methylone, bk-MBDB and MDPV combos

[Mojo26236]

Methylone + BZP/TFMPP was a lousy combo. They seemed to cancel each other out.

A friend of mine took 250mg Methylone followed about 5 minutes later w/ 200/100mg BZP/TFMPP. Just as the Methylone started to peak about 45-50 minutes later, the BZP/TFMPP kicked in & totally ruined the entire experience. It was as if someone tossed a bucket of cold water in his face - it ended that quickly. All that remained was that lingering jittery stimulation common to both substances on the comedown. What a waste of Methylone.

 

[Chaos_the_dog]

Methylone + BZP/TFMPP was a lousy combo. They seemed to cancel each other out.

A friend of mine took 250mg Methylone followed about 5 minutes later w/ 200/100mg BZP/TFMPP. Just as the Methylone started to peak about 45-50 minutes later, the BZP/TFMPP kicked in & totally ruined the entire experience. It was as if someone tossed a bucket of cold water in his face - it ended that quickly. All that remained was that lingering jittery stimulation common to both substances on the comedown. What a waste of Methylone.

IMHO BZP/TFMPP IS lousy..period! But that´s me.. ;o)

 

[rm-rf]

oh man marklar ur username is hilarious...if it comes from south park that is...

man ive never seen methylone in my life. reading all this stuff about it is making me a bit curious

 

[Chaos_the_dog]

oh man marklar ur username is hilarious...if it comes from south park that is...

man ive never seen methylone in my life. reading all this stuff about it is making me a bit curious

You absolutely should be! It´s a fantastic drug!

 

[Mojo26236]

^^ I agree; well worth trying IMHO. It's kind of hard to find & it's expensive when you do, but I've been told that it's the closest mostly legal thing out there to MDMA. The only downside for me is its frustratingly short duration (3-4hrs).

 

[djfriendly]

I'm personally interested in hearing anyone's experiences with a combination of methylone and MDMA.

I and my wife have tried it a couple times, in varying order. I wouldn't say "don't do it" but it wasn't anything to write home about, certainly not worth the very noticable extra depletion of energy the next day.

Once about 3-4 hours after ingesting 120mg MDMA, we took a 100mg booster of methylone, and it did provide an extension of the high and a mood boost. I don't think it was much different from taking another small dose of MDMA. I had a really weird experience that night. A couple hours later, I took 20mg 2C-B, and the effects of the 2C-B took four hours to come on! I was so tired by then that I watched the visuals for an hour and then went to sleep.

Another time, we took methylone and then decided we wanted to kick it up a notch with MDMA - if I remember correctly (because my memory of that night is rather spotty), we took 200mg methylone and then took 120mg MDMA about two hours later. Once again, the combo didn't really seem to do much that MDMA couldn't do on its own. It was a fun night but considering I remember little of it, and was completely wiped out the next two days, I think it was not the healthiest combo ever dreamed up. We were in a hotel and supposed to check out but we paid a lot of extra money not to have to leave until mid-afternoon. We probably took 2C-B that night too, but we've never noticed any additional "hangover" effects from adding 2C-B to MDMA.

 

[hugo24]

It seems if the serotonerg/dopaminerg ratio is in the ballpark as it is with MDMA and Methylone,you can't optimize any further.

But lets say if you take MBDB or MDAI (too selective Serreleasers) with Methamphetamin,you might get into the ballpark.

 

[Wasted_Youth_HHT]

mix 70mg of methylone and 70mg of bk-mbdb and inject them !!!! its fuckin' great

 

[Helios.]

hugo24,
do you have exp. wrt. MDAI?
how was it?

 

[fastandbulbous]

MDPV is a high speed shorcut to amphetamine psychosis.

Everybody I know who has used it agrees that MDPV is actually less psychosis inducing than ampetamine/methamphetamine/coke by a long way - the fiending isn't linked to psychotic behaviour to any extent IME; the only psychotic effects from MDPV seem to be completely linked to sleep deprivation unlike the other stims mentioned that can produce psychosis even with adequate amounts of sleep.

 

[Wasted_Youth_HHT]

MDPV is a highly under rated compound.. mixing it with bk-mbdb and or MDMA isnt probably recommended unless u enjoy a more speedy roll.
Intravienous MDPV is by far the best way to administer it, for some reason its much cleaner and has less of a comedown. thats my experriance . I rate MDPV highly and theres a lot of bang for buck value

 

[EntheoDjinn]

Mdai

But lets say if you take MBDB or MDAI (too selective Serreleasers) with Methamphetamin,you might get into the ballpark.

I have access to some MDAI, but have not sampled yet, and search as I might I haven't been able to find any reliable info on dose, toxicity, suitable combos and etc. Can you direct me to any info please - maybe I've just looked in the wrong places.

 

[hugo24]

Someone I know said it was planned to introduce,though I think it never went online.And I think Another (f&b?) told that its N methyl cousine exists.But no report.

I have sampled it a few times,I'm currently unearthing old notes after the move so I can give you more precise infos a bit later.From memory it was active around 200mg,but I'm usually insensitive to MD stuff.No toxicity,in fact very clean on the body,second day felt more like from an antidepressant,at least no hangover.But its effects are too selective serotonergic in my view,it was actually dysphoric in higher doses abit like Eden.But no combos tried,probably the way to go,altough this could abolish the nonneurotoxic nature of MDAI.Maybe a new thread would be justified.

 

[djfriendly]

re: MDAI

But its effects are too selective serotonergic in my view,it was actually dysphoric in higher doses abit like Eden.

