methylone, bk-MBDB and MDPV combos

[ingo_1978]

Anyone recommend any good combos with these. methylone and bk-MBDB or methylone and MDPV might be interested? anyone tried these?

 

[marklar_the_23rd]

mdpv might be ok on the come down if you're feeling a bit tired. its just a short acting stim. i didnt think it was around anymore. thats a shame, i loved it. did you get it recently or has it been saved for a while (if you dont mind me asking )?

never had bk-MBDB so i cant really help much more sorry.

 

[nanobrain]

you'd be an idiot to combine MDPV w/E1 or B1. i say this from experience.

MDPV is a high speed shorcut to amphetamine psychosis.

M1 and cousins combine great with DMT. and just about everything else you happen to have in your house at the time. except MDPV.

 

[davesoviet]

I'm personally interested in hearing anyone's experiences with a combination of methylone and MDMA.

Unless I accidently skipped over one, I didn't see any bk-MDMA + MDMA experiences while skimming through reports.

 

[nanobrain]

^well, its like taking roughly 6 of one or about a half-dozen the other, minus a bit, but with sumthin-sumthin extra.

anything specific you want to know?

 

[Ximot]

I did not particularly enjoy the methylone/MDMA combo. I have tried it simultaneously, and I have also tried it starting with one and then taking the other later, and vice-versa. It's somehow "dirtier", with a rough body feeling, excessively high body temperature, and due to the short duration of M1, if you first take MDMA and then 2 hours later M1, there is a chance you will crash harder than on either drug alone. Apart from that, inititally it's quite headfuck, I was uncontrollably "happy" - but the crash, oh oh oh! Also it made me euphoric to a degree that could have easily led me to make unwise decisions.

Regarding MDPV - it isn't that short-acting, I think. Though I also wouldn't combine it with other things except alcohol.

 

[nanobrain]

oh, and a short note on MDPV.

post use, seems to foreverafter negate any euphoric properties formerly associated with other traditional, non-psychedelic stimulants.

anyone note similar?

 

[Ximot]

/\ would you include MDMA and M1 in your "non-psychedelic stimulants" list??
I found MDMA to work as well as ever afterwards, and M1 as well. But then I have only used MDPV twice so far.

I have not used amphetamine since my second trial of MDPV, so I can't comment in this for sure. But after my first trial, amphetamine was perfectly good to me...

 

[nanobrain]

no, the empathogens are not on the list and still work as intended.

but every other stim just brings to mind the MDPV benchmark...

 

[Ximot]

/\ hmm... how much MDPV did you do? I can see how it would make me strung out if I did too much, if I kept boosting. Short-acting it may be, but it still lasts 2-3 hours plus residual stimulation where sleep my be kept at bay. I have had 4-FMP since I first tried MDVP, and that was one gentle euphoric stim high at 50mg (quite low dose for that one , I know).

I remember you writing elsewhere to "be careful with this one" (MDPV) . . . a had approx 20mg over the course of a few hours and added some smoked tryptamines, mainly 2C-E (12mg). I didn't want to take more because of the fact that smoking might make it stronger and more likely to cause symptoms of toxicity. And I also wondered about the stim/2C combo, especially physically. But it was perfectly fine.

 

[Xorkoth]

MDPV can be useful in small amounts but can also be quite evil. The only way I've found it worth it was to take 5-10mg orally, and the effects are especially noted when doing mental work. I once snorted 5-7mg, and the comedown was harsh, as is the case with larger oral amounts. I've read reports of people going through 100mg in a day and the like, and it always ended very badly.

Also, I wouldn't combine it with anything.

 

[fizzacyst]

I've mixed methylone and MDMA once, and will not again.

I had intended on just taking the MDMA, but I had only 1 tablet and it turned out to be a little on the weak side.. I'm guessing something like 70-80mg, and I need closer to 130mg or so to get the full effects.

As soon as I realized this wasn't going to go anywhere (I really dislike threshold MDMA experiences), I took 200mg methylone. It seems to take over a bit, water down the MDMA feeling. I could distinctly feel the methylone, as the rush I get when it kicks in in really pretty intense.

The "warm" or "fuzzy" effect from the methylone seemed to disspate quicker, and I moved into the second phase of the methylone experience where I just feel overstimulated. Except this time I felt really cracked out and fidgety.

 

[djfriendly]

A booster of 60mg bk-MDBD was taken a few hours after ingesting 200mg methylone, and a not very pleasant dysphoria was the result.

bk-MDEA, on the other hand, has proved to be very good at relieving post-peak, methylone-induced sketchiness when taken in the same schedule as described above. I wish one could still buy it.

 

[Ximot]

yeah, I was experiencing the comedown of MDPV while peaking on 2CE . . . certainly showed that fiending isn't really the way to go, and I agree that it may well not combine that well with anything empathogenic/psychedelic/stimulating.

Both methylone and MDPV I have found to combine agreeably with moderate amounts of alcohol, though (beer!!). But then I think that about a lot of substances I enjoy taking when going out.

 

[spun420 v. 2.0]

I find m1 and mdma to go quite well together. the mdpv just sounds scrary, I don't think any "research" will be going on around here w/ that one.

 

[spun420 v. 2.0]

wanted to add, that m1 is more the lay around the house sort of substance while mdma is better for being out and about.

 

[Dondante]

I don't even know why MDPV is in this thread. It is totally unrelated to MDMA and there are some possible dangers in mixing the two. The MD doesn't mean it's even remotely like most of the other methylenedioxy compounds out there. It's more like ritalin than anything.

I used it today to help me get motivated and focus, but after about 3 hours I felt scattered and unfocused. This crappy feeling persisted for pretty much the rest of the day. I'll give it another chance someday but I wasn't too impressed this time. Maybe it would have been more positive if I wasn't trying to study damn carbohydrate metabolism and G-proteins. There's another big thread on MDPV in ADD.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=210790&page=10

 

[Chaos_the_dog]

I´ve just tried a combo of Methylone and 5-meo-dipt. I took 240 mg Methylone and when I peaked I took 5 mg 5-meo-dipt orally. About 1 hour later I snorted another 2 mg 5-meo-dipt.
I must say the Foxy was a treat and made the peak of the Methylone seem like 3-4 hours or so (1-1½ hours normally for me)! It was, for me, a perfect combo. Even though I had initial effects all the way through to hour 14. From hour 7 or 8 there was only a physical stimulation witch was, at some point around hour 12 and forth, pretty annoying since I coudn´t sleep because of it. Spine shivers!
It came close to being one of the best combos I´ve ever tried and experienced. Deffinently worth another go!

 

[Coolio]

5-MeO-DIPT + methylone was the worst drug combination I've ever tried. 5-MeO-DIPT is anxiogenic for me, and causes acute paranoid psychosis even at lower doses. I figured being high on methylone when the 5-MeO-DIPT set in would fix this, but it didn't. The methylone went away immediately, and when the 5-MeO-DIPT went away too, I felt completely cracked out and had OOBE's the next day and it was like a psychotic lucid dream played out in reality.

 

[Chaos_the_dog]

5-MeO-DIPT + methylone was the worst drug combination I've ever tried. 5-MeO-DIPT is anxiogenic for me, and causes acute paranoid psychosis even at lower doses. I figured being high on methylone when the 5-MeO-DIPT set in would fix this, but it didn't. The methylone went away immediately, and when the 5-MeO-DIPT went away too, I felt completely cracked out and had OOBE's the next day and it was like a psychotic lucid dream played out in reality.

Yeah that shows perfectly how differently we all react to these chemicals. That is why it is so important that we share our experiences here!