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Methylone Addiction Potential -- Its more than "morish"

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A thread in ED would be nice, but i know there is a specific thread for methylone, i kind of want this to be its own topic if that is alright.

I am someone that has been on this site for a while.... I am an experienced user of psychedelic and entheogenic substances. I am about to stop what has been a binge of a little more than 2 weeks. Grams were gone through, and now i am experiencing what I now see as the beginning of an addiction forming, and quite visibly apparent when i try to stop, but we will get to that when we get there.

my prefered route of administration was definitely plugging. Within seconds you feel something "different" its subtle, but there..... Over the next 5 minutes, the comeup is rapid and hits like a truck.

The thing is, i wake up the next morning or just come down, and i feel fine. I have i have probably done some damage to my body, but these are research chemicals, and to all the info that i can find, no has gone this far and written down what happened in a public place for others to read. At the very least, i want there to be some positive side in this if other people can benefit from the information.

Bk-MDMA is one hell of a drug, the thing about MDMA is that you run out of serotonin pretty quickly... This, done in moderation doesn't release nearly enough serotonin, but the dopamine and norepinephrine, make up for this in gusto at the cost of being addictive if you get out of control with it.

Im not going to lie, i have been legitamently high off this one for the last 2 weeks. And its still pretty much on the same level as when i started it. My tolerance isn't massive, i do like 150-300mg amounts, which is about normal dose range.

My experience with it, is that you can stay high on this one for a while. I went like a couple days without sleep. Had a lot of really good times.... But now i can say that i feel at least a minor addiction to methylone.

Im stopping after writing this though, so i will probably write a retrospective on the experience of the withdrawal from this one as it progresses.

This is a drug with a lot of potential for some amazing experiences.... But my advice is to watch yourself on it, if its available and cheap, it can get way out of hand faster than you would think.
 
Are you sure you dont mean Mephedrone because ive done both and i think most people would agree that what your describing sounds much more like drone than methylone. I had a good run with drone but methylone i did not find addictive at all and i thought it was kind of too mellow or weak. you might be gettin sold Mephedrone as Methylone is your source reliable?
 
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Are you sure you dont mean Mephedrone because ive done both and i think most people would agree that what your describing sounds much more like drone than methylone. I had a good run with drone but methylone i did not find addictive at all and i thought it was kind of too mellow or weak. you might be gettin sold Mephedrone as Methylone is your source reliable?
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To be honest, methylone and mephedrone are quite similar. Methylone is also wayyyy easier to find these days than drone. If anything it would be the other way around.
 
Interesting, I didn't find Methylone addicting @ all. Moreish yes, I would feel the need to redose to keep the peak going because it seemed a bit short.

For me I don't consider it addicting because if I dosed 2 days in a row, the second day the experience would totally lack the entactogenic effects and be much more speedy. To me it seemed like the serotonin/ecstasy like aspect of methylone was heavily diminished after 2 days of use and totally gone after 3.
 
I went through my first gram of methylone pretty quickly, taking it daily until it was gone...sometimes twice a day. Going to try and get more for Xmas day and New Years Eve and then give the RCs a break for a while.

I definitely noticed some uncomfortable side effects while "binging", including sleep paralysis, mild moodiness and stomach issues. Still nothing compared to the after-effects of MDMA, but probably not good to play with if you have mental health problems.

And yes, mephedrone is more more-ish than methylone, but both have the potential to induce psychological addiction...especially because they're cheap, easily available and short-acting.
 
I dont find Methylone moreish at ALL, once every few months is fine for me. Never even felt the need to bump the initial high.
 
I am one of the few who fully thinks that mephedrone is both mentally and physically addicting. Methylone on the other hand is what I call "good" drug...meaning that if used is safe amounts it can cause good for mankind(empathy/understanding). I do not think it is addicting in nature but anyone can get hooked on anything so who knows!
 
I'm assuming you do mean methylone (not mephedrone), because usually when you seem pretty intelligent, and usually when someone binges on a drug, they know the right name ;)

Addiction is a mysterious thing- I've seen people become heavily addicted to the least likely substances, and I've seen people try some of the most addictive drugs and walk away quite easily. It's such a personal chemistry thing, and while I found mephedrone (my fave drug of all time) more fiendish than methylone, I do understand the urge to take more. Plenty of people have been in your boat with methylone, when I do a google search. :(

I think you are on the right path, you have to certainly take a break from it, if not just not do it altogether. Though I enjoyed methylone, I make a point to have a personal rule with myself that I'm only going to do drugs when my other friends are all in on it, once a month maximum. I break that rule every now and then, but I've found mephedrone and methylone quite easy to store away for an occasion.
 
Shit where i live drone is waayyyy easier to find and methylone i only get sometimes but me and my friends found methylone non addicting but i know like 20 kids in my area right now that are binging on drone as we speak. Drone and that nasty Butylone shit is everywhere where i live
 
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Combined with mephedrone it's incredibly addictive IMO. There's nothing like the rush of plugging (probably IV too) this combo... nothing

I could sit there dosing all day and it'd feel like it was only a few minutes
 
man what do you expect, taking any drug daily for 2 weeks would make you addicted. What are you surprised about? Methylone is not benign. Just get off it mate before you completely deplete your brain off all its chemicals.... your taking a risk here. Just force yourself to a healthy lifestlye from now on and youll be fine. good luck.
methylone is addictive, more than mdma. Comedown is not worth it imo
 
don't take methylone daily for weeks or months. I felt like i practically had a nervous breakdown today, and it reminded me of when i HAD a nervous breakdown while i was taking duloxetine (SNRI) a few years ago... not good

this is stretching 1g approx 32 days.. i couldn't imagine any more this year at least..

it's great, but like MD(M)A, it deserves respect
 
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UPDATE: I now find methylone very "moreish" and can go through a gram in 2 days. The high never seems to decrease and I can re-dose alllll day without any overwhelming side effects. I don't blame the substance, as I tend to crave stimulants and use them as a daily thing rather than once in a while, but still. Use caution if you are prone to stimulant/entactogen abuse.
 
socalthizzn said:
i notice all of these chemicals that come from the khat plant seem to have this empty / urge to redose effect. i wonder if this is just a characteristic of using that precursor to make these chemicals...? /theory
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just a chemistry clarification, methylone & mephedrone are completely synthetic, and are NOT made from the khat plant. there is no easy way to simply stick things onto the aromatic phenyl ring of methcathinone (the alkaloid found in khat). Just like it would be nearly impossible to synthesize MDMA starting from methamphetamine.

They are called cathinones because they share the same backbone, but they are not made from methcathinone directly.

The "empty / urge to redose effect" is usually just called addition potential due to dopamine reward in the brain, just like coke, speed, heroin, and any other drug that feels good :) doesn't really have anything to do with plant sources
 
I don't think the methylone addiction potential is because of dopamine. I haven't found much more solely dopaminergic substances like coke or speed to be very addictive personally, but I know what the OP means about methylone. I'm having a similar issue, but with 4-mec which I find incredibly psychologically addictive, especially when insufflated. I think about it and crave it way too much - only the day-to-day logistics of my life are keeping me from obsessive use of it. I think its the combination of the effects of dopamine and serotonin release - I haven't really experience anything like this before and its incredibly seductive and attractive to just be feeling that feeling all the time. even though the comedown is awful and leaves me worn out, anxious, and depressed.
 
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