Such was my experience with bk-MBDB. Any receptor affinity data for that one, or guesses?

 

[fastandbulbous]

And I think Another (f&b?) told that its N methyl cousine exists.But no report.

No that was N-methyl IAP - a slightly better bet, but still requiring a dopaminergic to get the full MDA experience

BTW In the last 6 months I've gone through about 12g of MDPV (mostly via IM route. I know it's excessive, I def. don't need any lecture PM's) without any degredation of intellectual or hedonistic abilities - it's sexual enhancement played a big role in the amount consumed. Before that I've consumed a fair bit amphetamine over my years and MDPV seems less toxic overall.

 

[nuke]

No that was N-methyl IAP - a slightly better bet, but still requiring a dopaminergic to get the full MDA experience

BTW In the last 6 months I've gone through about 12g of MDPV (mostly via IM route. I know it's excessive, I def. don't need any lecture PM's) without any degredation of intellectual or hedonistic abilities - it's sexual enhancement played a big role in the amount consumed. Before that I've consumed a fair bit amphetamine over my years and MDPV seems less toxic overall.

That's good to know, I've been thinking about more of this stuff but have been worried about toxicity.

I don't know about combining MDPV with anything very MDMA like, if you want to get closer to MDMA you should probably use a stimulant with better DA release and less NE, like amphetamine/methamphetamine and MDAI.

 

[fastandbulbous]

I don't know about combining MDPV with anything very MDMA like, if you want to get closer to MDMA you should probably use a stimulant with better DA release and less NE, like amphetamine/methamphetamine and MDAI.

A combination of a dopaminergic and serotonogic drug like MDAI is still going to give the neurotoxicity of a drug like MDA as well though - it's the combo of massive serotonin release with dopamine that gives the neurotoxicity - no escaping that litlle bugger

 

[MDPVagrant]

MDPV is a highly under rated compound.. mixing it with bk-mbdb and or MDMA isnt probably recommended unless u enjoy a more speedy roll.
Intravienous MDPV is by far the best way to administer it, for some reason its much cleaner and has less of a comedown. thats my experriance . I rate MDPV highly and theres a lot of bang for buck value

Hmm... wish I were more of the needle type, I WILL NOT IV anything. In fact I'm almost too damn nervous to skin pop... my hand shakes like a leaf the entire time (try IM'ing when your hand's doing that, nice way to cause about a week's worth of pain).

Too bad I guess, but MDPV's nice enough when plugged and at least halfway decent when dissolved in dh2o and sniffed. Tried a bit of the smoking route recently, and frankly it sucked donkey dong. The smoke tastes harsh/bad, the effects last for just a few minutes and it's a big waste of money and product. Some people will do anything for a 'rush', guess I'm not one of 'em.

P.S. does anyone else here redose frequently and go on longer MDPV 'runs', or are most into the single/larger dose thing? Just couldn't hang with that, the effects are WAY too short lasting and just plain disappointing. Nothing more than a tease when it's used that way - like dating a cute girl and getting her in bed... for five minutes.

Everybody I know who has used it agrees that MDPV is actually less psychosis inducing than ampetamine/methamphetamine/coke by a long way - the fiending isn't linked to psychotic behaviour to any extent IME; the only psychotic effects from MDPV seem to be completely linked to sleep deprivation unlike the other stims mentioned that can produce psychosis even with adequate amounts of sleep.

Absolutely agree. MDPV vs. meth/coke to me is like beer vs. whiskey. Sure, a person can drink beer alcoholically (even screw their liver and shorten their life) but it's just not the same ballpark as the hard sh*t. MDPV is (A) wickedly addictive when used regularly, (B) can be compulsive as hell during actual use, (C) at least for someone I know, tends to cause or exacerbate clinical-strength depression between uses. I'm sure it's not good for the heart either... no dopaminergic substance is. But it's just not coke or meth, by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[fastandbulbous]

Hmm... wish I were more of the needle type, I WILL NOT IV anything. In fact I'm almost too damn nervous to skin pop... my hand shakes like a leaf the entire time (try IM'ing when your hand's doing that, nice way to cause about a week's worth of pain).

I will not IV anything either, but for me it's seeing needles go into flesh that turns mt stomach - you don't have to look when you jab it in your arse (just a quick spray with isopropanol, a swift hand movement and voila)!

P.S. does anyone else here redose frequently and go on longer MDPV 'runs', or are most into the single/larger dose thing?

How about several days of it (10-20mg shots - larger when involved in making the beast with... well you know! - every 3-4 hours; you don't get through 12g in 6 months with moderate use); that's how I know about the psychosis only being linked to sleep deprivation (again no PM lectures, I'm fully aware how careless that can be). Funnily enough, I don't get any depression with stopping, only an incredible urge to catch up on all the lost sleep (I seem to eat fairly normally while intoxicated, but dopamine reuptake inhibitors aren't the best anorexients - I spent 2 years feeding them to rats finding that out!- it was part of a research project before I get the 'heartless bastard PM's and also why I didn't continue in the world of academia). That could be linked to the lofepramine I'm currently taking for SAD though (might well be the way to offset a bad comedown for some people, like SSRI's after MDMA binges)

 

[spacefacethebassace]

Methylone+4-AcO-MiPT was nice. The euphoric effects of each synergized well, and I do believe Methylone lent it's own psychedelic edge to the trippy effects of the Mipracetin, which was insufflated about 4 hours after the M1 was taken orally.