Sounds a bit like the 'robot death sequence' I had to endure a few years back while lying in the corner of the dance tent at some free party after stacking it on the K.
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Sounds a bit like the 'robot death sequence' I had to endure a few years back while lying in the corner of the dance tent at some free party after stacking it on the K.
mydrugbuddy
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i think yesterday was my shortest day ever. I watched the news and an episode of jeeves and wooster and fell asleep during the news, woke up for most of J&W took a load of etis and slept for 12 hours. I overdid the downers whilst on the mxe, that explains the lack of revelations and waking up not knowing where the hell i was. Jesus is my head foggy today, come on modafinil, do your stuff !
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mydrugbuddy
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i was asking that in the gibberings thread yesterday. Someone thoroughly versed in the stuff said that the post ban stuff is lacking the depth and wonkyness of the pre-ban. I dont doubt that there are different batches floating around though, some are gonna be better than others. I hope this query gets some more responses.
knock
Bluelighter
Thing is, tolerance... I have some post-ban MXE here that I got early this year (or was it late last year?); and when I first got it I was having to take 150-200mg to feel anything at all from it. So I backed off from it because it was a bit pointless, negative effects were outweighing the good ones. I wasn't sure if it was weaker or if my tolerance was just very high. And after a few months of very occasional use, suddenly it started being good again, 70mg hits the spot quite nicely and feels very similar to 15-20mg of the first batches when I had no tolerance at all. I'm still unable to get any psychedelic effects from it, but I'm pretty sure it's all down to tolerance.
I might be wrong though. I need to replenish my stocks so I'll get to try a current batch soon.
I might be wrong though. I need to replenish my stocks so I'll get to try a current batch soon.
T9358
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Although I got verbally slaughtered for this last time I posted anything like this this is what I have seen: 4 distinctly different batches as of late
1)--bright white crystalline powder (consistency of flour) very light and will float away if a slight breeze comes, slight smell, very potent (15-20mg with no tolerance will definitely have you really going, and hits HARD)- it will have small numbing effect when sublingual, has a very distinct smell and taste that is NOT salty at all, almost like coke, and is top notch- this might as well be pre ban, or same synth route and reagents/crystallization process - commonly reffered as European mxe - most interesting and defining thing there is no drip unless you snort 150+mg, just sit in there does its thing-dissolves pretty easily in water
2) ''Chinese MXE'' white salt sized grains that are crystal clear upon closer inspection, compared to #1 active at 8-12mg more easily, salt taste is there but not overwhelming, has no smell, similar slight anesthetic effect when sublingual, does not seem to last as long or as activating or manic type as #1, less vasoconstriction and heart rate increase when snorting,
when snorted this will liquefy run out your nose and down your throat- thus the effects are delayed mostly so oral ROA is better- distinctive thin is that it runs like water and recrystallizes in your snot and turns white, very easy to look at and see in your nose if it ran out.
3) "Chinese mxe''--white to yellow small salt looking grains, is very salty to taste and chemically, has same effects as #2 when snorted and the dosage is @+5-10mg above #2 due to obvious impurity and some of these batches of this kind can be very adrenergic feeling and cause cold extremities- I am guessing due to synth impurities and piss por clean up washes if at all of the end product----crap!!
4) no heard of any origin being thrown onto it but ---- white fluffy powder similar in appearance to #1 but is very loose and heavy, taste like none of the other 3, snorted it ran like the ''Chinese batches'', very very weak, compared to #1 batch it you would need double or even triple dosage ( very much for MXE daily users) and does not last the normal length of duration, burns when snorted and makes you wonder how much MXE is even in the damn powder, if you have been getting #1 you will toss the #4 mxe. bad purity or simply a analogue but purity is way more likely, this will definitely have you looking to find a better way to get mxe.
DISCLAIMER-- I fully understand that most if not 95% of MXE originates in china, that's no secret, there is also some coming from india and supposedly not so much as of late Europe as well, maybe US too, so when I said Chinese mxe or euro mxe, I was simply using the same language as vendor ads or BL forum chatter, I want to share this info because there is very, very high quality mxe like #1 batch and even #2 batch, but there is a lot of crap....
