge. I’m in an excellent head space, but there are no perceptional distortions to report besides a slight tingly feeling and a chill in the air. No nausea to speak of. Cold, clammy hands. Damn I’m feeling good. Definitely a ++ on Shulgin’s scale.

T+1:25 – I can now see how Methylone and MDMA differ. As others have previously described, there is no “push” from Methylone. The euphoria is still here, but I do not feel any sense of urgency or overstimulation. It truly is a “relaxed stimulation” although those two words may seem contradictory. My mind is feeling very empathetic and introspective. There is no single thing in my surroundings that is immediately begging for my attention; I feel very much in control. As for perceptual changes, colors seem especially vibrant and music is enhanced. The only negative right now is that I am having difficulty staying at a comfortable temperature, as my extremities are quite cold even though I am bundled up in warm clothes and a blanket. Overall, still ++ and I sense this might get more intense yet; I do not feel like I have peaked.

T+3:20 – Some of the euphoria is fading away now but I am still enjoying this very interesting and contemplative state. Self-reflection, writing, and listening to music have allowed me to explore thoughts that are usually suppressed by my mind in every day life. It is as if I have been granted the gift of looking at my life objectively, free from ordinary defense mechanisms, skepticism, and ego. No new perceptual changes to note. The peak of this experience never quite reached a full +++ and now things seem to be at a declining ++ state. Although very enjoyable in its own rite, this dose of Methylone never quite reached the level of pure euphoria that I have had with MDMA in the past.

T+3:43 – My pupils are no longer dilated and although I can still undoubtedly feel something lingering it is much more of a + than a ++. I estimate out about 100mg more Methylone, arrange it in a line, and send it up my nostrils. The initial burn isn’t horrible but the nasty chemical drip hangs around for awhile. I’m not ready for this to be over just yet though! I’m also brewing up a medium dose of Kratom tea for the comedown.

T+4:52 – The redose never really kicked in and my pupils are still small. I just downed some nasty tasting Kratom tea and am hoping I brewed up the right amount this time—my last experience with (way too much) Kratom involved me nodding off to sleep and waking up puking my guts out about 5 hours later. I also just took 2mg of Klonopin to help wind down the evening. I still feel a bit stimulated from the Methylone and I won’t be falling asleep anytime soon, but pretty much all of the euphoric effects of Methylone are gone. No harsh comedown, however.

T+6:04 – I’m still feeling a faint, trace amount of the Methylone but I think the redose was mostly just a waste. The Kratom and Klonopin have me feeling nice and relaxed though—I think I’ll brew up another cup of Kratom tea.

T+7:13 – No more noticeable effects from the Methylone. Feeling pretty exhausted physically and emotionally, but nice and relaxed at the same time. I’m gonna take an Ambien, watch a little TV, and call it a night. Kratom has treated me surprisingly well this evening— I’m feeling a nice opiate-like comfort with only the slightest hint of nausea. Not a bad first experience with Methylone either. I am curious about how this chemical would combine with something that is a bit more visual in its effects—that could be quite a nice synergy.

T+8:08 – Goodnight.

Summary: The initial effects of Methylone certainly mimicked those of MDMA but I was a little disappointed that there wasn’t a more profound peak. Although it was certainly useful for introspection and quite euphoric at times, there weren’t any interesting perceptual distortions or overwhelming emotions that would categorize a +++ experience. It is certainly something I will try again though, despite how expensive it is because of the relatively large dose it requires compared to other phens.
 
Great report. I suspect that when you've got more experience with both drugs, you'll see a bigger difference in the come-up from methylone vs. MDMA. Specifically, for me methylone lacks the often quite rough period of transition which MDMA causes - with methylone, one moment I'm sober, then after a few minutes of feeling speediness I'm all the way there.
 
^^ Agreed. I find methylone to be a much better drug overall than MDMA, because the euphoria feels more real to me, it's an easier and much more sober experience overall, and best of all, aside from an occasionally rough coke-like comedown (which can avoided if your setting is good), it has absolutely no aftereffects. MDMA makes me feel like I got hit by a truck and badly depressed afterwards for 5-7 days, and leaves residual emotional imbalanced for around a month sometimes, but methylone allows me to feel normal after the drug has been fully metabolized.

Nice report :)
 
I find going for a run to be the absolute perfect pre-trip preparation. My trips are exponentially better if I take the time to clear my mind (and running does it best for me). Getting exercise (especially outdoors) gets rid of almost all pre-trip anxiety that I get otherwise. Also, it's important for me that I have a stress-free day following the trip ... otherwise, the experience feels cramped and I don't get to the same level.

I have tried methylone once and MDMA about 7 times (3 times in conjunction with other psychedelics). Looking back, my methylone experience was great ... I went for a long walk with my girlfriend along a beautiful stream. We talked about everything, completely uninhibited. We discussed feelings about ourselves, our relationship, marriage, etc. It was very therapeutic. Then the sun was setting and we headed back to the house. At this time (about T+ 2:30) the emotional insight was fading, and I was left feeling kind of stoned and a bit anxious. For the rest of the experience, I debated whether the gain was worth the debt paid afterwards. In the end I think it was, but it's not something I would repeat often, if ever.

The same goes for MDMA, although there is definitely a stronger emotional push. I have had one so-so and one great experience with MDMA alone. The great experience was again with my girlfriend ... and involved a lot of discussion and uninhibited communication. I think we are both naturally good communicators with each other, but these two drugs opened up doors that were usually kept shut.

I relegate these two chemicals to a special class of therapeutic compounds, and I'm not sure if I'll ever use them purely recreationally again. That is with the exception of combining MDMA and psychedelics, which I'll always keep to a minimum because I never want it to get old. For pure recreation ... my recipe is LSD + MDMA + MMJ. No, not MJ. I mean the band, My Morning Jacket, live in concert. A hedonistic experience that I'm not sure can be topped.

Thanks for the report!
 
I and my wife like to smoke/vaporise a lot of cannabis throughout a methylone trip, after the peak. In fact, she normally gets high anxiety from even medium doses of cannabis, but on methylone she can vaporise fine pot to her heart's content without a problem.

If one is doing so and takes a moment to cover their eyes, they may even see some rather colorful, if simple, CEVs.

On the other hand, I know of several accounts, including one from a close friend, about negative experiences with smoking cannabis on methylone, so please be cautious.
 
nice report. your packing a lot of substances there for 17. wish i could get my hands on a few of those..
 
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