....MXE is a powerful tool for spiritual exploration, pain relief, emotional pain relief, social anxiety the practical and beneficial effects of mxe go on forever and ever, but it must be treated with respect and as a medicine or spiritual tool, and like those there are side effects and when dealing with random batches the possibility of impurities, which over time can be detrimental to your health, so if you find you have some crap MXE look into doing a acetone wash or another source, this has been one if not the most valuable compounds to come out in years.
***** tolerance must be factored in when getting a new batch, could be the reason you think its weak or the reason you just got back into your body after flying around several life times and demensions.
I don't want to rant sorry, PM me if you have any questions about anything
1)--bright white crystalline powder (consistency of flour) very light and will float away if a slight breeze comes, slight smell, very potent (15-20mg with no tolerance will definitely have you really going, and hits HARD)- it will have small numbing effect when sublingual, has a very distinct smell and taste that is NOT salty at all, almost like coke, and is top notch- this might as well be pre ban, or same synth route and reagents/crystallization process - commonly reffered as European mxe - most interesting and defining thing there is no drip unless you snort 150+mg, just sit in there does its thing-dissolves pretty easily in water
2) ''Chinese MXE'' white salt sized grains that are crystal clear upon closer inspection, compared to #1 active at 8-12mg more easily, salt taste is there but not overwhelming, has no smell, similar slight anesthetic effect when sublingual, does not seem to last as long or as activating or manic type as #1, less vasoconstriction and heart rate increase when snorting,
when snorted this will liquefy run out your nose and down your throat- thus the effects are delayed mostly so oral ROA is better- distinctive thin is that it runs like water and recrystallizes in your snot and turns white, very easy to look at and see in your nose if it ran out.
3) "Chinese mxe''--white to yellow small salt looking grains, is very salty to taste and chemically, has same effects as #2 when snorted and the dosage is @+5-10mg above #2 due to obvious impurity and some of these batches of this kind can be very adrenergic feeling and cause cold extremities- I am guessing due to synth impurities and piss por clean up washes if at all of the end product----crap!!
4) no heard of any origin being thrown onto it but ---- white fluffy powder similar in appearance to #1 but is very loose and heavy, taste like none of the other 3, snorted it ran like the ''Chinese batches'', very very weak, compared to #1 batch it you would need double or even triple dosage ( very much for MXE daily users) and does not last the normal length of duration, burns when snorted and makes you wonder how much MXE is even in the damn powder, if you have been getting #1 you will toss the #4 mxe. bad purity or simply a analogue but purity is way more likely, this will definitely have you looking to find a better way to get mxe.
DISCLAIMER-- I fully understand that most if not 95% of MXE originates in china, that's no secret, there is also some coming from india and supposedly not so much as of late Europe as well, maybe US too, so when I said Chinese mxe or euro mxe, I was simply using the same language as vendor ads or BL forum chatter, I want to share this info because there is very, very high quality mxe like #1 batch and even #2 batch, but there is a lot of crap....
....MXE is a powerful tool for spiritual exploration, pain relief, emotional pain relief, social anxiety the practical and beneficial effects of mxe go on forever and ever, but it must be treated with respect and as a medicine or spiritual tool, and like those there are side effects and when dealing with random batches the possibility of impurities, which over time can be detrimental to your health, so if you find you have some crap MXE look into doing a acetone wash or another source, this has been one if not the most valuable compounds to come out in years.
***** tolerance must be factored in when getting a new batch, could be the reason you think its weak or the reason you just got back into your body after flying around several life times and demensions.
I don't want to rant sorry, PM me if you have any questions about anything
hexagram
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m-hole
I know the k-hole is very popular and a lot of people have experienced it, but has anyone ever been through the m-hole? (mxe)
just wondering because I probably had the most intense experience of my life on it a few days ago. I can't really put it into words. Whilst on mxe, life just changed completely. Again, I can't really put it into words, but I kept morphing into different things, everything did, into weird shapes and shit, this kept going on until life became totally different and alien to what it is now. I then realized that the world was ending, I was dying and moving onto the next phase, where I became this mass wall of consciousness. I could feel everyone I knew as a part of it, but it wasn't physical as such. We were all outside of time and space, one collective consciousness.
It was completely mad, maybe even moreso than k-holes. never tried DMT but from my experience, dissociatives are the ultimate trip. If you really want to experience something totally, completely alien, take some K or MXE.
I didn't like them at first but I'm getting a real taste for the madness and power of dissociatives.
I know the k-hole is very popular and a lot of people have experienced it, but has anyone ever been through the m-hole? (mxe)
just wondering because I probably had the most intense experience of my life on it a few days ago. I can't really put it into words. Whilst on mxe, life just changed completely. Again, I can't really put it into words, but I kept morphing into different things, everything did, into weird shapes and shit, this kept going on until life became totally different and alien to what it is now. I then realized that the world was ending, I was dying and moving onto the next phase, where I became this mass wall of consciousness. I could feel everyone I knew as a part of it, but it wasn't physical as such. We were all outside of time and space, one collective consciousness.
It was completely mad, maybe even moreso than k-holes. never tried DMT but from my experience, dissociatives are the ultimate trip. If you really want to experience something totally, completely alien, take some K or MXE.
I didn't like them at first but I'm getting a real taste for the madness and power of dissociatives.
foolsgold
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m-holes are real and beautiful a lot mellower than k-holes as well
Sammy G
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Neither are half as much fun as gloryholes.
hexagram
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lol, best response ever.
Tangerine Dream
Bluelighter
Holing on mxe is great, apart from that time I thrashed about and screamed (IMed too much).
I prefer it to ket, although I have had some amazing k-holes. Too many. Funny I reach the same place with salvia too. That space that makes total sense for the duration. Then you sober up and a lot of it is lost almost right away.
I just love going into a dream like state. I imagine I'd like DMT smoked a lot!
I prefer it to ket, although I have had some amazing k-holes. Too many. Funny I reach the same place with salvia too. That space that makes total sense for the duration. Then you sober up and a lot of it is lost almost right away.
I just love going into a dream like state. I imagine I'd like DMT smoked a lot!
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GodSpeedK
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Oh dear, don't get too enticed by them...
For me, MXE and it's hole is a bit of a nightmare. You aren't sedated, so you move around, playing out the non-existent reality you've created for yourself. Can lead to very shit situations. It also leans towards more negative delusions than K holes, even if K has a fair share of them too.
But this is my experience with it only 3 times. It's just not for me, like K just isn't something that everyone loves.
Holes can be great, but it's always so intense when you're slowly rising to the surface and you don't know who you are or where. Kinda like being re-born - also the out-of-body experience tends to occasionally give me a 3rd person perspective for those few minutes of returning. A curtain is definitely torn down when you enter a hole. Life takes on the most peculiar and baffling form. One time I fel like I was literally connected to everyone in the world. Except not in the hippie type way; literally connected, like we were just one vast ball of heads attached, telepathically in tune, and it was one of the most claustrophobic sensations I've ever had. Wouldn't want that again.
Tangerine Dream
Bluelighter
I hear you. Totally agree with the last paragraph.
ScotchMist
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Ive never tried MXE, whilst i am tempted and intrigued by it i just do not like the idea of being in a hole and still mobile..
It sounds to risky for me. Which is a shame seeing as K has dissappeared and an alternative which is held in high regard is available.
Oh well...![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I'll live in hope that ketamine shows up again...
It sounds to risky for me. Which is a shame seeing as K has dissappeared and an alternative which is held in high regard is available.
Oh well...
I'll live in hope that ketamine shows up again...desertshore
Bluelighter
I tried MXE twice, going straight for the hole both times. The first one was very unpleasant, I was annoyed by noise coming from the street, I moved a lot on the bed and puked a few times. The second one was better - the onset was still bad (maybe too much mxe, I don't know..), but after a while things mellowed out and it was nice. But I'll take K-holes over M-holes any day
SB1981
Bluelighter
Vein holes I create are fun.
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Plenty - especially these last few months. I find them completely different to k-holes - not chaotic and incomprehensibly (and rather wonderfully 
) bizarre like k-holes but far more structured and lucid... at least the parts I can remember which is a fraction of the whole of the holinesses for sure. On MXE I don't really get any of the kaleidoscopic sci-fi cartoon profundoinsanity stuff that's such a feature of ketamine, rather I am (or at least at the time utterly convinced of being) physically transported to another realm. A physical place with other sentient beings of some form (although actual interactions are rare and - as far as I can recall - the details of any communications are the first thing to be lost in memory with only hazy details of situations and feelings left. A particularly striking feature is of being "me" at all times (or all recalled anyway) and not feeling in the least intoxicated on many occasions. I'm just "elsewhere" and quite aware of that being the case and able to analyse what is happening as it happens. Unfortunately I'm fairly sure that is not how it would look to anybody viewing from outside but is how it feels from the inside.
I do agree that m-holes are far more prone to turning rather dark than k-holes ever are. I don't recall ever finding a k-hole threatening but the MXE equivalent can feel far more stark, dark and somber. Also feels uncomfortably close to some place within - or at least fairly adjacanent to - an actual reality that's possibly comprehensible which I don't think k-hole stuff could ever be accused of.
To be clear, am not actually saying "wherever" that m-hole place is that I go to so often is a real place or a real thing but it don't half feel like it. Disturbingly "normal" without any of the obviously nutso freakery associated with some of the more exotic "hole" type experiences provided by other substances. I should also perhaps mention that these type of experiences only started after I'd been using MXE off and on pretty regularly since it first came on the scene, when tolerance necessitated extremely high doses by any standard. There seemed to me to be a distinct change of effect when tolerance pushed dose past certain points. The type of experiences described by many above I recall from (much) lower toleranced times but I can't really achieve similar effects now. Really does feel like some kinda line got crossed and all that cartoonish oddity got replaced but distinctly uncartoonish surreality. That'd be "surreal" in the literal sense as it does kinda feel like something that exists beneath yer everday reality rather than overlaid atop it which is how the more whizzy "hole" experiences can often feel.
Alternatively, just a different flavour of drugfukked. Interesting all the same.
) bizarre like k-holes but far more structured and lucid... at least the parts I can remember which is a fraction of the whole of the holinesses for sure. On MXE I don't really get any of the kaleidoscopic sci-fi cartoon profundoinsanity stuff that's such a feature of ketamine, rather I am (or at least at the time utterly convinced of being) physically transported to another realm. A physical place with other sentient beings of some form (although actual interactions are rare and - as far as I can recall - the details of any communications are the first thing to be lost in memory with only hazy details of situations and feelings left. A particularly striking feature is of being "me" at all times (or all recalled anyway) and not feeling in the least intoxicated on many occasions. I'm just "elsewhere" and quite aware of that being the case and able to analyse what is happening as it happens. Unfortunately I'm fairly sure that is not how it would look to anybody viewing from outside but is how it feels from the inside.I do agree that m-holes are far more prone to turning rather dark than k-holes ever are. I don't recall ever finding a k-hole threatening but the MXE equivalent can feel far more stark, dark and somber. Also feels uncomfortably close to some place within - or at least fairly adjacanent to - an actual reality that's possibly comprehensible which I don't think k-hole stuff could ever be accused of.
To be clear, am not actually saying "wherever" that m-hole place is that I go to so often is a real place or a real thing but it don't half feel like it. Disturbingly "normal" without any of the obviously nutso freakery associated with some of the more exotic "hole" type experiences provided by other substances. I should also perhaps mention that these type of experiences only started after I'd been using MXE off and on pretty regularly since it first came on the scene, when tolerance necessitated extremely high doses by any standard. There seemed to me to be a distinct change of effect when tolerance pushed dose past certain points. The type of experiences described by many above I recall from (much) lower toleranced times but I can't really achieve similar effects now. Really does feel like some kinda line got crossed and all that cartoonish oddity got replaced but distinctly uncartoonish surreality. That'd be "surreal" in the literal sense as it does kinda feel like something that exists beneath yer everday reality rather than overlaid atop it which is how the more whizzy "hole" experiences can often feel.
Alternatively, just a different flavour of drugfukked. Interesting all the same.
YMMV but m-holes are just as lovely as k ones but yeh quite a different beast. Set and setting is everything. I’ve had many m-holes of beauty because I've been able to control that environment. There's nothing to fear from a m-hole if you have that setting sorted. I've found them more 'organic' in nature' and very therapeutic.
Don't go into the fear thing...
Don't go into the fear thing...
Albion
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I've had this exact experience a couple of times on MXE. It is utterly profound. It feels like an ascension to the afterlife. The sense of universal oneness with everyone and everything sentient in this universe really is so specific, I wonder what function that emotion has in our psyche, since it is a very real thing; it exists!
BecomingJulie
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Ooh, so you're into glass blowing, then? Can I come and see your art? Fascinating stuff, glass. Could I even maybe have a go at blowing something myself?